The First Reviews of Avatar are in. . .and they are Good!

The First Reviews of Avatar are in. . .and they are Good!

See what several critics have to say about James Cameron's epic 3-D film.

Review Opinion
By multipurposeponi - Dec 10, 2009 07:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Sci-Fi

Here is a compilation of recently released reviews for the sci-fi action/adventure flick Avatar.



By THE SNEAK, The Sun

"The last time James Cameron directed a movie he broke all box office records. Now - 12 years after Titanic - he has sunk $300million into Avatar to produce the most dazzling film of the decade. It's a 3D movie people will look back on in years to come to comment on how it transformed cinema. In recent 3D releases such as Beowulf, the effects were impressive but the computer-generated humans looked far from real.

In Avatar, everything feels real - and it's as if you are immersed in the action. And what action. The final battle scene is 20 minutes long and absolutely mind-blowing.

Avatar, out next Thursday, is truly an event movie.

And your critic is sure that, even when he is pushing a Zimmer, he will remember the moment the main spaceship of the baddie corporation goes down in Avatar. It is overwhelming, and that is because you are emotionally tied up in the characters and the story. The plot is set in the next century, with humans trying to take vital resources from a distant planet called Pandora. A paraplegic soldier called Jake Sully (Sam Worthington) gets the chance to walk again when he is transformed into the local species, the Na'vi. This 10ft-tall elegant blue creature is his "avatar".


Jake is supposed to spy on the Na'vi for his company, but his mission gets complicated when he falls for a local girl. The romance between Jake and Neytiri (Zoe Saldana) shows that Cameron has not lost his ability to evoke emotion. It will bring tears to your eyes.

Aussie Sam is totally compelling as Jake. It is easy to see why he is now such an in-demand actor. James Cameron has described his new filming process as "emotion capture". And it's a boast he lives up to. Even when Jake is a strange blue creature, you can tell it is him by his mannerisms. A voiceover from Sam leads the audience through the alien world in a soothing, laid-back way.


One of the most amazing scenes comes when Jake and Neytiri are walking in the dark through a forest on Pandora. Suddenly, she puts out her torch and you see all the vivid, fluorescent plants. Some people - who have only seen the photos and not the film - have commented that it looks a bit cartoonish. It doesn't. Everything feels real. It's as if Cameron has happened upon this alien world and got his camera out. Zoe, who played Uhura in the recent Star Trek remake, also displays star quality. You don't need A-list names to make a great movie but it does help having Sigourney Weaver in the cast. She plays a scientist called Grace, who wants to prevent the plunder of Pandora.

Clearly, there is a message here about mankind's destruction of beautiful places. And Cameron's story is very black and white, an old-fashioned tale of good versus evil. It's unashamedly populist. Just like Titanic. But don't worry. This isn't a preachy story. It's big action. The only reason that Avatar won't top Titanic at the box office is that there are not enough digital screens around the world to show it in all its 3D wonder. But you have to admire the film's backers for being brave enough to take a risk on funding such ground-breaking technology."

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/film/2765598/We-get-first-look-at-3D-blockbuster-Avatar.html




By Brendan, Empire Movies

"Avatar is the much-hyped and much-anticipated return of James Cameron as director of a major feature film after an extended hiatus — he has not directed one since 1997’s Titanic. During that time he focused on documentary filmmaking, a couple of television shows and he helped develop the digital 3-D Fusion Camera System, a technology he used to film Avatar.

In the movie, Sam Worthington plays Jake Sully, a U.S. marine who is paralyzed from the waist down. Sully is recruited to travel to a planet called Pandora, a beautiful moon covered with deep forests and magnificent waterfalls and inhabited by a wide array of incredible life forms including the planet’s indigenous population known as the Na’vi. Sully will participate in the Avatar program, whereby he will inhabit the body of a genetically-engineered Na’vi hybrid known as an Avatar.

When Sully transforms to an Avatar, his life changes. He is blue, he is 10-feet tall and he can walk freely around the planet (humans cannot breathe Pandoran air). During his initial rendezvous on the planet, Sully meets a beautiful female Na’vi named Neytiri (Zoe Saldana) and for different reasons, he is accepted into the tribe. The Na’vi are fully aware that Sully is a hybrid so obviously not everyone in the tribe is happy about his presence. But Sully is not there to cause problems. He has simply been asked to observe the Na’vi, to learn about their culture and their habits. It turns out that the main Na’vi camp is situated on top of the largest deposit of a rich mineral that the humans are there to extract. With Sully’s help, the humans are hoping to move the Na’vi off the land peacefully. Unfortunately, this is sacred land for the Na’vi and when they refuse to cooperate with the humans, they do what often happens when it comes to greed, power and money. They decide they are going to forcefully move the Na’vi. This leaves Sully caught in a war between the group of humans who brought him to Pandora to help them out, and Neytiri and the rest of the Na’vi, to whom he has quickly grown very close and attached. An epic battle ensues and the fate of Pandora and the Na’vi rests in the hands of the Americans who have invaded the planet.

I had the opportunity to see Avatar in 3D, a technology of which I have never been a huge fan. I find it sometimes makes the film appear dark and at times, a bit blurry. With Avatar the 3D, for the most part, worked quite well. Where this movie triumphed was in the special effects. The CGI in Avatar has to rank as the best ever in a movie — simply unbelievable. Watching this movie you would never guess it was taking place on an imaginary planet and you actually might believe the Na’vi are a genuine culture. The visual effects in Avatar are outstanding.

As for the acting, well, Sam Worthington is pretty much perfect for the part he plays. He narrates a good part of the movie and has a voice with a bit of an attitude — yet still calming — that was needed to fit the bill. The other actor that stands out is Stephen Lang, who plays the tough-as-nails Colonel Miles Quaritch. If I were to picture in my mind the type of person who should have played Colonel Quaritch, it would be Stephen Lang. I found Giovanni Ribisi to be an odd choice to play the corporate weasel heading up the project. He just seemed a bit young for the part. Zoe Saldana, Sigourney Weaver and Michelle Rodriguez all did a fine job but none of them were called upon to go over and above what you might expect from them. I had totally forgot CCH Pounder was in the cast and when I saw her name in the final credits, I still couldn’t picture her in the movie. I’ll have to look out for that the next time I see it.

The story of Avatar was okay — but probably the weakest part of the whole production. If you step back and look at the basic premise of the movie, it was all pretty simple. The corporate bullies, with the help of the army, step in to take something valuable and they don’t care who they are inconveniencing by doing it. We’ve seen this a million times before on film and probably more times in real life. The only difference with Avatar is that it is happening on an alien planet, with a race of which we have never heard and with some of the best special effects we have ever seen. I was a bit disappointed that I didn’t feel as much emotion as I thought I would feel during the movie. Cameron has done it to me before. I’ll admit I had a tear in my eye when Jack died in Titanic. Hell, I even think I felt a bit sad when the Terminator died in T2. Avatar seemed to be really lacking in that department. Deep down I was cheering for the Na’vi, but I just didn’t feel that raw emotion that you sometimes feel when you are at the movies.

With all that being said, I did immensely enjoy Avatar. It is an outstanding movie to watch and well worth the price of admission. As I just mentioned, the story is decent, but it wasn’t exceptional. The characters are okay but besides Sam Worthington’s Sully, no one was very remarkable. Where this movie is head and shoulders above anything I have ever seen is in the special effects and in the imagination that it took to put it all together. For that, I have to tip my hat to James Cameron and friends. They really did some remarkable work on this film that should impress millions of movie fans around the world. "

8.5 out of 10
http://www.empiremovies.com/2009/12/10/avatar-movie-review/




By Kirk Honeycutt, The Hollywood Reporter

"As commander-in-chief of an army of visual-effects technicians, creature designers, motion-capture mavens, stunt performers, dancers, actors and music and sound magicians, he brings science-fiction movies into the 21st century with the jaw-dropping wonder that is "Avatar." And he did it almost from scratch.

There is no underlining novel or myth to generate his story. He certainly draws deeply on Westerns, going back to "The Vanishing American" and, in particular, "Dances With Wolves." And the American tragedy in Vietnam informs much of his story. But then all great stories build on the past ( "Avatar" premiered Thursday in London).

After writing this story many years ago, he discovered that the technology he needed to make it happen did not exist. So, he went out and created it in collaboration with the best effects minds in the business. This is motion capture brought to a new high where every detail of the actors' performances gets preserved in the final CG character as they appear on the screen. Yes, those eyes are no longer dead holes but big and expressive, almost dominating the wide and long alien faces.

The movie is 161 minutes and flies by in a rush. Repeat business? You bet. "Titanic"-level business? That level may never be reached again, but Fox will see more than enough grosses worldwide to cover its bet on Cameron.

But let's cut to the chase: A fully believable, flesh-and-blood (albeit not human flesh and blood) romance is the beating heart of "Avatar." Cameron has never made a movie just to show off visual pyrotechnics: Every bit of technology in "Avatar" serves the greater purpose of a deeply felt love story (watch the trailer here).

The story takes place in 2154, three decades after a multinational corporation has established a mining colony on Pandora, a planet light years from Earth. A toxic environment and hostile natives -- one corporate apparatchik calls the locals "blue monkeys" -- forces the conglom to engage with Pandora by proxy. Humans dwell in oxygen-drenched cocoons but move out into mines or to confront the planet's hostile creatures in hugely fortified armor and robotics or -- as avatars.

The protagonist, Jake Sully (Sam Worthington), is a crippled former Marine who takes his late twin brother's place in the avatar program, a sort of bone thrown to the scientific community by the corporation in hopes that the study of Pandora and its population might create a more peaceful planet.

Without any training, Jake suddenly must learn how to link his consciousness to an avatar, a remotely controlled biological body that mixes human DNA with that of the native population, the Na'vi. Since he is incautious and overly curious, he immediately rushes into the fresh air -- to a native -- to throw open Pandora's many boxes.

What a glory Cameron has created for Jake to romp in, all in a crisp 3D realism. It's every fairy tale about flying dragons, magic plants, weirdly hypnotic creepy-crawlies and feral dogs rolled up into a rain forest with a highly advanced spiritual design. It seems -- although the scientists led by Sigourney Weaver's top doc have barely scratched the surface -- a flow of energy ripples through the roots of trees and the spores of the plants, which the Na'vi know how to tap into.

The center of life is a holy tree where tribal memories and the wisdom of their ancestors is theirs for the asking. This is what the humans want to strip mine.

Jake manages to get taken in by one tribe where a powerful, Amazonian named Neytiri (Zoe Saldana) takes him under her wing to teach him how to live in the forest, speak the language and honor the traditions of nature. Yes, they fall in love but Cameron has never been a sentimentalist: He makes it tough on his love birds.

They must overcome obstacles and learn each other's heart. The Na'vi have a saying, "I see you," which goes beyond the visual. It means I see into you and know your heart.
In his months with the Na'vi, Jake experiences their life as the "true world" and that inside his crippled body locked in a coffin-like transponding device, where he can control his avatar, is as the "dream." The switch to the other side is gradual for his body remains with the human colony while his consciousness is sometimes elsewhere.

He provides solid intelligence about the Na'vi defensive capabilities to Col. Miles Quaritch (Stephen Lang), the ramrod head of security for the mining consortium and the movie's villain. But as Jake comes to see things through Neytiri's eyes, he hopes to establish enough trust between the humans and the natives to negotiate a peace. But the corporation wants the land the Na'vi occupy for its valuable raw material so the Colonel sees no purpose in this.

The battle for Pandora occupies much of the final third of the film. The planet's animal life -- the creatures of the ground and air -- give battle along with the Na'vi, but they come up against projectiles, bombs and armor that seemingly will be their ruin.

As with everything in "Avatar," Cameron has coolly thought things through. With every visual tool he can muster, he takes viewers through the battle like a master tactician, demonstrating how every turn in the fight, every valiant death or cowardly act, changes its course. The screen is alive with more action and the soundtrack pops with more robust music than any dozen sci-fi shoot-'em-ups you care to mention.

In years of development and four years of production no detail in the pic is unimportant. Cameron's collaborators excel beginning with the actors. Whether in human shape or as natives, they all bring terrific vitality to their roles.

Mauro Fiore's cinematography is dazzling as it melts all the visual elements into a science-fiction whole. You believe in Pandora. Rick Carter and Robert Stromberg's design brings Cameron's screenplay to life with disarming ease.

James Horner's score never intrudes but subtlety eggs the action on while the editing attributed to Cameron, Stephen Rivkin and John Refoua maintains a breathless pace that exhilarates rather than fatigues. Not a minute is wasted; there is no down time.

The only question is: How will Cameron ever top this?"

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film-reviews/avatar-film-review-1004052868.story




By Todd McCarthy, Variety

"Cameron reportedly wrote the story, if not the full script, for "Avatar" at least 15 years ago but decided he had to wait until visual effects capabilities advanced sufficiently to credibly render his imagined world and its inhabitants. On this fundamental level, the picture is a triumph; it's all of a piece, in no way looking like a vague mish-mash of live-action, CGI backdrops, animation, performance capture and post-production effects. On top of that, the 3D is agreeably unemphatic, drawing the viewer into the action without calling attention to itself. The third dimension functions as an enhancement, not a raison d'etre, so the film will look perfectly fine without it. (When it opens domestically on Dec. 15, approximately 2100 screens will feature 3D, with another 1200 in 2D.)

Then there's the appearance of the indigenous Na'vi clan. In the wake of the still photographs, trailers and 15-minute appetizer offered up by Fox in recent months, a certain wait-and-see reaction could be felt that raised mild doubts about how physically appealing the protagonists would be. But once they're introduced in the context of the picture, these blue-skinned, yellow-eyed creatures quickly become captivating, even sexy, with their rangy height, slim and elongated bodies and skimpy wardrobe, and the grace and dexterity with which they move.

A few more lines of exposition might have helped explain why, in the year 2154 (according to the press notes), Earthlings, represented exclusively, for some reason, by the United States armed forces, need to travel light years away to Pandora to mine a precious mineral that will help rescue the planet from ecological disaster. (Does the U.S. now rule the world? Or is this nation, exclusively, concerned about the environment? Is it the only country left? Or is it simply the best villain for global consumption?)

After the death of his identical-twin scientist brother, wheelchair-bound former Marine Jake Sully (Sam Worthington) takes his place to become an Avatar, a hybrid being that combines human DNA with that of the Na'vi; achieving the Avatar status occurs under lab conditions, with the subject experiencing his or her alternate state as if in a dream. The official hope is that negotiations can help persuade the natives to move aside and allow further exploitation of their land, although hawkish mission commander Col. Miles Quaritch (Stephen Lang) enlists the gung ho Jake's help as his personal military spy.

Early glimpses of the intergalactic spaceship, weightless crew members and Avatars floating in liquid-filled cylinders are mere teasers for the wonders awaiting on Pandora itself. Unlike most sci-fi and action films, which seem compelled by formula to kick off with a slam-bang opening and then punctuate things with more mayhem every 20 minutes or so, "Avatar" more gently escorts the viewer into its new world while utilizing a classical three-act structure.

Unavoidable Vietnam vibes emanate from the scenes of futuristic choppers descending upon the verdant jungles and mountainsides of Pandora, a land filled with exotic insects, giant airborne reptiles and birds, dinosaur-like beasts and fearsome, dog-like attack animals. Separated from his scientific companion and fellow Avatar Grace (Sigourney Weaver) and stranded at night, Jake is rescued from becoming a midnight snack by Na'vi warrior Neytiri (Zoe Saldana), who subsequently shows the interloper around and very gradually warms to him as he demonstrates an aptitude for native ways.

Cameron's extensive experience on deep-water ocean dives, which resulted in a couple of Imax 3D documentaries, no doubt influenced the glowing, luminous nature of some of the plant life and floating seeds that waft through the environment's atmosphere, while the grander landscapes offer staggering vistas of places that are perhaps most reminiscent of South America, just as the Na'vi most strongly call to mind the natives of the Americas in their customs and tribal manners. For their language, which is extensively spoken with subtitled translation, Cameron had a professor, Paul Frommer, invent a tongue of more than 1,000 words from scratch, although Neytiri, among others, has previously learned pretty good English from Grace.

Although the young Na'vi males resent him, Jake learns quickly and earns his stripes by successfully piloting a giant flying banshee. After three months, however, just as the colonel is ready to send his young charge back home, Jake crosses over and, inspired by his intimacy with Neytiri, goes native. It's "A Man Called Horse" all over again, with Jake, believing he can help the clan repel the invaders, taking up the role of a resistance leader against overwhelming odds.

Final stretch is devoted to the ferocious battle between the Earthly maurauders, with their huge airborne battleships and mighty arsenal, and the nearly naked home team, armed mostly with bows and arrows. Despite the latter fighting on friendly terrain, the mismatch is just too great, and the way things pan out strikes the one somewhat discordant dramatic note in the picture, resulting in a bit of final-reel deflation; surely, a more complex but believable climax and aftermath could have been found.

Thematically, the film also plays too simplistically into stereotypical evil-white-empire/virtuous-native cliches, especially since the invaders are presumably on an environmental rescue mission on behalf of the entire world, not just the U.S. Script is rooted very much in a contemporary eco-green mindset, which makes its positions and the sympathies it encourages entirely predictable and unchallenging.

On an experiential level, however, "Avatar" is all-enveloping and transporting, with Cameron & Co.'s years of R&D paying off with a film that, as his work has done before, raises the technical bar and throws down a challenge for the many other filmmakers toiling in the sci-fi/fantasy realm. The lead team from Weta in New Zealand as well as the numerous other visual-effects and animation firms involved have done marvelous and exacting work, a compliment that extends to every other craft and technical contribution on view.

Playing a grunt in a crewcut before his transformation, Worthington is tough, gruff and assertive as the genetic pioneer turned insurrectionist, while Saldana proves her mettle as yet another kickass Cameron heroine. Lang, already seen to great advantage this year in "Public Enemies," is a relentless militarist par excellence, while Weaver, looking great wearing a Stanford T-shirt, no doubt a personal touch by the alum, is wonderfully authoritative as a scientist so unimpeachable that she can get away with smoking on board an intergalactic spaceship."

http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117941773.html?categoryid=31&cs=1




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StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 12/10/2009, 7:04 PM
lol

Im surprised
Runefyst
Runefyst - 12/10/2009, 7:08 PM
Ok, I was fairly excited to see this before. But now I'm beyond hyped!
Tobuttica
Tobuttica - 12/10/2009, 7:08 PM
Ackles and Worthington for Matt Damon's balls!!
Stumblin
Stumblin - 12/10/2009, 7:14 PM
I don't really see this movie being the end all be all of movies, but I think it will be entertaining, which is more than enough for me.
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 12/10/2009, 7:17 PM
I've wanted to see this since the first trailer, but I wasn't very confident it would be as good as these reviews say it is. I'm glad to see that it is actually worth checking out.
peterparker420
peterparker420 - 12/10/2009, 7:21 PM
HOW IS EVERYONE SURPISED THAT THIS MOVIE IS GOING TO BE GOOD?..Of course this movie is going to be good, cameron
poured his heart and soul into this.
(I watch alot of interviews of him), anyway
I can't wait to see this movie next week!
IT IS TRUELY GOING TO BE EPIC!
Wadey09
Wadey09 - 12/10/2009, 7:25 PM
this is one of those instances where the critics and the fans are both hyped to view a movie.
and even though they search for different qualities, believe it or not, the fans and critics find common ground.
if only if it would happen more often.
CRITIC17
CRITIC17 - 12/10/2009, 7:25 PM
Well I am not surprised at all!!!! Everything Cameron has written/directed has done good. From Terminator 1 and 2, to Aliens, to the Abyss, to Titanic, to True Lies. They are all good. I have no doubt in my mind that Avatar will BE GOOD!!! Tune in on the 30th for my Top 10 Best and Worst films of 2009. Next week I shall review Avatar, and then end the year with Sherlock Holmes (which I will see on Christmas). So, yeah GO AVATAR!!!!!

@Poni: Are you gonna go see it??
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 12/10/2009, 7:30 PM
This does give me more hope for the movie, but I'm still waiting to actually see the movie before I jump on the "Avatar is awesomeness" wagon.

Can't wait for the flood of "I told you so!" comments from the fanatics.
FateSucks
FateSucks - 12/10/2009, 7:51 PM
Well this does change a bit for me. I will go see it now, but still with trepidation. Being that so many of you tout Cameron's work as "great" I do have ti disagree, Titanic is awful, T2 has one of the worst endings in film history, the Abyss was just that, an abyss of a horrendous film, True Lies is entertaining at best, the only two films of his I love are Aliens and Terminator.
superdog
superdog - 12/10/2009, 7:51 PM
I'm with Tyler. This is a movie I will have to see myself. I'm not gonna believe the hype or the critics. I will see it in IMAX 3d so no one can say "you didn't see it the way it was meant to be seen". If it's good illbe the first to say it. But change movies forever? That's gonna be tough
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 12/10/2009, 7:58 PM
I'm with superdog ;)

I have said that exact same thing. I'm seeing it in IMAX 3D so none of the fanatics can make the excuse that "it's only good if you see it how it is supposed to be seen!"

And really, anyone who uses that argument is actually pointing out the movie's flaws. No matter what, a movie should stand on it's own merits as a quality film, and should not rely on fancy CGI effects to get good reviews.

If it's good, I'll GLADLY admit it. I WANT this movie to be good, really badly. I want to like it. But, with the constant cries of "This movie is going to revolutionize cinema and films forever!" comments, and the super-predictable (and unoriginal) plot, it just doesn't look like it's going to be that great.

I'm holding full judgement on the movie until I see it.
DogsOfWar
DogsOfWar - 12/10/2009, 8:04 PM
But where's the bald kid with the earth, wind & fire powers? I'm confused
Weapon420
Weapon420 - 12/10/2009, 8:21 PM
This doesn't suprise me, James Cameron introduced us to the first and best Terminator movies, and this movie will show us why he should always be at the helm of any Terminator film, Salvation wasn't that bad, but with Cameron, it could have been way better! Rise of the Machines could just never have happened, haha!
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 12/10/2009, 8:48 PM
Well.... I'm not as optimistic as you dudes.

I have a suspicion that it will be big on lush, gorgeous visuals but little on plot, character development, dialogue. A mixed bag as it were...

However like MPP said i will be there opening night 3d IMAX all the way
wagonburner
wagonburner - 12/10/2009, 9:07 PM
DarthMulder-

how could u be surprised, if u havent seen it before hand? do you not watch a football season because your coach is replaced? or the jersey's different? anyways my point is watch the damn movie first before you criticize. i have no idea if its gonna be good or not, but im going in bias free.
IrvineGray
IrvineGray - 12/10/2009, 9:17 PM
Couple weeks ago, alotta you folk were all bashing Avatar left and right. "Oh, the plot is so cliche! It's based off books 'X' and 'Y' and movie 'Z'!" or "Those CGI characters and backgrounds look sooo cartoony/fake! That's supposed to be revolutionary?! Lame!" "This movie is gonna suck!"

I'm not gonna say I told ya so; that ain't the kinda person I am. I can't even say anything as the movie hasn't come out yet. However, I guess what I AM saying is, I don't understand everyone's reservations about this movie. It's by a damn fine director, and, in my humble opinion, the movie's plot and story, while not original, is a CLASSIC in design and therefore HAS peaked my interest. So I'll be seein it. 3D-Imax. Open-minded. No reservations. And we'll see how it goes. That's all any of us can do anyway.
juggy4711
juggy4711 - 12/10/2009, 9:24 PM
We know it will be little on plot, it's frakin Dances with Wolves with aliens. The diffirence being that instead of the white man being evil it will be all of mankind. Seriously...DWW was a fantastic movie and I have no doubt that Avatar will be worth watching and look incredible. But will it be anything original? Except for the Spec Eff I seriously doubt it. Its gonna be a "love it or hate it" epic.

I will see it. It will look fabulous, but the plot will be garbage unless there is a huge twist from what we have heard already. I hope there is, otherwise I'll just watch DWW. How many here have ragged on the Star Wars PT becuase it was all effects and no plot? If we get a repeat of a plot we have already seen before how much can the Spec Eff make up for it no matter how good they are? If we get DWW with aliens anyone that likes Avatar and doesn't like the SW PT is full of it.
ASSASSIN666
ASSASSIN666 - 12/10/2009, 9:29 PM
There has to be something beyond what the reviews and trailers are saying. While I'm hearing a ton of praise for the effects, I need to see how the plot goes. The movie looks totally predictable if you go by everything we've seen by now. The story has to throw a curve somewhere, or this is just going to be the biggest CGI movie ever. Can't wait to see this to see how it unfolds.
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 12/10/2009, 9:38 PM
None of us are judging the actual film. We've all been saying (namely, me, Ror, Darth, superdog, and teabag) that, from WHAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN, this movie doesn't look that great.

We are not criticizing the movie itself, we simply have meh or worse opinions about it SO FAR from (again) WHAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN. The key words are what we've been given. Criticizing something would mean we are saying that something IS "blah blah blah." We aren't saying that it will suck. There is a huge difference between saying that something will suck or will not be original/revolutionary/etc. and saying that it looks like it isn't that great or original/whatever.

Those of us who are not so optimistic about Avatar are going by the predictable plot, cartoonish looking CGI (in the trailers), and just the seemingly unoriginal concepts the movie is centered around.

Again, we haven't said the movie is going to suck. If we had actually said that, then I could understand the optimists criticizing our opinions. But we aren't. At all.
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 12/10/2009, 9:40 PM
@ Wagonburner: Oh how original! Gosh i never thought of that! No ones ever made such a brilliant point before!!

Actually people say that shit every single day and it would be meaningful if I was if I was prejudging based on nothing. Or just based on an unimpressive trailer or something.

But I have seen trailers, tv spots, sneak previews, and behind the scenes making of kind of stuff. I have read several reviews, heard it described by fanboiz that work in the industry, heard dozens of spoilers of all kinds annnd because of all that I have a pretty good idea about what to expect.

If I didn't know anything, then I wouldn't have anything to base expectations on now would I? And I wouldn't have any reason or purpose for criticizing would I?

But that's just not the case. I do know some things about it. I do have reasons to doubt certain things about it... so lay off!

Sorry I am not a kool aid drinking Avatard, but if you look at the comment I made above the one where your so flippantly informed me that there is something wrong with me forming my own opinion I DID GODAMN SAY I WAS GOING TO GIVE IT A CHANCE!
DogsOfWar
DogsOfWar - 12/10/2009, 9:47 PM
Well said Darth!

Some of the other reviews I have seen have said exactly what has been said here-great look, ok story.

I will still check it out though
TheGrinch
TheGrinch - 12/10/2009, 10:03 PM
Surprisingly these review kinda make me excited to see this movie, and i for the most part HATE critics, (and had doubts on this movie) but through their writing they seem to be actually stunned! which is awesome... but one thing that does bother me about Avatar is that I don't understand why you would CGI people (which costs more money) if your gonna have them look exactly like the actors, why not just do the na'vi in motion capture?
ThisFan
ThisFan - 12/10/2009, 10:05 PM
Wow i did not see this coming i thought the movie would be bombed by critics
IrvineGray
IrvineGray - 12/10/2009, 10:27 PM
@ Tyler: Question: What, nowadays, qualifies as being "original"? I've always been under the impression that no matter what's been done or is being done nowadays, no singular thought you've ever had has been original. With 6 billion people on the planet, currently, and the past 3-4 billion people who have lived on the Earth...just sayin. Whatever thoughts you've had, statistically speaking, probably aren't yours. At least originally.

You're right though. From everything we've been given about Avatar it is pretty unoriginal. In plot, style, format and, even though being filmed almost entirely in CG, it uses technology that has simply been enhanced and built upon, but has existed, in some form, for over 20 years. That's why the Devil is in the Details. It's the details that makes anything and everything interesting and different from everything else. It's what allows us to listen to the Hero's Story 10,0000 times over and still be able to enjoy it.

But I'm sure you knew all this. And I'm not trying to be a dick or anything. But I'm curious to know what you think of as an "original" idea now in Hollywood.

LEEE777
LEEE777 - 12/10/2009, 10:42 PM
Multi ; D

Cool news!!!

F You AVATAR H8RS whoever you are!! : D

Its not a movie its a whole [frick]ing UNIVERSE!!!
Macksimus
Macksimus - 12/11/2009, 12:04 AM
Well, these reviews confirm what I have been worrying about with regard to this movie for a while now...poor plot/story.

It seems like the whole plot and story is way too predictable. The trailers pretty much tell the whole story. The only thing I don't know at this point is who wins in the end, but more than likely its the Na'vi.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 12/11/2009, 12:16 AM
South Park was right, this seems kind of like a rip-off of "Dances with Wolves." South Park is always right. Praise be to South Park.
OKlan
OKlan - 12/11/2009, 1:09 AM
Yeah, I agree! Avatar is a nice movie, it is a jaw-dropping, mind-blowing movie. Its good to know that the movie industry is helping the economy, especially the housing market.They pulled in the reins so much that almost no one who needed money could get it. This seemed a justifiable reaction considering the magnitude of the economic turmoil. A problem with looking back too long is that it doesn't encourage moving forward. The role of appraisers now has become one of defender of the bank. They may have swung too far the other way, and are being reactive to the crisis just like they were to the conditions that caused it - and those that don't study the past are doomed to repeat it. The truth is that no deals mean nobody gets any money.
Catastic
Catastic - 12/11/2009, 2:58 AM
Everything James Cameron films is gold. Even Piranha II: The Spawning :)
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 12/11/2009, 4:34 AM
Irvine: I recognize that most films in Hollywood today are not original. You would have to be extremely naive to think that all movies are totally original.

However, when a supposedly "original" concept and story comes out and it pretty much has 0 plot elements that we haven't seen before, I think it's pretty justified to criticize the movie for it.

Every plot element that I've seen so far from Avatar looks ripped off from other movies. Matrix, Dances With Wolves, Ferngully, the Last Samurai, to name a few.
Gose
Gose - 12/11/2009, 4:43 AM
THATS INCREDIBLE !!!
Spilox
Spilox - 12/11/2009, 5:33 AM
Well it might not be original, but it looks damn cool :D
Shaman
Shaman - 12/11/2009, 6:49 AM
Okay... why would anyone be "more" psyched after reading reviews that tell us exactly what we already know about the film? This isn't earth shattering news. They all confirmed that the movie is a breath taking visual special effects experience with not merely a "unoriginal" plot but an OVERUSED one. You see, i understand that no idea is truly original but does that mean that we HAVE to conciede interest to any overused ones? No. These reviews confirm that the movie is doing it's job at being entertaining but that it has INDEED been OVER-HYPED. This film will probably end up being the best sci-fi movie of the year but will never be the "be all/end all" of movies. There is NOTHING revolutionnary about this film aside from the CGI "emotion capture" system which very well COULD have been used for monumentally better films such as Lord of the Rings, Clash of the Titans or any fantasy or Comic Book Film. One review said that the film's budget was not 500 million but 300 million. If that is the case then the movie has a good chance at success. If not, the movie has a slight chance at breaking even IMO. It will not top Titanic and isn't a sure bet at defeating TDK. As i've said before, beyond the shadow of a doubt, this film WILL be entertaining and i sure as hell will be there, at Wal-Mart in two years, buying it for 5$ maybe 10$ in the bargin bins.
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