Marvel Studios Executive Explains What They've Learned From Recent Failings And How It Will Change TV Shows

Marvel Studios Executive Explains What They've Learned From Recent Failings And How It Will Change TV Shows

Marvel Studios' Brad Winderbaum has weighed in on what the company's executives have learned from the MCU's recent missteps and explains how it's changing their approach to small screen storytelling...

By JoshWilding - Jan 05, 2024 07:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Studios
Source: ComicBook.com

Marvel Studios has faced more than its fair share of challenges since Avengers: Endgame and Spider-Man: Far From Home were released. A global pandemic, a shift into streaming, and a push from Disney to produce more content than ever before have all led to a noticeable dip in quality and box office takings.

The plan now is to right the ship, hence why we've seen multiple movies and TV shows delayed and others - like Captain America: Brave New World and Daredevil: Born Again - taken back to the drawing board. 

Talking to ComicBook.com about the upcoming release of Echo, Marvel Studios Head of Streaming, Television, and Animation Brad Winderbaum addressed how the MCU is learning from its recent missteps and what will change moving forward. 

"We've learned a lot," he admitted. "We produced a lot of content very quickly, and we're primarily a filmmaking company. So, you can see that our first round of shows have a very movie-like structure: they arc-out the characters by the end; they feel like a standalone limited series."

Moving forward, our content is going to feel a lot more like television," Winderbaum added. "It kind of drives toward the horizon; drives towards the future, and keeps people engaged for longer periods of time, in the more leaned-back setting of your living room. To set it apart, frankly, from the big, cinematic event experiences in the movie theater." 

This sounds like the best possible approach and is why Marvel Studios now plans to produce TV shows in a more traditional manner with series bibles and showrunners. 

Up until recently, they've been shot like movies with reshoots later used to fix what wasn't working. That's neither cost-effective nor something which works for episodic storytelling, hence why more than a few MCU TV shows have underwhelmed fans (Secret Invasion is the most recent example). 

It's probably going to take Kevin Feige a while to get this franchise back on the right track; 2024 will see the release of only Deadpool 3 in theaters and Echo and Agatha All Along on Disney+. 

Disney CEO Bob Iger also appears to be taking a hands-on approach to fixing Marvel Studios' output. Last year, he criticised Bob Chapek's handling of Disney's franchises when he said, "I think we’ve conditioned the audience to expect that these films will be on streaming platforms relatively quickly and that the experience of accessing them and watching them in the home is better than it ever was."

It's a valid point. After all, why go and watch The Marvels in theaters when the MCU's movies so quickly arrive on streaming and Ms. Marvel is right there to watch for free?

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lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 1/5/2024, 7:50 AM
Am I missing something? Why can't I find Spiderman in the article pic? Is it a rights thing with Sony?
Taonrey
Taonrey - 1/5/2024, 7:51 AM
@lazlodaytona - I mean it's not even the full picture
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 1/5/2024, 7:52 AM
@Taonrey - oh. Oops. My bad
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 1/5/2024, 8:00 AM
@lazlodaytona - because it’s shitty fan art
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 1/5/2024, 7:52 AM
They have learnt to double down on their mission
bobevanz
bobevanz - 1/5/2024, 10:50 AM
@HeWhoBeatsDames - yeah this is generic boiler plate, I'd rather hear this from Feige
Usernametaken
Usernametaken - 1/5/2024, 7:54 AM
I love how they are finally voicing issues that everybody have known for months and years.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/5/2024, 8:01 AM
Make Mine Far From Dead Marvel Studios. Bring on 2024 and Beyond.

BobbyDrake
BobbyDrake - 1/5/2024, 8:31 AM
@AllsGood - I like how you’re mocking their tagline. Really makes it seem like they’re not all that far from actually being dead. Good one!!!
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 1/5/2024, 8:46 AM
@AllsGood - 2024 is going to be a blast!

Oh wait…
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/5/2024, 8:52 AM
@JustAWaffle - Lot going on in the movie and television business in 2024.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 1/5/2024, 9:52 AM
@AllsGood - How many marvel movies again?
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/5/2024, 10:04 AM
@JustAWaffle - Marvel just 1 but 4 movies are coming in 2025. Sony has 3 comic book movies, DC 1.
Origame
Origame - 1/5/2024, 11:21 AM
@BobbyDrake - thats cute. You think he's mocking them 🤣
BobbyDrake
BobbyDrake - 1/5/2024, 1:21 PM
@Origame - Nah!!! 😜
McMurdo
McMurdo - 1/5/2024, 2:26 PM
@AllsGood - rent free
Amino
Amino - 1/5/2024, 8:01 AM
I'm not sure, "less cinematic" is the best takeaway from their streaming/television shortcomings.

I'd argue two of their successes, Wandavision and Loki, both felt cinematic in nature. Compared to, say, She-Hulk...which was the worst of the bunch, yet it had the exact type of structure they think will solve their problems moving forward. I just don't get it.


Make. Better. Stuff.


That's it. That should've been the takeaway. *shrug
ImBatman4realz
ImBatman4realz - 1/5/2024, 8:08 AM
@Amino - my thoughts exactly. Their 2 best shows were cinematic.

Their gameplan moving forward sounds that the She-Hulk garbage. I don’t think they realize their issues after all.
Taonrey
Taonrey - 1/5/2024, 8:38 AM
@Amino - exactly! Making limited series also isn't the issue. hBI has thrived off limited series.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 1/5/2024, 1:05 PM
@Amino - "make better stuff" is incredibly generic feedback though isn't it? I mean no one sets out to make a bad show or film. It's the complexities of making something good that is why so few succeed at it. Every filmmaker has made some duds. No one would say Speilberg isn't talented because he made 1941 for example. The issue I have is that people write off creatives so fast for a mess up. If Speilberg was written off then we'd have lost an incredible talent and fans do that ALL THE TIME!

Everyone wants to make great content.
Amino
Amino - 1/5/2024, 4:17 PM
@Itwasme - Normally, yes. It would be a generic statement. But in this specific case, that simply IS what it boils down to.

They've settled/focused on becoming a content factory instead of caring about making better stories. i.e. "better stuff".
Itwasme
Itwasme - 1/5/2024, 4:20 PM
@Amino - is that the case for every studio though? I mean every single studio wants to put out incredibly good films, but we all know most of the time they don't. Marvel and Pixar's previous consistency was not normal. If there was an automatic formula for success then everyone would be doing it all the time.
Spike101
Spike101 - 1/5/2024, 5:24 PM
@Amino - agreed. To me that statement suggests they have learnt absolutely nothing as to what the problems are with their recent content.

I would suggest they greatly improve the writing and ditch the goofy teen aspect of the recent stuff. And stop trying to be diverse and inclusive at the expense of the wonderful legacy characters that they are privileged to be afforded to work with.
Origame
Origame - 1/5/2024, 8:03 AM
It really doesn't matter the structure if the quality is sh!t. You say you're a film making company, but your films have been bad too.

No, the problem is what iger claimed was the issue, that you weren't looking at these projects as entertainment first.

But then again, iger said this then allowed an activist to helm the next star wars movie, so clearly all this is just talk.
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 1/5/2024, 8:34 AM
@Origame - Yeah this article should have been titled "Marvel Has Learned Nothing"
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/5/2024, 8:45 AM
@Origame - That Star Wars movie hasn't come out yet. So on the one hand it could be good and on the other it might not come out at all.

Truth is, we haven't seen the effects of Iger's return yet. Save for maybe those rumors of Cap 4 being Avengers 4.5.
Origame
Origame - 1/5/2024, 9:29 AM
@TheFinestSmack - pretty much.
Origame
Origame - 1/5/2024, 9:31 AM
@ObserverIO - this movie with an activist director only talking about her race and gender was announced after he made his statement.

And we've seen plenty of iger.
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