Why I Didn't Like the Comedy in the Justice League Trailer

Why I Didn't Like the Comedy in the Justice League Trailer

My First Article on why I did not love the comedy in the Justice League Traile

Editorial Opinion
By StarlordsDad - Jul 31, 2016 03:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Justice League

So before I start I am a new member  on this website; despite being a long time user. So, this past comic con like everyone else I saw all the trailers released, and although I loved the Doctor Strange and Wonder Woman Trailers something felt weird about the Justice League Trailer. For awhile I saw the argument on the Internet and wondered why I didn't love the trailer. (I'm not a Marvel Fanboy that hates everything DC).

And one day while watching a discussion on YouTube I realized why I didn't like it..BECAUSE BATMAN WAS MAKING ALL THE JOKES.

Lets recall one of the main complaints BvS was there wasn't enough fun and levity, so WB decided to make Justice League more fun(Which I agree with). But the problem was instead of making Batman the straight man they made him the funny man. The Problem is People LOVED BATMAN IN BVS. Batman was fine being serious, SUPERMAN needed to be more fun not Batman.

In conclusion I believe DC may ruin their perfect. Batman by giving him the positivity superman needed. Thank you for reading feel free to comment.

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BaronZemo
BaronZemo - 7/31/2016, 4:12 AM
I agree a 100%, i like that there's comedy, but make Batman tell the jokes
StarlordsDad
StarlordsDad - 7/31/2016, 4:27 AM
@BaronZemo - yeah let's hope the final movie will be different.
JonTargaryen94
JonTargaryen94 - 7/31/2016, 5:53 AM
The wittiness should come from Flash and GL. Let the seriousness come from character like Batman, Wonder Woman and Aquaman. Superman should be the leader who balances all character traits. The fun side of things should be from Cyborg, after all he is a college student and not an adult.

Ghostpointzero
Ghostpointzero - 7/31/2016, 6:30 AM
Bruce Wayne was making the Jokes not Batman. His Bruce Wayne Persona is spot on, it's when he's Batman that's it's go time.
TheDayman
TheDayman - 7/31/2016, 6:43 AM
I think the studio wanted to include jokes in the trailer, but they also didn't want to reveal too much of Flash and Cyborg. Those two probably have far more jokes than Bruce Wayne in the finished product, but the studio didn't want to show too many scenes of them in the trailer.
tonytony
tonytony - 7/31/2016, 6:57 AM
bruce wayne was making the Jokes not batman. And bruce wayne is charming and funny.
kong
kong - 7/31/2016, 9:39 AM
What joke does he make in the trailer. The talking to fish thing could maybe considered one but he's not telling jokes.

Actually, no one tells jokes on this trailer. In their world, 'I one is actively trying to be funny, it's just funny to us as an audience. Flash probably will actively tell jokes, but all of Batmans funny moments weren't intended to be funny by the character. It's only how we perceived it.

Also, this belongs in a comment section.
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 7/31/2016, 10:49 AM
Maybe this Batman has learned from his past experiences with young teammates that he needs to be less brooding and serious.

He has been doing this for 20 plus years and has hopefully learned from his past mistakes with the Bat Family.

It's time to realize this is not our Batman, this is another realities Batman. They are not making a definitive DC Universe, they are making a whole new reality.

I loved the trailer, loved Wonder Woman even more. I also really enjoyed both MoS and BvS. I don't understand the hate they get. Yes it's not what we are used to seeing in our characters but I personally think you just need to accept that this is a new take a different take on these characters.

Maybe it's because I am an Xmen fan and have come to accept due to Fox and their changes.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 7/31/2016, 12:04 PM
Now that you mention it, I completely agree with it
shadesofyellow
shadesofyellow - 7/31/2016, 4:21 PM
Bruce Wayne is making the quips, not Batman, and this isn't the finished product. I would go in depth for two of the things I said but I already see users did it before me. But this movie just wanted to hype this up and show that it's receptive. Since it's still a work in progress, it can be possible that they're fixing it right now to other gripes people have similar to yours. Let's just be optimistic and WB doesn't mess up again.
aresww3
aresww3 - 7/31/2016, 7:09 PM
JL trailer sucked and Batman and everyone was quipping. It´s like the WW trailer had jokes that were natural to the material. personally I don´t blame Zack. It´s the fans fault. BvS was unjustly ripped to shreds. It wasn´t that bad a movie and certainly was ambitious. Superman needed changing but generally a good movie. But we complained and complained and complained. Now we have Bats and WW making jokes, we asked for it.
TomSolo
TomSolo - 8/1/2016, 1:39 AM
@aresww3 - I blame WB and DC for not having a clear and definitive model for the DCCU from day 1. I mean, that seemed to be the goal from day 1. They hired Zach Snyder. While his movies are visually stunning, I feel his best work is done when he adapts a completely formed story into a film, like Watchmen or 300. When he is let loose, it's a mixed bag.

Now they are trying to change course, which I get, but something about this trailer did not seem to fit with where we left off at the end of BvS.

Batman/Bruce Wayne was a very damaged and broken person. And I get that Superman's sacrifice and death gave him a new perspective, but it just seems, from this very early trailer, that he has done a complete 180. It felt jarring.

And the trailer itself felt like this was a completely different take on the characters and tone from BvS. Having no explanation to justify these changes makes for a confused viewer.

Now, I hate to judge something so early, and I completely did just that. I don't feel like this movie is going to be crap, as we have a lot of time before we see the final product. Hopefully they now have a total vision for the future. I really want this to be great.
aresww3
aresww3 - 8/1/2016, 5:38 AM
@TomSolo - It's got a character named Stepenwolf as the villain, of course it's not going to be great. Look I think Zack made some weird choices for the movie, but the sheer hate that it got was so wildly off base I just don't get iT. Now thanks to that reception we're getting superfriends. If people were more reasoned about the critique we may well have got a vastly improved product in JL. As it stands we have a director who is being forced to compromise his vision and turn in some comedy act.

I bet now, right [frick]ing now, Affleck is going to take over from George as the most reviled Batman of all time, once we see him cracking jokes every 5 mins. All the good will probably likely to come from the ww film will be completely done away with as well. Jarring is an understatement.
TomSolo
TomSolo - 8/1/2016, 6:32 AM
@aresww3 - I get what your saying, and agree with some of it. The hate for Mister Snyder, and anyone involved in filmmaking that has disappointed a part of the fanbase for that matter, does not deserve the hate. And it is a shame that the studios are so quick to possibly go in the complete opposite direction sometimes and neuter a vision.

Two things though, and I mean this with sincerity and without condescension:

1). Snyder's vision and execution left a lot to be desired by some fans of the comics and film in general. I'm not saying these views were unanimous nor were they all correct. I'm just saying that I believe that somewhere in BvS was the potential for a great film, and for whatever reason, there were a lot of folks who did not feel that potential was realized. I don't know who's to blame, and I'm sure it wasn't just one person or party involved.

2). Judging a film based solely off of one very early trailer and assuming it is going to be crap is really jumping the gun. Yes, many of us were disappointed by the trailer, but many of us were also disappointed with early castings of Heath Ledger as the Joker, Michael Keaton as the Batman and Halle Berry as Catwoman. And we were pretty wrong on all of those.

Wait... We were right about Halle Berry. :)
aresww3
aresww3 - 8/1/2016, 11:14 AM
@TomSolo - agree with everything you said. I think the massive flaw in BvS which is way to focused on is the portrayal of Superman and Lex Luthor. (I actually think Batman´s or Murder Man´s portrayal was pretty off to, however I think people could see and appreciate more how Snyder was trying to deconstruct the character bc we are now so familiar with him) The problem with Superman is before Snyder could deconstruct his whole mythos, he need to establish what Superman stands for to this generation who aren´t as familiar with the older movies. I mean it would have been like if the evil superman in Superman 3 or 4 (can´t remember) was how Donner portrayed him in the first movie. People would have gone ape shit. with Lex I actually feel bad for Jessie, he didn´t do a bad job, and if he had have been cold calculating like in some of the comics he would have been too much like Ben´s Batman. They needed to differentiate this Lex. Going for a young genius wasn´t a bad idea, but they should have known with Jessie and his strange mannerisms there was going to be backlash against the portrayal. But all in all I think personally Jess out did himself and it is purely Zack´s fault for not directing him properly or quite simply not picking another actor like Jake Gyllenhaul who wouldn´t have been as goofy and could have been a nice balance between the comic version of Lex and something entirely new.

Also I think this Stepanwolf idea is so [frick]ing dumb I can´t believe its actually happening. This should have been braniacs movie. Simple as. Then use Darkseid.

So while it is true a trailer can´t tell us everything, I am not holding out hope for this one. sorry. Not entirely Zack´s fault, but he made it so there was so much backlash from his bizarre casting, his absolutely moronic take on superman and that god awful Man Of Steel movie he made that I think a lot of people went into B v S wanting to hate it and decided to destroy it critically even though it wasn´t half as bad as people are making out. No one wants to admit they´re wrong. And I was one of the biggest haters. The only casting I liked for instance Gal and Irons.
TomSolo
TomSolo - 8/1/2016, 3:30 PM
@aresww3 - I was reading your response, and it made me think of a few things. So Snyder really did sort of decide to sort of deconstruct Lex, Batman and Superman. The main villain and the two main heroes. 3 of the most recognizable characters by the general public in comicbook history in 1 film for the first time together and he decides to do a different take on all 3.

Look, this may have worked and not been shit on by so many people if this were just going to be a trilogy of films set in their own continuity. I think people gave Nolan a pass for all the things he did that were "out of the box", so to speak, because they knew he wasn't going to be making Batman films for the next 20 years, and most people assumed his films were not going to jumpstart a DCCU.

And so you have my issue with the 2 and soon to be 3 Zach Snyder DCCU films. He may have had a vision, but it seemed from at least after MoS was released that WB and DC wanted that film to be the first in the DCCU. So they went on damage control because some folks weren't happy with MoS. Now you know Snyder probably had his idea where he wanted film 2 to go, and then WB and DC now had this shared universe thing in mind, and rather than do an Edgar Wright and step away because his vision was no longer possible, he hung in there and made BvS.

Again, I don't know who is at fault for he flaws of BvS. The movie is not terrible, it just could have been a lot better. But to be only the second movie that is trying to establish a huge film franchise, I personally don't think making Superman, Batman and Lex so different was a good idea. That should have come down the road.
ALF9001
ALF9001 - 8/3/2016, 11:31 PM
i just wish that Snyder hadn't used the version of Aquaman who's a good growly secondary character at best. He should've just copied and pasted his personality from Throne of Atlantis, not from Game of Thrones.
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