"One of the Greatest Superhero Movies Ever Made"? How THE FLASH Compares To RT's Highest-Rated CBMs

"One of the Greatest Superhero Movies Ever Made"? How THE FLASH Compares To RT's Highest-Rated CBMs

If certain studio executives are to be believed, The Flash is "one of the greatest superhero movies ever made." However, a quick look on Rotten Tomatoes suggests expectations have been set too high...

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By JoshWilding - Jun 16, 2023 10:06 AM EST
Filed Under: The Flash
Source: Rotten Tomatoes

"I've seen it three times. It's the best superhero movie I've ever seen." - David Zaslav, Warner Bros. CEO

"I will say here that Flash is probably one of the greatest superhero movies ever made." - James Gunn, DC Studios co-CEO

Talk about high praise, eh? Since The Flash was first screened at CinemaCon in April, Warner Bros. has attempted to create the narrative of it being a shining example of the very best this genre has to offer. Opinions are, of course, subjective, and someone's least favourite superhero movie may well be another person's all-time favourite. That's just the way it goes. 

To say these comments don't feel entirely genuine doesn't seem unfair, though, and many have already ridiculed two studio executives for trying to sell a blatantly troubled movie by telling audiences it's actually the best one ever. Gunn, in fairness, does seem mightily impressed, something that's evident from his decision to tap Andy Muschietti as The Brave and the Bold's director.

Chances are The Flash will just be a movie that divides opinion; on this site alone, you'll have seen a glowing 4* review for the film and another 2.5* verdict that really wasn't quite so kind. Both, however, agreed it's not "one of the greatest superhero movies ever made." 

As we write this, The Flash has 66% on Rotten Tomatoes. The score is likely to continue fluctuating over the next two or three days, but love or hate the review aggregator, it does make a big difference to a movie's opening weekend. 

The site recently shared a list of the 87 best superhero movies of all time according to the critical response they received. At #1 is another Multiversal adventure, Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse with 97%. Right behind is The Incredibles, the 2004 Pixar movie - that's not based on a Marvel or DC comic book - with 97%. 

In terms of the highest-rated MCU titles, you're looking at Black Panther (96%) and Avengers: Endgame (94%). Logan takes the crown for the now-Disney-owned 20th Century Fox with 94%, while critics have chosen The Dark Knight (94%) and Superman: The Movie (94%) as the best DC Comics has to offer. Oh, and the highest-rated DCEU titles? Wonder Woman (93%) with Shazam! and Gunn's own The Suicide Squad right behind it at 90%. 

Looking at both the critical response and the fact all but a couple of those are genuine classics, we can surely agree they're the best this genre has to offer, right? According to Zaslav and Gunn, though, The Flash is right there alongside them. 

That's interesting, especially when with 66%, it would fall in the bottom 10 places of this list, sitting alongside the likes of The Incredible Hulk and Thor: The Dark World

So, from a purely critical standpoint, no, The Flash is not the greatest superhero ever made. The two executives may well believe it is, as will plenty of you (and that's okay!), but this disastrous marketing decision shows just how dangerous it can be to build expectations to a certain point only to fail to deliver on them.

Ultimately, the box office will matter more than a Rotten Tomatoes score, but make no mistake about it; 95% and a "Certified Fresh" badge would have made a huge difference this weekend, especially after years of delays and the continued controversy surrounding star Ezra Miller.

Plus, when you have people heading into theaters expecting what Zaslav and Gunn have promised, only to get something else entirely, word of mouth will inevitably suffer, something we've seen kill many blockbusters when that all-important second weekend rolls around...

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bobevanz
bobevanz - 6/16/2023, 10:18 AM
It is by far the most entertaining cbm ever. Ezra was great, the score was great, the jokes and comedic timing were legit perfect, Keaton was awesome even though he didn't have a story ark, supergirl was great, the cameos were mind blowing, and the cgi was shit. All in all, it's 100000x times better than the recent Black Adam and Shazam. I'm one to critique things to hell and back, but I really enjoyed this movie. It just works. But the usual shills will say it sucked, and they didn't even watch it. The hierarchy of cbm is about to change
tmp3
tmp3 - 6/16/2023, 10:26 AM
@bobevanz - Keaton [frick]ing came to work here. Hope we can eventually see a Batman Beyond with him, nothing in this contradicts that from happening since i'm assuming he's just back in Burtonverse
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 6/16/2023, 11:16 AM
@bobevanz - I agree with most of your points. Only thing I’ll add I didn’t like here is the wooden cameos in the scene when the multiverse is colliding. They were somewhat unnecessary in their current form.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/16/2023, 12:34 PM
@tmp3 - The Burtonverse we saw doesn't seem very futuristic. I'd prefer for him to come back for a DCU Batman Beyond.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/16/2023, 12:35 PM
The movie kinda wraps up the Burtonverse timeline pretty definitively. There is no future after that.
whynot
whynot - 6/16/2023, 2:38 PM
@bobevanz - I agree 100% but I kinda enjoyed the CGI in a weird way.
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 6/16/2023, 10:19 AM
"I've seen it three times. It's the best superhero movie I've ever seen." - David Zaslav, Warner Bros. CEO

He failed to mention that the only other superhero movie he's ever seen was STEEL. 🤣
AllsGood
AllsGood - 6/16/2023, 10:19 AM
"One of the Greatest Superhero Movies Ever Made"?

vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 6/16/2023, 10:35 AM
@AllsGood - "went silent when antman quantumania bombed" 😂
AllsGood
AllsGood - 6/16/2023, 11:09 AM
@vectorsigma - Thats alright I'm enjoying two of greatest comic book movies right now with Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 and Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse. Good thing both these movies are still in the theaters for people to check out.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 6/16/2023, 10:21 AM
The first two thirds are pretty solid but even those are let down by eye gougingly bad vfx. And the film completely falls apart in the 3rd act. It is probably one of the better DCEU films but that is not saying much and marketing vastly tried to oversell this movie to its own detriment.
Dotanuki
Dotanuki - 6/16/2023, 10:57 AM
@MrDandy - I almost walked out during the first hour. Spastic Miller was too much. I was hoping that Barry did punch him in the bedroom. Those roommates were annoying as well.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 6/16/2023, 11:28 AM
@Dotanuki - Yeah stoner college Barry was pretty annoying through the entire movie. And how he is handled in the third act is not properly built up AT ALL.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/16/2023, 12:36 PM
@MrDandy - That came out of nowhere. Like absolutely nowhere.
tmp3
tmp3 - 6/16/2023, 10:23 AM
Ezra being good was a surprise, but I almost feel like all the good in the first act was undone by the third act being such a [frick]ing mess. And the cameos genuinely serve no purpose (i won't shit on the cgi since everything in the time sphere is meant to look like a video game, it is established early on). The desert fight in particular is just awful, like an AI made it, but the first set-piece that opens the movie is so much fun. Hope Gunn can tap into that wavelength from Muschietti mixed with how good he is with getting performances from kids a la It for Damian.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 6/16/2023, 11:01 AM
@tmp3

I think Muschietti's main problem with this movie is that it did play like a sizzle reel... given all the re-writes and the numerous teams involved with this movie over time - it didn't feel like it was his movie to own. The best moments in the movie to me were the opening at the coffee shop and that whole sequence, the moments between Barry and his mom and his dad (the last scene in grocery store with his mom legit brought tears to my eyes), and even the scene of older Barry freaking out over the toy I thought was great. There was so much good. Keaton's Batman moved and looked so good that (way better than how they did Affleck in the beginning, although the shots of him blasting around getting dragged by trucks were pretty sick).

So much good, a lot of bad. The end scene with **SPOILER** was also great. Pissed I had that spoiled a long time ago but I thought it would've been the mid-credit scene.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 6/16/2023, 11:05 AM
@tmp3 -

Brave and Bold having sequences like this is the move


Batman using a ridiculously over-sized Batarang.
tmp3
tmp3 - 6/16/2023, 11:09 AM
@GhostDog - @regularmovieguy - The final cameo had me DYING. It was so good I wish I didn't know it beforehand 😭
A lot better than the dead CGI people that didn't add anything. But yeah, it feels like a really messy movie but at the same time it showed a lot more of Muschietti's chops for directing than either of his 2 It's did for me - my personal theory is Gunn saw the potential there, and he's trying to mould it into something stronger with BATB

@GhostDog - After this movie, I hope Gunn pairs him with a stronger writer and also gives him a lot of studio notes to help steer him away from his worst tendencies. As far as yes man directors go, he showed a lot of stylistic flair with Flash that I hope transfers over, but please don't let the third act look like being stuck inside a CGI blender again 🙏 some ungodly bad CGI in this movie
GhostDog
GhostDog - 6/16/2023, 11:17 AM
@tmp3 - Yea Muschietti definitely has a yes-man energy to him. I saw that in this movie but there's potential for sure. His BATMAN stuff was pretty cool and can get better too. I agree, I think Gunn saw potential. Calling Andy a visionary director is CRAZY to me and that gets thrown around way too much but I guess he couldn't say "I can mold this guy and I see potential in him."
GhostDog
GhostDog - 6/16/2023, 11:20 AM
@regularmovieguy - for real this is the best description of this movie: sizzle reel.

It never felt like Muschietti's movie. It felt like a yes-man made it, which I think he is in a way but he's got a deft hand (IT). However, there were sprinkles of some really good stuff as you said, and some really, really bad.
tmp3
tmp3 - 6/16/2023, 11:32 AM
@GhostDog - The "visionary" talk is pure PR LMFAO, but yeah considering this will always be "GUNN's Batman" first and foremost I can see him having a bigger hand in the production with studio notes than some of his other DCU projects. I definitely see a scenario where he saw glimpses of what he could get from Muschietti when hiring him, and plans to guide him to fulfill his vision with enough stylistic flare.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/16/2023, 12:40 PM
@regularmovieguy - Totally agree with this take.

It was like he was a guest director in a fairly bad, long running series that nobody watched and he just used the opportunity to show what he can do.
Origame
Origame - 6/16/2023, 10:26 AM
I swear, this was your reaction to hearing them describe it as "the greatest superhero movie of all time",

Itwasme
Itwasme - 6/16/2023, 10:26 AM
Doesn't have to the best ever, I'm just hopeful I have fun watching it. Hyperbole on the internet is the norm, and people haven't learned yet that it only hurts their point.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 6/16/2023, 10:29 AM
OT

Spider-man 2 pre order queue is wild right now
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 6/16/2023, 10:34 AM
A stupid Wilding article to discredit a movie he doesnt like.

WB should start sending out DC premieres to this guy.
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 6/16/2023, 11:25 AM
@vectorsigma - This is like the 5th or 6th article he has posted crapping on this movie. It seems he has a personal vendetta against it.
ShellHead
ShellHead - 6/16/2023, 10:41 AM
The DC boys coming back to life to troll for The Flash takes me back to the BvS days on this site. I'm like that food critic at the end of Ratatouille
MrDandy
MrDandy - 6/16/2023, 10:58 AM
@ShellHead - peak CBM.com were the DC/Marvel flame wars of 2016
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