Why DC/WB is in a lose/ lose situation; My Opinion of the Justice League; New Name for this Website

Okay, first thing first, a Justice League movie was announced but not for 2013. It didn't get a date.

@Golden
So you picked up on my frustration? This wasn't written to please anyone. I simply wanted to point out the real reason why coming to this site has been less and less enjoyable over the past year.

First of all, we are ALL comic fans. We read both Marvel and DC and in both relative companies the respective universes are shared! For DC to make movies of their CENTRAL JLA characters (ie. Batman, Superman, etc.,) and NOT have them connected because of Marvel's movies, is downright ridiculous.

What Marvel is doing is smart because they are catering to the fans and from that they know they will have their audience and a huge payday with the Avengers.

DC is allowing Hollywood big heads to run their ship and will do so like the captain of the Titanic. By not keeping the fans in mind, you not only isolate them, but you ruin your cash agenda as well. Personally, I feel that DC/WB should have told Nolan that if TDKR is his last, he is required to shoot a final scene that could tie in his Batman to a DC Universe for another director to pickup from. Synder should be told from the start that Superman must cater to a connected DC universe.

It's not about competition with Marvel/Disney because that element has ALWAYS been there! It's about catering to your core audience, giving them what they want so that you can fill those cinema seats AND DVDs later. But, to ally yourself with a director who is so arrogant as to put the company's back up against a wall like Nolan did, is downright humiliating. He has limited DC's options and in some ways pulled another Singer. Screwed the fans from getting what they want.

Either way you look at it, a JLA movie without the Nolan Batman, Synder Superman and Green Lantern WILL fail just like Superman Returns did.

And to LMFAO: I hear your point, but ultimately I think you are wrong.

I don't think you are copying Marvel if you have a shared universe you are just copying your own comics and that is the right way to make movies about comics .

First off LMAO a very well written article. I agree with some points and disagree with others. Let me elaborate:

- Totally agree with you on the whole Nolan batman issue. It's actually quite amazing that with dissipation of the awe with Ledger's Joker that people here and on other websites are voicing opinions on TDK that I had from day 1! That is NOT Batman! I am a Marvel fan and I can see that. Nolan's Batman franchise has sucked all the fantasy and mythos out of Batman leaving a fail character that get's roughed up by Rottweilers, falls out of a building and doesn't use a grapple to swing to safety, and doesn't think to go back in the building to get the Joker. People need to read a comic!!! Nolan's arrogance is also insulting! It amazes me that DC fans don't realise that he spitting on and demeaning the DC Universe when he claims that his Batman would not exist with other DC characters. When Nolan says that if Superman existed there would be no need for Batman he is saying the DC universe is silly. That is an insult to DC fans and comicbook fans on the whole.

- I think when people are criticizing DC/WB for bringing out a JLA movie 1n 2013 it's not following Marvel that they are criticizing. What they are criticizing is that this seems to be very rushed decision with no planning behind it. The Avengers has been in planning for years! Every step and link is seriously executed. The classic example of this is in Iron Man 1 when Tony Stark says that his father helped fight the Nazis and here we are getting evidence of that in CA:TFA. It shows that detailed planning for this major project has been there in details that you did not even realise. Are they doing it perfectly? No, there are a few mistakes, but a project like this has never been attempted before so some mistakes must happen. I think people, myself included, feel that rushing this out as a knee-jerk response to Marvel without the proper planning is a disaster waiting to happen.

- I think the criticisms of not tying in ZS's Superman may or may not be justified. With Marvel's plan these solo movies do a thorough introduction to each character even if they are relatively well know, e.g., HULK. I really can't comment because I don't know what they are planning. Some time ago I read that the JLA movie would not have Superman or Batman!!! Bizarre I know, but this was released by DC/WB! So this whole we get 2 Superman's may not be true. My main worry is that it will THOROUGHLY CONFUSE the general audience.

- With respect to the naming the site I have to be blunt. What you observe happens because Marvel is simply a lot more popular than DC. I'm sorry but that's the way it is. When I was young and now getting into comics the difference was obvious. I could never get into GL because weakness to the colour yellow seemed utterly stupid. I used to read some DC but then I picked up New Mutants and X-men and it was no comparison. For the majority of people Marvel has more interesting, cooler, and relatable characters, better writing, better stories, no retarded nonsense like 'retcon punches' and colour coded weaknesses, etc. etc. I'm not trying to disse DC I'm just stating facts. Marvel is more popular. DC is now catching up. And flat out what Marvel is doing with its cinematic universe is so inspiring that we Marvel fans feel truly blessed and grateful to them.

The only way it can work is if they use the people developed on Smallville and connect them to the Wonder Woman TV Series. The current movie versions were never designed to be connected.

Oh yeah when i mean originate Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman in JLA, do it like they did in the cartoon and wiht Hawkgirl, kinda show like just drop hints when someone has dialouge with her.