Even More Information On 'Superman: Man of Steel'.

Even More Information On 'Superman: Man of Steel'.

I09 Got the chance to talk to Zack Snyder about 'Superman: Man of Steel' and he discusses how he'll bring his style to the movie, and says this will be the most realistic Superman we've ever seen.

By Comedian03 - Mar 21, 2011 03:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Man of Steel
Source: I09

There's been no shortage of information from Zack Snyder on his upcoming version of Superman, and the folks over at I09 got the chance to talk to him yesterday while at a press junket for 'Sucker Punch'.

Here's the interview for you guys.

Sucker Punch is PG-13, but it could very easily be R-rated, and it's very much in keeping with the violent, very stylized approach we've seen in your earlier films. How are you going to make that style work when it comes time to do Superman?


Well I feel like what we're trying to do is we're going to make him as relevant as we can, as culturally relevant as we can, and I don't know if that sort of big blue boy scout image... does he work today? That's the question, and I'm not going to answer that here, but you sort of start to think about that and if that makes sense to a modern Superman.


Are you trying to fit Superman into your aesthetic, or change your approach to fit the Superman mythos?


I feel like, I mean I've said to the studio that this will probably be the most realistic Superman movie ever made. It takes place in the real world much more than [my previous films]... I mean, I've just never had the subject matter that needed that, you know what I mean? Like everything I've done up to this point really has the benefit of existing in a stylized world. It's fun for me that the most realistic movie, the movie that I'd say I'm making in the most realistic way of any movie I've ever done is a movie called Superman! That's kinda fun!

So you're working from what Christopher Nolan has done with the Batman movies?

I wouldn't say, "Oh, that's what Chris did with Batman...", but I'm just saying that makes sense to me for the character. Because I'd say that the thing that makes him real, and the thing that makes Superman awesome, is if you feel like he's real, what makes him real is that he exists in a world that you can say, "Oh yeah, I've been to that grocery store, I've been to that."

Diane Lane and Kevin Costner as Superman's parents are the only two people who have been cast in beyond Henry Cavill as Superman. What was the thinking in going with relatively young actors for those parts?

Well, Costner's 57.

But it's a young 57...

Oh sure. My idea was that Superman's parents should be vibrant, like real people, not like some doddering ancient cliché.

Which is what we've sort of seen in the previous Superman movies...

Yeah, completely. I think the thing you realize when you look at Diane and Kevin, in our decision to cast them so far, you sort of get a sense of how tonally we're looking at the movie, and what you realize is that those guys are serious actors, and we're taking this **** ****ing seriously in terms of the tone of having those guys. You're talking about having a situation where whatever the action is or whatever the drama of the movie is, our first priority is to make sure it's rendered in the most realistic way we can get at.

We were wondering if you've had a chance to check out the recent animated adaptation of Grant Morrison's All-Star Superman, which has been called the definitive Superman story.

I have not seen it, I'm happy to see it, I do want to see it, I just haven't had time. Yeah, absolutely. And by the way, I'm a fan of Grant, of All-Star Superman, I think it's cool, although I'd say... that's the big version of Superman, you know that's a stylized world. But awesome, and very sort of telling [about the character]. We're treating the concept of Superman as if there's been no Superman movies up till now, we're trying to take that tack — that this is the first Superman movie and no other ones exist. Not to take anything away from those movies, because they're great, but it's sort of the way you have to do it, otherwise you're really not starting over, you're really just a slave to whatever's happened in the past. But that doesn't mean that we don't respect the canon and we don't understand the canon, that we know what the requirements of Superman are without it also being the same old Superman.
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Denn1s
Denn1s - 3/21/2011, 3:55 PM
i hope it is not TOO realistic. superman is no batman
IncredibleRulk
IncredibleRulk - 3/21/2011, 4:07 PM
Does he have full control over this movie? I cannot imagine a Superman movie being rated higher than a PG. You know' being Hollywood and stuff and wanting to cater to the kids so they buy the merchandise.
IncredibleRulk
IncredibleRulk - 3/21/2011, 4:09 PM
@Demonhunter15
No it won't.
emilyella
emilyella - 3/21/2011, 4:11 PM
yeah i agree, superman isn't like batman. i love snyder and i am SO EXCITED about sucker punch but i dont want superman to be too dark
jazzman
jazzman - 3/21/2011, 4:11 PM
@demonhunter15

yes most likely Superman Reboot and TDKR will blow Marvel movies. but that does not help WB/DC cause they only focusing on Superman and Batman all the time. WB/DC needs to do other characters outside of Superman and Batman.

@Denn1s & EmilyElla

actaully when he said realisitic he means that Superman live in our real world. he does not mean Superman wont have his powers etc he just mean he making the movie feel real with an unrealisitic character.

@SuperHeroFan

actually Superman reboot will be most likely be PG-13 not PG of course.
ALmighty1080
ALmighty1080 - 3/21/2011, 4:12 PM
i can listen to this guy talk about superman for hours. im so pumped cant wait until we get some more casting news
vermillion
vermillion - 3/21/2011, 4:18 PM
Yeah, I have a feeling this movie is going to explode when it comes out... Hopefully it does.

So excited for this one. Zack Snyder= Awesome
Ethic
Ethic - 3/21/2011, 4:19 PM
Every word Snyder says about the film gets me pumped for this!
I know I'm going to love this film, I just know it.
CapFan79
CapFan79 - 3/21/2011, 4:21 PM
@demonhunter15 I doubt it. The one thing that Marvel has going for it is that several of their characters have not been put to film. This is the what? 6th Superman! I love Superman but it's just stale now. This had better be one huge epic film because I can't see them making a bunch of really good movies.

Also other than Batman, Marvel's villians are superior to just about anything DC has (I can hear all the butt hurt fanboys coming to attack me). I think Captain America is the film to beat on the horizon and Thor looks pretty amazing too. I think The Avengers is more anticipated at the moment that Superman is.
dnno1
dnno1 - 3/21/2011, 4:30 PM
The last time somebody said they were trying to make a realistic Superman, we got Byrne's weak Superman. I hope that's not what they mean by most realistic Superman ever.
tlarz85
tlarz85 - 3/21/2011, 4:31 PM
For Lois!For Lex!
fanboy76
fanboy76 - 3/21/2011, 4:34 PM
it just sounds to me that Snyder loves this movie and that it will be a labor of love and respect. Listening to him talk about this movie just gets me more and more pumped in anticipation. I also love that hes talking to everyone who is willing to listen about his ideas for this flick. so much info hes making readily available to fans and the press.
JustinMSalvato
JustinMSalvato - 3/21/2011, 4:47 PM
"and I don't know if that sort of big blue boy scout image... does he work today?"

Make it work mofo'!
The14thAvenger
The14thAvenger - 3/21/2011, 4:54 PM
@fanboy76 i completely agree, thats why i feel snyder is one hell of a director and have complete faith.

if you look at all of his films (dawn of the dead im not so sure) we all know that they are films he's WANTED and LOVED to make, they are his projects. and even if hes been picked out of a list by a studio he makes it his!
MrFloZeke
MrFloZeke - 3/21/2011, 4:58 PM
@tlarz~ I concur!!!
HarrisonBergeron
HarrisonBergeron - 3/21/2011, 5:03 PM
WTF is up with WB/DC? Why do the insist on letting people put their "spin" on the characters? Have they learned nothing from the stomping they are getting from Marvel?

Batman has Nolan's spin.
Green Lantern has a [frick]in' glow in the dark suit
Now Superman has hot parents, isn't a boy scout, and shops at the grocery store down the street.

Why won't DC just make their movies like the comics that inspired them?

Weren't all the Superman movies we've seen so far meant to take place in a realistic, non-stylized world?
Malfunk1
Malfunk1 - 3/21/2011, 5:08 PM
I remember when i saw watchmen for the first time & i
thought to myself, "this director would make a great
Superman movie." Dreams really do come true. This movie
is going to be the Superman movie we've all been wiating
for for so long. Can't wait.
luckylu
luckylu - 3/21/2011, 5:19 PM
i was really hoping for a very stylized superman world like what he did with the watchmen. still this movie should be awesome
AdamStarr211
AdamStarr211 - 3/21/2011, 5:22 PM
@tlarz totally agree with your lex, Olivia Wilde should be lois though, her parents are both reporters!!
PacificOrca
PacificOrca - 3/21/2011, 5:24 PM
"Oh sure. My idea was that Superman's parents should be vibrant, like real people, not like some doddering ancient cliché."

I like everything I've seen so far with Snyder, but this statement is stupid. Does he know anything about what it's like to work on a farm? Costner doesn't look like he's been working on a farm for the last forty five years, he looks like he's been playing golf and getting his hair done for forty five years. Geesh.

These Hollywood types are so terrified of showing real people from middle america... oh, yeah, I forgot. This Superman movie is supposed to be the most "realistic." Heh.
superotherside
superotherside - 3/21/2011, 5:28 PM
cool! he just better make it good!
Dmon
Dmon - 3/21/2011, 5:28 PM
@CapFan79 lol Every villain in the Iron-Man movies have sucked so far. The Iron-Man movies were great but not for their villains.
NeoBaggins
NeoBaggins - 3/21/2011, 5:31 PM
Starting to worry about all this "realistic" talk. He's putting too much emphasis on it. Hopefully he just means the settings will be in the real world as opposed to the strange look of his regular films. He could actually use some of that weird lighting and color for certain scenes in Superman. But I hope he doesn't think he's going to turn Superman into Superman Begins. You can only get so real with a dude that can fly.
reverendjonnynemo
reverendjonnynemo - 3/21/2011, 5:41 PM
Billy Zane for Lex Luthor!
AlSimmons
AlSimmons - 3/21/2011, 5:42 PM
Yes, a flying man with unlimited strength and laser vision is realistic...
ReynMan
ReynMan - 3/21/2011, 6:04 PM
what is all this hullabaloo over superman being real?? face it people, comic-book Superman is cool only to us nerds and geeks and comic-book readers and things in comic-books don't necessarily translate well into movies. what is wrong with clark kent going to a grocery store that we know?? a certain red-clad superhero spins his web and swings constantly around the Empire State buliding all the time in his movies!! and the "Marvel sux/ DC rulez" brigade is pooping in their pants out of pure joy because TDK almost beat Titanic at the box office, so why do they whine because it's a [frick]ing good movie that non-comic book readers can enjoy their asses to?? come on people, the man will fly and shoot fire from his eyes. they are gonna put that into the movie, no matter how "realistic" they want to make it. keep an open mind, Snyder's gonna do great. if not there's always the "reboot" to please you.
superpooper
superpooper - 3/21/2011, 6:07 PM
Oh shit. Sounds like he's got Nolan up his ass. Zack is my favorite director for CBM's. I hate to hear him start talking "realistic" all the sudden.
aaronite1999
aaronite1999 - 3/21/2011, 6:27 PM
I'm glad he's bringing Superman into the real world, the same way "Metropolis" was basically New York in the '78 movie.

There's no point in giving us the clean, pristine, futuristic Metropolis from the cartoon (it's not Krypton after all!)

It should be bustling, chaotic and filled with crime and attitude,just like real cities. Clean and Utopian = Boring. Also, Metropolis and Superman should look great at night, just like in the aforementioned movie, people don't associate sunny/bright days with crime!

Lois should be kind of world-weary and full of NY "attitude" herself, representative of Metropolis (ie NOT the innocent-looking 18 yr old mother we saw in the last movie, lol)

@tlarz - agreed, great choices both!
valeriesghost
valeriesghost - 3/21/2011, 6:49 PM
I couldn't ask for a better Director/producer combo IMHO. These guys are gonna nail it.
docgl
docgl - 3/21/2011, 8:11 PM
If he's not the Big Blue Boy Scout he's not Superman Period!
thewolfx
thewolfx - 3/21/2011, 8:57 PM
i havent comments on superman sense i joined this site i think its time sense one of my top favorite superheroes.

i think zack will do something fresh with him thats for sure but will it be positive or a negative spin?? who knows but all i want is if its gonna be realistic leave at his world and make superman the god he is. also leave the basics of his suit alone , if he can make underwear look fine in 300 im sure he can do the same in this ..dark red leather comes to mind
Layperson
Layperson - 3/21/2011, 11:17 PM
It'll be a decent flick, I always have some reservations about "updating" heroes, "making them relevant" personally, but I can see why people call for that sort of thing. I'm not sure if it works with Superman, but I suppose we'll see.

In the end we'll all go see it, there will be things about it that we love, and things about it that we hate, but the bottom line is that we'll the movie we asked for. Superman punches his way to victory in fine CGI fashion(Ala Snyder)and along the way there is a crisis about identity and morality (Ala Nolan). I really think that they should make AT LEAST 2 movies, to tell a sweeping story, I think Superman deserves that. Personally, I'd like to see a large scale epic with Brainiac in a looming threat role, Lex in a behind the scenes manipulative role, the Eradicator in a punching bag role in the first movie, and have Brainiac as the primary villain in movie 2. I would like to see Krypton (hence the Eradicator/Brainiac choices for villains) worked into the plot as much as possible, but with this "realistic" Superman idea I don't think we'll get that.

Oh, but btw, if "realistic" means he doesn't get to fly I'm walking out of the theater.
I am looking forward to the movie, after reading the above I know it doesn't seem that way, I think that the team they've put together balances itself nicely, and I think the cast so far is well done. I'm not crazy massive and sweeping changes to Superman, thankfully we're on, what--the third iteration of what it means to be "relevant" (Returns and Smallville being the first two) I'm hoping that Nolan and Snyder have learned the lessons both of have taught us. No one wants a sulking Superman, No one wants a black suit (what a travesty that is btw), we just want big blue bring truth(right fist), justice(left fist)to a world that desperately needs a moral beacon.
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