Marvel Studios' Kevin Feige Was Almost Fired Back In 2015 Before Bob Iger Stepped In

Marvel Studios' Kevin Feige Was Almost Fired Back In 2015 Before Bob Iger Stepped In

We knew that Kevin Feige and former Marvel CEO Ike Perlmutter weren't exactly on the best of terms, but Disney's Bob Iger has now revealed that Feige almost lost his job thanks to Perlmutter's meddling.

By MarkCassidy - Feb 09, 2023 12:02 PM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Studios

The bad blood between current Marvel Studios boss Kevin Feige and former Marvel Entertainment CEO Ike Perlmutter is well documented, but it's now come to light that the latter attempted to take drastic measures to remove his rival from a prominent position of power.

The Marvel Cinematic Universe is inarguably one of, if not the most lucrative and well-known movie franchises of all time, and a large part of that success is down to Feige. However, the MCU would have been a very different beast altogether if Perlmutter had his way.

The two execs clashed constantly, and newly-reinstated Disney CEO Bob Iger has now revealed that Perlmutter was preparing to fire Feige until he stepped in. Apparently, Iger's "meddling made Perlmutter unhappy — an unhappiness that exists today."

"I knew I had to intervene, and so in May 2015, I made the decision to split Marvel’s movie-making unit off from the rest of Marvel and bring it under Alan Horn and the Walt Disney Studios," Iger told CNBC. "Kevin would now report directly to Alan, and would benefit from his experience, and the tensions that had built up between him and the New York office would be alleviated.”

We're not exactly sure whether the tension arose from Feige trying to assert more control over the comics side of things or Perlmutter attempting to stick his oar in on the MCU, but we're sure most fans will be pleased that things worked out in Feige's favor.

The MCU's Phase 5 officially gets underway with Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania next week.

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Dotanuki
Dotanuki - 2/9/2023, 12:37 PM
What a shitheel Perlmutter is. Not just for this incident.
Mugens
Mugens - 2/9/2023, 12:39 PM
@Dotanuki - You are being way to nice to Ike...
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 2/9/2023, 1:06 PM
@Dotanuki - Shitheel? Nah. That's too good. Come on CBM, we can do better than that.
19Batman84
19Batman84 - 2/9/2023, 1:13 PM
@DarthOmega - i believe the word he as looking for was C U N T
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 2/9/2023, 1:21 PM
@19Batman84 - Yeah, but [foo foo]s can be awesome in the right context.

We can do better than that.
SauronthePower
SauronthePower - 2/9/2023, 1:23 PM
@19Batman84 - I feel that T-W-U-N-T represents SO much more of the escalatory descriptor that you are seeking
ElvenKingSlayer
ElvenKingSlayer - 2/9/2023, 1:24 PM
@19Batman84 - Nah I love that how about D I C K
19Batman84
19Batman84 - 2/9/2023, 2:29 PM
@SauronthePower - love it lol
Goldboink
Goldboink - 2/9/2023, 6:24 PM
@Dotanuki -
His life is a net negative
Goldboink
Goldboink - 2/9/2023, 6:25 PM
@SauronthePower -

Twunt, I love it
StSteven
StSteven - 2/9/2023, 6:45 PM
@Dotanuki - Gentlemen (and gentlewomen)... I believe the honorable Clark W. Griswold has already articulated how he feels about Ike and what he (and likely the rest of us) would do if he were to ever meet him face to face when he said "And I want to look him straight in the eye, and I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey shit he is! Hallelujah! Holy shit!"

'Nuff said.
Deadinside
Deadinside - 2/10/2023, 9:31 AM
@StSteven - In the words of Hanover Fiste, "Hangings too good for him! Burnings too good for him! He should be torn into itsy bitsy pieces and buried alive...!"
StSteven
StSteven - 2/10/2023, 2:54 PM
@Deadinside - Or even worse (and Christ I can't believe I'm even going to say this): he should be sentenced to go work for Avi Arad on the SPUMC at Sony! There, I said it (well, I typed it - I'm pretty sure that if you speak those words out loud it's like summoning Beetlejuice except Avi appears and follows you around 24/7 just pitching really bad Spider-Man adjacent movie ideas for all eternity and you can't get rid of him an only you can see and hear him "How about this one: instead of Peter Parker we have a character who's not actually PP named "Peter Parquet" and he's French, right? So we call him "Spider-Homme" and it takes place in Paris (which we'll film in Jersey because it's A LOT cheaper and I don't think anyone will notice the difference). ANYHOW, French Peter is a pastry chef, right? Stick with me here. Ha! See what I did there? Stick with me! Wait - there we go: he's a pastry chef who gets bitten by a radioactive sticky bun that he accidentally put inside a nuclear accelerator instead of his oven because they right next to each other and look almost identical and he was distracted when he saw the dark chocolate frosting on one of his cakes slide off the cake and across the counter which, stick with me here (Ha! I love it!) is, wait for it... wait for it... how we introduce his arch-enemy... wait for it... "Le Venin"! Ha! Pure Box Office gold right there! OR, how about we do a movie like "3 Men and a Baby" (because EVERYONE LOVED that movie, but we gender-swap it and it's now "3 Women and a Spider-Baby"? And instead of him throwing up all over the women like little babies do, he just shoots webbing all over the place because, wait for it... wait for it... we're going back to organic web shooters folks! That's right! OR what about..."

If you are even more dead inside after reading that, I apologize. Just be glad it's not you. I made the mistake of proof reading this post out loud, and, well, let's just say I wasn't making that shit up, I was transcribing. *sigh*.

"OR, how about..."
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 2/9/2023, 12:38 PM
Firing wasn’t the answer but having Perlmutter as an alternate voice was a good thing for Marvel Studios.

The MCU was incredibly tightly knit in Phase 1. They seemed to actually have a plan like Gunn claims to have for the DCU.
Then after Ant-Man everything god a bit looser.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 2/9/2023, 12:42 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - The problem is the one who is second in command after Feige, who is taking a lot more decisions since Endgame.
DianaGohan
DianaGohan - 2/9/2023, 1:16 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - Yeah you wouldn't say that if you know the racist sexist, narrow minded things that dick head wanted. Furthermore Phase 1 wasn't "tightly knit" at all. Hell the original plan was to have an Ant Man movie but that got super sidelined for years and then they rushed Iron man 2 to theaters which got a lot of bad traction and honestly though Thor and Captain America did decently it was only the mega success of Avengers that made people see the phase and idea as solid.

In fact I'd argue after Ant Man they really kicked up a notch as phrase 3 is eaisly the best phase of the MCU. Phase 4 yeah is a down turn but it's still right after the Infinity Saga and building up the next saga so I'm willing to cut them a break for that.
KelvTwelve
KelvTwelve - 2/9/2023, 1:51 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - Phase 3 was largely better than Phase 2 though. The relationship with Perlmutter and the Marvel creative board ruined Age of Ultron and nearly killed Civil War. Civil War is the direct result of cutting ties with Perlmutter.

Phase 4 is a different beast entirely, and was likely going to happen no matter what. It would be extremely hard for ANYONE to continue a cinematic universe after a movie called ENDGAME.

Still I think the criticisms of the universe not having a plan is insanely short sighted if you're not watching everything that comes out. The Multiverse angle was obvious from the start, and you clearly see them weaving all the members of the Young Avengers and Thunderbolts. The problem is that there's just too much stuff coming out all at once. If the pandemic had never happened, maybe it might be better, but the watch time of Phase 4 almost, or does beat, the watch time of the entire Infinity Saga.
dmac3232
dmac3232 - 2/9/2023, 2:07 PM
@DianaGohan - “Yeah you wouldn't say that if you know the racist sexist, narrow minded things that dick head wanted.”

Those are actually positive traits for Tyrant, so you’re talking to the wrong dude.
nhoj3
nhoj3 - 2/9/2023, 2:30 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Perlmutter and the Creative Committee in NY claimed that the fans "didn't want to see heroes fighting each other" and wanted the end of Civil War changed so that Cap and Tony teamed up to fight 5 Super Soldiers instead. It got to the point where the Russo's nearly left the project if Marvel Studios caved into the Committee's demands.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 2/9/2023, 2:34 PM
@DianaGohan - For years I have been hearing those accusations about Perlmutter from the angry, professionally offended on this site, but I have yet to hear any examples or see any proof of what he wanted.

It's very easy to make blanket accusations and go overboard, which is common for this site.
That is why I don't trust it when the angry just cast aspersions.

And you are oblivious if you don't see how tightly knit Phase 1 really was.
I'm not talking about action set pieces and digital effects. I am talking about STORY and Character development.
Phase 1 excelled in that and all were integrated.
But based on your first paragraph, that pretty much nullifies what I imagine to be any kind of intellectual discussion on this with you.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 2/9/2023, 2:34 PM
@dmac3232 - Aren't you adorable.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 2/9/2023, 2:39 PM
@nhoj3 - You guys see everything in such black a white terms. Opposing opinion is good when it comes to creativity.
Case in point. Mel Brooks was making Young Frankenstein. Gene Wilder, who wrote it, wanted the song and dance number included.
Mel Brooks said "No"
Gene Wilder got angry and fought for that number explaining its importance.
Mel Brooks said, "Good. You can have the number. I just wanted to see how hard you would fight for it."

It's not black and white. It is opposing opinions which are very good for creativity.
The more resolved you are to defend your point the more convincing you can be in favor of your argument and getting what you want.

But you guys here don't understand that because for most of you here it's group consensus and group think All must think the way you do or it's name calling and ad hominem attacks.

TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 2/9/2023, 2:44 PM
@KelvTwelve - See and while I liked Civil War, I think they screwed up the story. Civil War should have been a monumental chapter in the MCU. Instead they made it a one-off movie that was quickly resolved by Infinity War.

Ultron was not good, but I blame that more on Whedon.

The stuff coming out all at once is because Marvel is getting greedy and feeling too confident.
They think they can release anything now and people will just want to see it.
You still have to have a good story and strong character development. Phase 4 does not have that.

I also have read that Feige was planning to go Galactic in Phase 4 but then Gunn was fired and went to DC to do The Suicide Squad. Gunn was supposed to spearhead the Galactic with Feige.
So they moved to the Multiverse and rushed into something that they clearly needed to lay out ahead of time.
Corruptor
Corruptor - 2/9/2023, 6:14 PM
@nhoj3 - I don't want to see that, didn't like it in comics, don't like it on screen, seems a waste of time. It's like having Han and Luke having a big fight when they could be going after Vader instead, much more satisfying. Make an exception for Hulk because he's dumb enough to fight the good guys as well as the bad.
nhoj3
nhoj3 - 2/9/2023, 7:07 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - Believe it or not, I agree with you on the importance of opposing opinions. I just believe that you’re WAY off base painting Perlmutter (or the Creative Committee as a whole) as a positive force.

You used George Lucas as an example of a singular voice and again I completely agree how detrimental that was to the Prequel trilogy. Marvel Studios is NOT that. There is no such thing as a lone writer/director and MANY directors and actors have gone on record about how collaborative Marvel is.
DianaGohan
DianaGohan - 2/9/2023, 7:22 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - Uh at this point they have written literal BOOKS and had massive behind the scenes leaks about how awful Perlmutter was so I have no idea why you're trying to defend him... unless you know you're a terrible racist dumbass piece of shit who likes defending other racist dumbass pieces of shit which based on what literally everyone else says and what you've shown obviously must be the case.

Also everyone from Feige and various others who actually WORKED on the movies have admitted how a lot of the details on Phase 1 were made on the cuff and the only definite plan they had were making certain movies to make an Avengers movie. And it was only bringing in talented teams that really gelled did the characters and stories come together but they did wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more in phase 3 that were able to juggle together not only bigger stakes but also more characters and storylines and have a satisfying conclusion that felt liked it mattered more then phase 1.

Though yeah based on how you're still trying to defend your ridiculous inane point it's clear just expecting you to comprehend anyone's words other then your own yammering is too much. It's clear you don't get you failed this argument because your moronic point wasn't even well debated and you suck so... go slam yourself against a brick and die.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 2/9/2023, 7:43 PM
@DianaGohan - As I said, your vitriol and name calling and attempted insults are wasted on me.
I welcome the poison of this site as I have for a decade, and you and yours never disappoint.

Your anger only invalidates your further.
And it makes it all the more clear that my point goes right over your head.
Others get it…but clearly you are intellectually incapable of doing so.

So easy.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 2/9/2023, 12:41 PM
Not a fan of Feige, but Perlmutter...the guy who keot blocking any proyect with a female lead, refused to even have a female villain, wanted to scrap Star Lord having a walkman because it was "dumb", and of course, the infamous "lets replace Howard with Cheaddle, no one will notice".
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