Is The WGA Strike Nearing Its End? AMPTP Agrees To Meet On Friday

Is The WGA Strike Nearing Its End? AMPTP Agrees To Meet On Friday

It looks as if the AMPTP is finally ready to negotiate, as the fall TV season appears to be in jeopardy if a deal can't be reached before Labor Day.

By MarkJulian - Aug 02, 2023 04:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Studios
Source: Vanity Fair

After a 90+ day stalemate that began on May 2, 2023, the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers (AMPTP) has finally agreed to return to the negotiation table with the Writers Guild of America (WGA).   AMPTP President Carol Lombardini has agreed to meet with WGA leadership this Friday.

Guestimates from Hollywood insiders have wagered that the WGA strike could end as soon as this fall or last well into 2024.  Renewed talks by the two parties clearly favor bets placed on the former.

If the strike lasts through Labor Day, it threatens the start of the fall TV season and the all-important ad revenue that studios require to appease investors and remain afloat.  On the film side, a continued strike will push back big-budget tentpole films and wreak havoc on awards season. 

The Primetime Emmy Awards, originally scheduled for September 18, have been delayed indefinitely. And fall is typically when the Oscar campaign season starts in earnest.

However, following a three-month work stoppage, there's renewed optimism that a deal for Hollywood writers could soon be hashed out and writers can return to work.

Writers are asking for regulations on AI script writing, an increase in residual pay, and increased penalties for late payment, among other items. The discussion this Friday will be, "centered on creating committees to examine the issues," per Deadline.

With many of the high-profile studios that make up the AMPTP in need of revenue to offset large startup costs stemming from the launch of new streaming platforms, a prolonged strike could prove disastrous. 

In an email to its 11,000 members, the WGA wrote, "We’ll be back in communication with you sometime after the meeting with further information. As we’ve said before, be wary of rumors. Whenever there is important news to share, you will hear it directly from us."

Conversely, there's been no such peace offering made to the Screen Actors Guild – American Federation of Television and Radio Artists  (SAG-AFTRA).

 While the WGA strike started back in May, the actors didn't follow suit with their own strike until July 14, 2023. 

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AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 8/2/2023, 5:11 PM
This is a strategy being used against the actors.


Stile a deal with one so you can blame the other group for why things aren't moving forward.😐



ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 8/2/2023, 6:01 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - yeah they tried this with the directors and actors against the writers and the actors said [frick] it we with them lll
KaptainKhaos
KaptainKhaos - 8/2/2023, 5:26 PM
Keep the strike going and stick it to the "investors"

Actors and Writers will not be replaced by ai
JDL
JDL - 8/2/2023, 7:39 PM
@KaptainKhaos - No investors = nothing gets filmed.

As for AI I don't see it being legally stoppable on the writing part of it or for background actors on the performance side. Other actors however they should be able to stop being exploited.
FriendoGhus
FriendoGhus - 8/3/2023, 12:36 AM
@JDL - only true for big budget nonsense which is often trash these days, these people could easily self produce or crowdfund smaller, better written films if they really wanted to.
IvanBadski
IvanBadski - 8/3/2023, 3:41 AM
@KaptainKhaos -
JDL
JDL - 8/3/2023, 5:56 AM
@FriendoGhus - WTH ? Theaters can't survive without big budget blockbusters. People have moved away from theaters for the last 70 years and no one with half a brain thinks that it's going to get much better.
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 8/2/2023, 5:31 PM
Stephen Amell won! 🫠
r0njeremy
r0njeremy - 8/3/2023, 2:07 AM
@EskimoJ - stephan amell didnt win dumbass , hes against the strike and with bob sleazeball igar type of upper management
JDL
JDL - 8/3/2023, 6:21 AM
@r0njeremy - I don't read Amell that way. It read to me that he doesn't think that for the actors a strike will work this time and that it is unfair to to most of the actors and all of the below the line people.
MaxPaint
MaxPaint - 8/2/2023, 5:37 PM
Unlikely, but hopefully everything gets sorted out by this year's end.
JDL
JDL - 8/3/2023, 6:23 AM
@MaxPaint - If this thing goes on that long the two unions will implode.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 8/2/2023, 6:17 PM
I hope they strike long enough to destroy the industry. Serves them right.
marvel72
marvel72 - 8/2/2023, 6:21 PM
@TyrantBossMedia -

dragon316
dragon316 - 8/2/2023, 7:28 PM
Near end meeting this Friday but strike could end almost next year setup this meeting be fake listen what they say and stay where there at not to treat them fair
DocSpock
DocSpock - 8/2/2023, 7:43 PM


And at the end, the real winners will be the rich fatcat union management & their lawyers. They pretend to be in business to help their members but throw them out on their ear if they miss one union dues payment. Unions are businesses whose job is to make money. 80% of them don't give a damn about their members.

SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 8/2/2023, 9:38 PM
Sounds like the Shareholders are concerned that this strike will hurt their Quarterly Earnings reports. Maybe that should have been on their mind when they were so confident that once the writers and actors starve and lose their homes they would bend the knee.
r0njeremy
r0njeremy - 8/3/2023, 2:10 AM
hopefully the actors get there money and box that a,i, and residual pay rights to there likeness , but f*ck those fat cats like bob igar and hollywood studio's .''
Scarilian
Scarilian - 8/3/2023, 5:08 AM
• Actors have been fairly vile to the general population
• Writers have primarily produced subpar material for the last few years
• Media corporations have been pushing low quality social and political messaging as opposed to telling high quality stories

I'd hope these strike go on longer, because at the moment 'Hollywood' expects them to fold and give in before Fall. In which case we'll be back to the endless waves of sludge, low quality media shoved out in vast quantities.

If they can keep striking till around February 2024 they have a higher chance at getting the deals they desire as it'll have negatively impacted 'Hollywoods' year end - hitting them hard. It'll also enable 2024 to be a year of primarily independent media - which we desperately need in the face of the current sludge being made.

If the strike lasts long enough, we may see the rise of more Youtubers and independent creators following Markiplier and Rippaverse, creating content in the forms of films, comics and other story telling methods. I'd much rather see that than any of the corporate sludge.
JDL
JDL - 8/3/2023, 6:57 AM
@Scarilian - That is a god-awful future you seem to want.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 8/4/2023, 9:15 AM
@JDL -
I think that statement just demonstrates how much you are tied to corporatism and brand loyalty.
JDL
JDL - 8/4/2023, 11:29 AM
@Scarilian - None of what I posted should lead anyone to what you replied. Of course I'm an accountant and I can see things you may not, such as that large forthcoming job losses due to less ad revenues are unavoidable.

Beyond that if the strike lasts past November (with most of the effects limited to TV, cable, and streaming) Linear TV will be limited to 2 hours a night and there will be a lot of reality crap. Job losses for scripted shows will be massive and bloody. It is very unlikely imo the studio's will ever get that hour back. If the strike lasts past the first of the year I would expect lawsuits and forced votes on the last AMPTP offer and it be accepted. Why so ? Because a LOT of people will realise that their dreams of making it in the business are gone and this is one of their last chances at getting back at leadership.






Scarilian
Scarilian - 8/11/2023, 3:58 PM
@JDL -
You may be an accountant, but you seem to not understand that it's exactly what studios want, enabling them to terminate long-term contracts under force majeure. A lot of these contracts were drafted pre-Covid when the films were making a lot more and the market was growing. We are now seeing a rapidly contracting market and this gives studios an out, a method of letting go of workers without directly firing them, as its on the workers for striking long enough for the force majeure clauses to activate. Not only does it save studios millions, it also actively removes a lot of media they wanted to cancel and now can just blame it on the writers rather than lack of interest in specific projects.

The studios need to trim the fat and in an age of advancing technology that fat is writers and actors, especially seeing as with the severe cost of living crisis and global issues there's zero chance that it'd be sustainable financially.

JDL
JDL - 8/11/2023, 6:43 PM
@Scarilian - Huh ? What gives you to think I don't get what studios are after ? Your last set of points are good and I agree with what you just posted 100%. Imo the WGA negotiated trying to save jobs that the studios don't want or need and to force more profit sharing sharing which, legally, they can't strike over.

If the WGA had beem more realistic in their demands I think they could have saved more.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 8/11/2023, 7:35 PM
@JDL -
"What gives you to think I don't get what studios are after?"

I'm mostly viewing it that way as the following concept. If the studios know they no longer need actors, no longer need writers and no longer need physical sets then they can downsize massively.

The WGA and the SAG are both playing into the studios hands, those involved are shooting themselves in the foot by helping studios demonstrate why the previous system is no longer sustainable.

All it takes is a singular A.I. generated show or film to be released during these strikes and they'll have demonstrated that writers and actors are no longer needed.

The studios have zero motivation to agree to the demands of the actors or writers, this is a purge of as many as possible.
JDL
JDL - 8/12/2023, 3:14 AM
@Scarilian - OK. I'm not sure how big a deal AI is in all this. My impression is that it's Apocalypse Now for the unions and not that for the studios other than they do not want a precedent set. My read is that irrespective of AI that they simply want the unions to recognize the party is over. There will be far fewer shows and staffing will be reduced because of cord cutting and the reduction in ad revenue.
cham2119
cham2119 - 8/3/2023, 7:29 AM
Man everytime i look at the comments section for a strike article it becomes all the more apparent how little most of you know about how this business is run. Nerds really are the worst.
Deadinside
Deadinside - 8/3/2023, 10:47 AM
@cham2119 - Nerdsropes are awesome!
Or, do you prefer Runts...?
☮😁
cham2119
cham2119 - 8/3/2023, 12:34 PM
@Deadinside - not gonna lie I’m a nerds rope guy myself but I’ll never say no to a tropical flavored runt🤣
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