DC Studios Co-Chair James Gunn Debunks Ultraman And Bizarro Rumors For SUPERMAN

DC Studios Co-Chair James Gunn Debunks Ultraman And Bizarro Rumors For SUPERMAN

Rumors that Superman would be squaring off against Ultraman or Bizarro began to spread like wildfire this past week but director James Gunn has taken to social media to set the record straight.

By MarkJulian - Apr 05, 2024 06:04 PM EST
Filed Under: Superman: Legacy

Somehow it became widely believed that a villain other than Lex Luthor would be menacing the Man of Steel in director James Gunn's Superman film. 

Initially, online chatter centered on Bizarro before Ultraman became the 'surefire' antagonist.

The rumor seems to have originated from anonymous online 'scoopers' Can we Get Some Toast and My Time To Shine. Daniel Richtman also joined the bandwagon, asserting that Ultraman was a villain in the film, posting it to his paid subscribers group.

The rumors swirled for a few days but DC Studios co-chair and Superman director James Gunn has taken to Threads to debunk those claims (as he often does).

Gunn wrote, "The primary protagonist of Superman is, shockingly, Superman. The main villain of Superman is, shockingly, Lex Luthor. I don’t know where all the stuff is coming from that it’s something other than this. There are so many stories coming out every day it’s difficult to deal with and everytime I strike something down I’m giving it attention. So, I’ll say again, don’t believe anything unless you see it HERE (& why would you want to know everything before the movie comes out anyway?"

It's worth taking the time at this juncture to point out that for every rumor that pans out from these faceless, Twitter 'scoopers', the next three or four end up being wrong.

Superman, formerly titled Superman: Legacy, is currently filming on location in Atlanta, with on-location filming in Ohio on the horizon, at a site that could potentially be used for the Hall of Justice.

The James Gunn-directed (and written) film stars David Corenswet as Kal-El/Clark Kent, Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane, Nathan Fillion as Guy Gardner/Green Lantern, Isabela Merced as Hawkgirl, Edi Gathegi as Mister Terrific, Sean Gunn as Maxwell Lord, María Gabriela de Faría as Angela Spica/The Engineer, Terence Rosemore as Otis, Wendell Pierce as Perry White, Sara Sampaio as Eve Teschmacher, and Anthony Carrigan as Metamorpho.

Additionally, Nicholas Hoult has been confirmed by Gunn to portray Lex Luthor in the film. Milly Alcock was also recently cast as Supergirl and is also expected (but unconfirmed) to appear in Legacy, as well.

Currently set for release on July 11, 2025, Superman: Legacy Superman is the first film in Gunn's reboot of the DCEU. 

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MuadDib
MuadDib - 4/5/2024, 6:38 PM
Ha ha…
tylerzero
tylerzero - 4/6/2024, 12:09 AM
@MuadDib -

This is how I heard what you wrote it in my head…

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MuadDib
MuadDib - 4/6/2024, 12:56 AM
@tylerzero - that’s how it sounded in my head too! 🤝
BeNice123
BeNice123 - 4/5/2024, 6:41 PM
Them Paid Subscribers need ask for their refund. 😂🤣 pathetic.
Evansly
Evansly - 4/5/2024, 6:42 PM
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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 4/5/2024, 6:44 PM
@Evansly - yep

Bizarro seems like a character up Gunn’s alley but I would rather he be saved for the future , same with Ultraman if need be.
Knightrider
Knightrider - 4/5/2024, 6:42 PM
While I don’t believe Ultraman or Bizzaro is in the movie, the fact that Lex is the main villain doesn’t rule out Superman fighting super-powered characters.

I think the plot will be similar to Birthright, where Lex manipulates people to think Superman is a villain and gets heroes to fight him
Origame
Origame - 4/5/2024, 6:51 PM
@Knightrider - superman having a public enemy style battle against green lantern and hawkgirl would be cool.
Spoken
Spoken - 4/5/2024, 7:13 PM
@Knightrider - Yeah I would love that actually.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 4/5/2024, 6:43 PM
Well , Lex is the main villain but that doesn’t mean he’s the only villain….;).

Honestly , I still think these Bizarro/Ultraman rumors are false and that Lex does create his own hero but it’s “The Engineer” instead who due to her more violent methods such as actually killing baddies is able to sway some of the public on her side and away from Superman which is what Lex wants.

I could honestly see this scene being her training and getting ready to go out into the world.

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Steel86
Steel86 - 4/5/2024, 7:31 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Thank you! Not sure why she's getting overlooked. She's literally announced and picks are out there. Not sure why people ran with the clone crap.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 4/5/2024, 7:38 PM
@Steel86 - mainly because i guess she’s an anti-hero in the comics so no one is expecting her to start off as an antagonist but I could see her maybe turning on Lex at the end or Superman showing her a better way somewhat which could lead into The Authority

Just spitballing based on bits and pieces I have gathered.
RolandD
RolandD - 4/5/2024, 6:44 PM
Thank you,James Gunn.
RolandD
RolandD - 4/5/2024, 6:44 PM
It’s so shocking that these particular scoopers got something wrong.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 4/5/2024, 7:24 PM
@RolandD - color me shocked*** (sarcastic as f*ck) I hate these Twitter hacks and want to go back to the days we're I was legitimately shocked to watch a movie
RolandD
RolandD - 4/5/2024, 7:31 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - agreed, but if you only read their predictions, you should still be shocked when you’re at the movie theater.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 4/5/2024, 8:32 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - those days are over. The reason a lot of these trailers get 8 hundred thousand views in a weekend is because people dissect every inch of every second of a trailer over and over again.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 4/5/2024, 9:49 PM
@RolandD - hahahaha that's true. They're f*cking hacks and I'm glad they are wrong most of the time. I just remember being soooo surprised back then
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 4/5/2024, 9:50 PM
@WruceBayne - people need to get a life... I get as pumped up as most for a trailer to a movie I wanna see but I want to go in with as little info as possible and with social media today it's f*cking impossible and I hate it
JackBurton1
JackBurton1 - 4/5/2024, 10:10 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - Let me just say this...ViewerAnon is legit(and that might be about it)...I know Anon(it's actually two different people on that account) ...I've met them a few times(both are a bit odd) ...they have legit sources because of who they are connected with.
LSHF
LSHF - 4/5/2024, 6:44 PM
The Debunker Gunn fires again!
DTor91
DTor91 - 4/5/2024, 6:45 PM
Surprise surprise. And yet you’ll all continue writing articles shilling for these frauds and pass it as “news.”
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 4/5/2024, 6:46 PM
@DTor91 - honestly without rumors , this site would be pretty dead most of the time.
SuperJefe
SuperJefe - 4/5/2024, 6:45 PM
I’m not sure that’s a flat out denial. He just says who the “main” villain is but we all know Lex rarely throws a punch at Supes, so there’s gotta be another villain. Especially with all the other heroes who I assume Supes will need as backup at some point.
MarkJulian
MarkJulian - 4/5/2024, 6:48 PM
@SuperJefe - The rumor before Ultraman (from these same sources) was Lex in the powersuit. But they need to come up with stuff on an almost daily basis to justify having people pay them for insider info.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 4/5/2024, 6:49 PM
@SuperJefe - yep though I am interested to why Gunn particularly chose the four heroes that he did

I could see someone like Hawkgirl (if they go with the alien origin) and Metamorpho helping him reconcile his alien heritage with his human upbringing which is apparently a theme in the film and Guy also being a human between 2 worlds…

However no clue how Terrific could fit
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 4/5/2024, 6:50 PM
@SuperJefe - This version of Lex can either end up getting his own powers like in the All-Star story or just suits up with his Lexosuit to throw hands. The latter isn't that farfetched assuming Gunn will try to be as faithful as possible.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 4/5/2024, 6:51 PM
@NinnesMBC - good theory

I could see that.
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 4/5/2024, 6:59 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Getting powers? Yes it's probably within the cards depending how much loyal to the source materials he's been inspired by to do this. If it leads to Superman saying the exact quote at the end after Lex is defeated then it would be a good wrap up to the conflict.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 4/5/2024, 7:02 PM
@NinnesMBC - yep

Given that Superman in this is suppose to be a world apprantky that finds his kindness old fashioned , I would like him talking down the enemy or convincing them then just punching whether it is Lex or The Engineer.
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 4/5/2024, 7:09 PM
@TheVisionary25 - That's what I initially suggested that could be how he deals with the clone threat if it was true so that it wasn't another big brawl and avoid comparisons to the MoS final act. It's IMO too soon to go all out in fights.

In All-Star he handled the god-like Sphinx by answering his riddle of what happens when an unstoppable forces meets an immovable object by saying they surrender. So if that was in the cards it's what I'm sticking with.

Funny enough if he does talk down a threat, it'll be like a callback to when Supergirl stopped a robbery in Season 1 after she suffered a solar flare and was powerless.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 4/5/2024, 6:47 PM
Glad to hear that - those rumors had SUCK written all over them.
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 4/5/2024, 6:48 PM
I think Richtman jumped into conclusions with the claim of this Superman clone being *the* main villain, but CWGST has proven to have a good track record (for not saying solid) when it comes to her scoops. Look no further to the ones she shared about Deadpool and Wolverine having Cassandra Nova as the main villain to begin with among other ones from the past.

So while this solidifes Lex as the big bad, the clone Superman villain (Bizarro or Ultraman) isn't exactly ruled out yet.
MarkJulian
MarkJulian - 4/5/2024, 6:53 PM
@NinnesMBC - They're right about 30% of the time. But when it's more shocking that one of your scoops turns out to be true, can you really be called a 'trusted insider.'
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 4/5/2024, 7:02 PM
@MarkJulian - It depends I guess on how consistent the scoops are. I'd call it then a leaker than an insider if that is what you mean.
MarkJulian
MarkJulian - 4/5/2024, 7:03 PM
@NinnesMBC - I think if they were doing it just for fun, I'd be a little more lenient. But they're grifters, tricking people out of money.
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 4/5/2024, 7:05 PM
@MarkJulian - Hmm true, especially when they used to outright reveal them on Twitter after getting blue checks. That's why I just lurk around on tags to look for others that did pay to see the scoops after they upload them on their own non-grifters account.
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