EDITORIAL: Making A Successful STAR WARS Movie

EDITORIAL: Making A Successful STAR WARS Movie

Continuing on from last week’s editorial and on the back of the confirmation that Episode VII will begin production early next year, let’s again take some time to look at what would make a successful Star Wars film. Find out more and share your thoughts after the jump!

Editorial Opinion
By MrSundayMovies - Jun 08, 2013 06:06 PM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: youtube.com/mrsundaytosunday



Although not necessarily required, you might want to check out the first editorial on this very topic here.



Watch the embedded video above for a comprehensive look at making a not terrible Star Wars film or conversely read the transcribed article beneath. The video's better though. Probably.

Focus On A New Cast
The Star Trek reboot worked for a number of reasons, one of which being it made a conscious shift towards using a younger cast. It still however tied itself in with the original crew and paid respect to the characters themselves by being mostly true to who they were. Star Wars could learn something from this. I’m not talking about making it a younger, sexier more edgy cast, that would be a horrible mistake, I’m talking about creating some new and interesting characters worthy of taking on the mantel from the original team. Unfortunately these actors are getting older which means they are incapable of doing the things they used to and it would be unrealistic to fabricate scenario’s which demonstrates them being as spry as they were in their 20’s and 30’s. Even Luke, a Jedi, would slow down with time as seen in Obi Wan and Yoda. But not Dooku for some reason, even though Fred Flinstone brought his car second hand from Christopher Lee.

Bring Back The Original Cast
This isn’t to say the original cast shouldn’t be included, they absolutely should be, it would be a tragedy if they weren’t but they should take on more secondary roles. Luke and Leia could be Jedi council members and Han could be a senator or something. That’s a terrible idea I know but I like the idea of a seventy year old Han Solo heckling parliament like one of those old guys from The Muppets. Additionally just because someone’s alive or that character appeared in the other movies doesn’t mean they have to come back. But you know who they should definitely bring back? Admiral Akbar, get him on board. I love everything about him, I love his wierdy fish head, I love his catch phrase and I love the way he says magnitude. Bring him back.

Be Smart About Bringing Characters Back
Contradictory to that you CAN bring back anyone if it makes sense in the context of the story. There was a rumour floating around earlier this year that Darth Vader would make reappearance in some form in the new trilogy. Upon initial thought that sounds utterly ridiculous, makes no sense. Not only is he dead, his body turned to ash on the forest moon of Endor but he also became a decent human being in the end. Even if it was to save his own seriously outmatched son.

Bringing him back is nonsensical, but with some tight writing anyone could conceivably return. For example there could be a man that appears who has adopted the Darth Vader mantle, claiming to the same Vader who struck fear across the galaxy decades ago. Luke would obviously say that it’s impossible, but maybe not everyone would believe him. After all he was the only one that saw him die and there are those who man say Vader came back from the brink of death once, perhaps it could again be him. And who’s to say people wouldn’t think Luke and Leia have been protecting this man everyone now knows is their father all these years?

Yes, again, that is a poorly thought idea off the top of my head but the point is anyone can be brought back if done the right way. Except for saying someone’s a clone. If the movie was just like, hey remember Yoda, well here’s a clone of Yoda, Yoda’s back, everyone say hello to new Yoda. Oh we made him blue also because why not, we can, everything’s possible with cloning you’re welcome. If you just keep bringing people back then death has no consequences in this universe, dampening any potential threats and removing tension. Which brings us to…

Kill Someone
As most people are probably aware Harrison Ford was a somewhat reluctant participant in the Star Wars franchise. He was unsure if he was going to return after Empire Strikes Back, hence the frozen in carbonite scene. Plus he wanted his character dead by the end of Return of the Jedi to give that movie more weight, which admittedly, it definitely would have. To give the new trilogy some weight of its own it would be ideal if a major character was killed off from the Original Trilogy. This was attempted in Episode I where Qui Gon, a character of apparent significance was skewered for being boring and wrong, however I’d argue that his death was made null and void by vengeance being taken about thirty seconds later.

Specifically Kill Han Solo
When making this character death, why not make it just make it Han Solo. Realistically Harrison Ford would be taking a backseat to a new cast so why not give the audience a reason to hate whomever the new antagonist is by having him kill off one of the most beloved movie characters of all time. The expanded universe is notoriously protective of the Original Trilogy characters, to the detriment of the stories. Luke, Han and Leia continue to adventure well into their sixties and seventies, whilst second tier characters drop dead all around them. The closest the EU has come to killing someone major off is Chewbacca, a character of so apparent little importance he didn’t even get a medal after he helped Luke blow up the Death Star. So for God sake Disney, kill someone. But not Akbar.

Fill The Story With Real Relatable People
The Original Trilogy is great because it’s filled with what feels like real, relatable people, where-as conversely all the Prequel Trilogy characters are weird asexual monks and politicians. Which is fine, they both cover vastly different eras in the Star Wars universe. BUT, Star Wars works best when it strikes that balance between the real worldy people and the fantastical type characters. What you really need is a Han Solo type guy, so when someone starts banging on about the will of the force they can go That is bullshit. You need to cynicism to balance out the talk of justice and magic and prophecies. This person doesn’t even need to be a smuggler, or a pirate or whatever, you could create a Jedi character with a more realistic view of the universe.

Simplify The Narrative
Another obvious one this but a simplified story would be just phenomenal. The original story makes sense, there’s a whole lot of bad guys, led by the two badest guys. They want to ruin everyone’s fun by exploding planets, shooting lightening and just being dicks. So they need to be stopped, cue Luke, Leia and Han. Everyone gets that, what’s not to get? The prequels are something like, ok there’s these Trade Federation guys and they’re bad guys. Sort of. And they want to stop trade happening on this one planet. But they’re working for this other cloaked guy who wants to be the head of the floating circle senate room and he has this rotating team of evil apprentices working for him and they secretly create some clones to fight the robot’s but he also created the robots but at the same time the evil clocked guy who’s also the head of the Government wants Anakin Skywalker to work for him and it’s just...it’s just…WHAT IS HAPPENING?!? All I’m saying is the simpler the story and the clearer motivations, the better.

At this end of the day though it’s about looking at what works in Star Wars and what doesn’t. The prequels are not entirely without merit just the same as the originals aren’t flawless. It’s really about looking at what people love about these movies, at their core and building on from that. And you know what, at the same time it mightn’t hurt take some chances, try something different. Nothing good can come from pandering to your fans or playing it safe (Kingdom of the Crystal Skull anyone?). The universally loved and best sequels take chances as opposed to just being re-treads and quite frankly I’d rather see something different that doesn’t work than the same thing over again and again.

Everything said here though is obviously one irrelevant person’s opinion, everyone has their own ideas on what would make a good Star Wars movie. So why don’t you share your thoughts. Comment below to let us know what you would like to see in any and all of the upcoming films. And if you disagree with some or all of this, fantastic, differing opinions and healthy debate are what it's all about. Thanks everyone, take care.

Oh and next week, Justice League.

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GoodGuy
GoodGuy - 6/8/2013, 7:13 PM
Stuff that is cool = this
rocky
rocky - 6/8/2013, 7:14 PM
A succesful Star Wars movie
#1 turn camera on
#2 put Star Wars on the title ;)

Making a good Star Wars movie may be a bit different
JoeMomma29
JoeMomma29 - 6/8/2013, 7:20 PM
@ Rocky

That is hilarious but yet so true!

You can slap SW on any movie and it will be successful, does not mean it will be good.
MarvelWeiner
MarvelWeiner - 6/8/2013, 7:21 PM
So I'm guessing this guy has worked on alot of succesful movies... lol
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 6/8/2013, 7:24 PM
How about not putting marketing and toy sales before the story. Lucas's greed was apparent from the 3rd movie on. It seems to me that every decision revolved around drawing every last cent out of the consumer. It took over a decade for the 1st movie to reach premium television. And he replaced decent storytelling with cute lovable but dimwitted characters. Too bad because I really bought in to the 1st 2 movies. Sometimes I imagine what might have been, but then I just watch a Star Trek episode.
IronLeprechaun
IronLeprechaun - 6/8/2013, 7:38 PM
Boba Fett Movie should be like Django Unchained in space, without the slaves and western tones, that shit would be aaaaaaaaaweeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssommmmmmmmmeeeeeeee
ndwwrestler2
ndwwrestler2 - 6/8/2013, 7:46 PM
It's a good thing that both Abrams and Arndt's focus seems to be character in their movies. So together, they should do fine in that respect.

Simplify the narrative seems to be what Abrams gets ripped for by haters.

Focusing on the new cast is going to happen as well as bringing back the old cast.

You make a great point about being smart when bringing old characters back.

Killing Han Solo is the most logical, seeing how Harrison Ford had always wanted that to happen.

Overall, I agree with everything you said.
Mike89
Mike89 - 6/8/2013, 8:07 PM
make a good star wars movie?

1. Get some good actors who can ACT (looking at you Hayden Christensen)
2. Make sure the CGI doesnt look phony
3. Make sure the Dialogue isnt Laughable
4. No Anoying characters like Jar Jar Binks
Hyperionsisthetruth
Hyperionsisthetruth - 6/8/2013, 8:15 PM
Don't bring anyone back they are all too old and we need new characters .....if you have read the books there is no way to continue after Return of the Jedi.... Chewbacca dead Han leia and Luke have kids there is no way to bring these characters back without skipping major parts from the books....we should take it back to Exar kun and ulic qel droma this guy obviously read none of the books....dumb ass editorial....you know nothing lol
themcdougalbugle
themcdougalbugle - 6/8/2013, 8:18 PM
I still am very disappointed they made such a pussy safe choice in getting the man who just directed two Star Trek that were wannabe Star Wars movies. The original Star Wars and especially Empire Strikes Back weren't masterpieces because they made unbold choices in their directors. Look at how Marvel is doing, getting a comedy director to direct Iron Man, getting a tv ensemble veteran and strong female character advocate who directed one little movie 8 years before to direct Avengers, Shane Black, Alan Taylor, James Gunn etc. Disney could have gotten Jake Schreier, J.C. Chandor, Joss Whedon, Jeffrey Blitz, David Levien and Brian Koppelman, or David Fincher. But no. "Only those who risk going too far can possibly find out how far they can go."
— T.S. Eliot
"To win without risk is to triumph without glory."
- Pierre Corneille
"Do you want to be safe and good, or do you want to take a chance and be great?"
— Jimmy Johnson Dallas Cowboys Coach
“If you are not willing to risk the unusual, you will have to settle for the ordinary.” – Jim Rohn
daywalker1623
daywalker1623 - 6/8/2013, 8:25 PM
i personally think JJ will do a better job then Lucas did with the prequels. My two year old does more interesting things in his diaper then the prequels.
That being said I don't think JJ should do all of the next three, bring in other directors for 8 and 9 such Neill Blomkamp or Alfonso Cuarón.
I do agree that Han should be killed. In the books Han and Leia's twins become jedi and one turns bad. How great would it be if Han's kid kills him?
Go back to the real looking sets instead green screen everywhere. Actors don't like acting with tennis balls or spots on walls.
ndwwrestler2
ndwwrestler2 - 6/8/2013, 8:57 PM
@themcdougalbugle Here we go again.

If the safe choice is a stupid choice then...
Frostbyte79
Frostbyte79 - 6/8/2013, 9:10 PM
The Expanded Universe does a really nice job of setting up so much of what happens post-Ep 6 that it would be a shame if they didn't use it, at least for themes and references. The Solo kids and Ben Skywalker would be a nice focal point. The article mentioned that the original characters are still fighting it out into their senior years, but it's managed well in the books. I would disagree with Chewbacca's death being relatively minor because of his lack of a medal. That is a major turning point in the novels. It sends Han into a deep depression that drives a wedge between him and his family. Overall, I would agree with your primary points, though. Nice job.
LuckDragon
LuckDragon - 6/8/2013, 9:17 PM
It will be interesting to see how much of the Expanded Universe, if any, they use in the next sw trilogy. I believe JJ Abrams wants it to be as original as possible, but you can't ignore some of the fantastic characters from the Expanded Universe like:
Prince Xizor
Guri
Dash Rendar
Grand Admiral Thrawn
Mara Jade
Gilad Pallaeon
Joruus C'Baoth
Talon Karrde
Garm Bel Iblis
Winter
Admiral Daala
Kyp Durron
Exar Kun
Durga the Hutt
Bria Tharen
Jaina Solo
Jacen Solo
Anakin Solo
Qwi Xux
Prince Isolder
JoshBerger
JoshBerger - 6/8/2013, 9:19 PM
[frick] the comic relief characters and we're good. I never want to se [frick]ing C3PO...he was cheesy but loveable in the original trilogy...after the prequels I dont want to see him again...ever. And keep the lightsaber duels to a minimum, in fact, if there are going to be lightsaber weilders, keep THOSE to a minimum...I'd say two is about enough(yes, hero and villain...that's it) . And dont [frick]ing mention Anakin or address any of the events that happened in the prequels.
KungFuGee
KungFuGee - 6/8/2013, 10:22 PM
Great video. I think they should focus on the universe through bounty hunter Boba Fett's eyes. Chasing down criminals/ bounties/ contracts, using all those cool gadgets, dealing with the more seedy side of space, working around the governing bodies.
Sosa4693
Sosa4693 - 6/8/2013, 11:24 PM
williams better score the film
jstrang2
jstrang2 - 6/8/2013, 11:35 PM
Can someone tell me why fett is so Damn popular. And he is dead. Sarlac ate him. Fett is D. E. D. De a d
gordonnapier
gordonnapier - 6/8/2013, 11:50 PM
Raglan made a list of the 22 stages of the god hero in myth which has a number of parallels with the original Star Wars saga. I drew up some comparisons and made speculations based on the list for the future episodes

http://gordonnapier.com/the-next-star-wars-films/

It's interesting how well Luke's story fits this myth.
loki668
loki668 - 6/9/2013, 12:04 AM
How about: EVERYBODY GETS A LIGHTSABER AND MAKE A GUNGAN/EWOK ALLIANCE THAT RULES THE GALAXY!!!!
Vaportrail
Vaportrail - 6/9/2013, 12:25 AM
I could read articles like this 'til I'm blue in the face, it still doesn't make a good movie.


These are good tips, but you give this article to two different people and tell them to go make a movie, you're still going to get two very different results.

My biggest thing, I just want JJ to remember he's not rebooting like Trek, he's making a sequel to Return of the Jedi.
Though, I trust that he's smart enough to know the difference, so I'm good.
Panoramacon
Panoramacon - 6/9/2013, 1:15 AM
I'm going to cop out and defer to Red Letter Media and say fallow only the good suggestions.
JohnnyCloud
JohnnyCloud - 6/9/2013, 1:56 AM
Kids in their 20's couldn't care less about Star Wars.
If you want a successful movie you need to recapture the "old magic", I'm not talking about the terrible dialogues and acting that plagued ST from the beginning.
The fantastic scenery mixed with a basic yet classic hero journey is what made the first films a success.
JJ isn't the man for the job, he is a fan not a visionary creator.
Ask Ducan Jones to come up with something and it will be more interesting.
musashi
musashi - 6/9/2013, 2:56 AM
Please reduce the lens flares. That is all.
loki668
loki668 - 6/9/2013, 4:11 AM
Emperor Jar-Jar. That is all.
JoshBerger
JoshBerger - 6/9/2013, 6:57 AM
Btw this reminded me...are the other Star Wars movies(prequels I don't give a [frick] really, but original trilogy is a different story) still going to be released in 3D?
Danbojohnj
Danbojohnj - 6/9/2013, 7:03 AM
More war and less politics.
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 6/9/2013, 7:42 AM
Now I am a huge Star Wars fan. Love the films. The prequels may not be great but that music and Lightsaber battle at the end of 1 was great.

Honestly I don't have a second idea what the story should be able but I do have ideas.

First off NO BOBA FETT!!! Keep him dead. I hate bringing back characters from the dead.

Second I feel Luke should have the Jedi Council rebuilt and be in control of it. I don't see the point of introducing a new Jedi Council will Luke. Instead I see Luke having a Council meanings with the Ghosts of Jedi's past. Yoda, Obi-Wan, Anakin, maybe Mace and Qui-Gon. Sure there are other new masters and padawons in the Temple but Luke trusts the Ghosts. Also no Mard Jane for Luke yet. It would seem weird to see Luke married. Maybe have her as a villain in the trilogy first and then Luke turns her good and falls for her.

I think Han and Chewbacca should be high generals of the galactic army and Air Force.

Lando and Leia are with the politics side and deal with that.

3PO helps out Lando and Leia while R2 is still with Luke helping him in the council.

I do think Han and Leia should be married and should have kids.

Now for the villain, I think we should look towards Episode 1 for the villain. What I mean is whoever the villain is should die at the end. The villain was just the pawn of the chaos that's about to come. Kind of like how Maul was a pawn.

I don't think we should bring back old villains. All of them are dead. Move on to something new.

I'm unsure about killing Han. If he dies, I want Chewbacca to go with him. Those 2 need to die together. The reason I'm unsure about Hans death is that I don't want to see him die and what do you do next? Where do you go from here? I don't want them to just kill off Han for the hell of it. It needs to be powerful. Maybe instead of Han dying, Lando or Chewbacca take the bullet and sacrifice themselves.

Oh and since your doing Justice League, if you need help for some ideas you can give me a call. If I had to suggest one its to make sure Martian Manhunter is on the team. He is the backbone to the JL.
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 6/9/2013, 7:51 AM
I do feel the villains should be alien and nightmarish. Freddy like. He makes your worst nightmare comes alive like. Khan like. I don't mind Vader back as someone else but I feel there needs to be more of a villain than that. A larger and bigger threat.
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 6/9/2013, 8:51 AM
I hate SW's, it would really take something special to get me to forgive the past four movies enough to come back to the fold. Long live LotR's
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