INVINCIBLE Introduces A Highly Controversial Comic Character - But Will The Show Really Go There? - SPOILERS

INVINCIBLE Introduces A Highly Controversial Comic Character - But Will The Show Really Go There? - SPOILERS

Invincible season 2, episode 7, "I'm Not Going Anywhere," is now streaming on Prime Video, and it features the animated debut of a controversial character from the comics named Anissa...

By MarkCassidy - Mar 29, 2024 01:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Invincible
Source: Via Toonado.com

Invincible has been firing on all cylinders since returning for the back-half of its second season, and the latest episode of Prime Video's adult animated series may have laid the groundwork for one of the comic book's most controversial storylines.

"I'm Not Going Anywhere" primarily focuses on Mark and Amber's crumbling relationship, and the final straw for the latter proves to be the introduction of a powerful Viltrumite warrior known as Anissa, who threatens to end Amber's life unless Invincible explains why he still hasn't set about conquering his planet (which he was commanded to do when his father, Nolan, was captured in the mid-season finale).

Anissa actually aids Mark in rescuing the passengers of a cruise ship from a Kaiju attack, but becomes frustrated when he refuses to acknowledge that the people of Earth would ultimately benefit from Viltrumite rule. A fight ensues, but it's hopelessly one-sided, and Anissa's orders are the only thing that prevent her from killing the fallen hero.

A battered and bruised Invincible returns to Amber, but they realize that it's best for both of them if they end their relationship.

Major spoilers for the comic and potentially the show follow.

Much later on in Robert Kirkman's comic run, Anissa becomes an ally and potential love interest of Mark's, but when she's tasked with replenishing the Viltrumite population after the destruction of their home world, things take a very dark turn.

Unwilling to assist Anissa in her procreation attempts, Mark is raped by the far stronger Viltrumite, who becomes pregnant with his child.

As you might imagine, there were a lot of negative reactions to this plot point, and the backlash worsened when Anissa refused to apologize or take responsibility for her actions. Will the series follow suit? A few tweaks aside, Invincible has remained mostly faithful to the source material (at least when it comes to the important storylines), but this might be a step too far - even for a TV-MA rated animated show.

If the sexual assault does happen, it probably won't be until well into season 3 at the earliest, so we'll have to wait and see how next week's season 2 finale plays out for a better idea of what's being set up.

What did you make of this episode? Do you think Anissa's arc will play out the same as it does in the comics? Drop us a comment down below.

"Still reeling from Nolan's betrayal in Season One, Mark struggles to rebuild his life. He faces a host of new threats, all while battling his greatest fear… That he might become his father without even knowing it."

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FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 3/29/2024, 1:16 PM
Oh, they’ll go there.
Taonrey
Taonrey - 3/29/2024, 3:29 PM
@FireandBlood - I don’t see why they wouldn’t , I mean we see it on tv-14 tv a lot. Shit there a tv show call law and order that has an 300+ episodes about the topic
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/30/2024, 8:39 AM
@FireandBlood - Probably but actualy showing a full on graphic rape scene likely not to my mind (as that can take a show beyond what is even allowed for standard TV-MA) so would not surprise if they do the attacked, unconscious (or at least cut away from what follows) and later revealed route and may opt for taking genetics for the purpose of making babies instead.
PC04
PC04 - 3/29/2024, 1:18 PM
Why not? Push an envelope.
TrentCrimm
TrentCrimm - 3/30/2024, 8:36 AM
@PC04 -

I've always applauded movies and tv shows that aren't afraid to touch on hushed topics like this. Men being raped isn't something that's talked about a lot, Invincible getting the conversation going would deserve some big props imo.
PC04
PC04 - 4/2/2024, 8:37 AM
@TrentCrimm - Totally agree. This is something that happens in the world. Art emulates life even in the super-hero genre.
Origame
Origame - 3/29/2024, 1:19 PM
Most important thing, amber is gone!
mountainman
mountainman - 3/29/2024, 1:37 PM
@Origame - Amber was handled much better in season 2, but I will welcome her plot thread ending.

As someone who used to travel a lot for work and stopped because I saw the impact it had on my wife, I was able to empathize with her issues with loneliness with Mark gone so much.
Origame
Origame - 3/29/2024, 1:51 PM
@mountainman - yeah. And had they left it there and had both of them think of ways to reconcile after the truth was discovered, it'd be fine.

But no. Instead they had to essentially rewrite the conflict at the last minute, having her know mark was invincible for weeks prior to the break up, then having it be about mark not telling her the secret? Despite the huge impact it would have on both of their lives after 6 months of dating? In high school? And after she lied to HIM about the reason for the break up for weeks for no reason other than pettiness? And everyone in the show instantly siding with her, giving mark no leeway in the matter or any acknowledgement amber did anything wrong? Nah. She needed to go.
mountainman
mountainman - 3/29/2024, 2:09 PM
@Origame - Don’t get me wrong. She was completely unlikes me in season 1. I’m just saying it seems like they wrote her to be more sympathetic in season 2.
mountainman
mountainman - 3/29/2024, 2:12 PM
@mountainman - *unlikable
aievilgenius
aievilgenius - 3/29/2024, 3:07 PM
@Origame - Man wasn't anything wrong with her storyline. And people being upset about a 17 year old handling a situation different than they would is crazy too. In the comics she realized he was Invincible too after talking with her friends who thought he was a jerk for always having something to do that didn't involve her, but before that she thought he was a drug dealer. On the show her figuring it out and being mad about him lying about it wasn't a reason to hate her character imo, maybe petty but idk anybody that like being lied to; plus she young so it's easy to sympathize. I do want to see how things are handled with her and Gary on the show tho; I think show Amber would react differently.
Origame
Origame - 3/29/2024, 4:01 PM
@aievilgenius - ok, dude. You're lying in general.

First of all, in the show she realizes mark lied to her weeks before breaking up with him over lying while continuing to say the problem was with him not being there. Mark had very good reasons for nor telling the truth. Her reasons were pure spite. And then the show completely sides with her.

And I don't give a f@#$ if she's 17. She's old enough to realize he wasn't exactly hit by a bus. She's old enough to understand his secret is for those closest to him, including her.

And comic amber didn't know mark was a superhero. She learned that after the omni man reveal. She actually thought mark was a drug dealer. Learning mark was invincible was what lead to them first having sex.
aievilgenius
aievilgenius - 3/30/2024, 11:27 PM
@Origame - what you wrote in your last paragraph is already in my first comment. Her finding out a few months earlier isn’t a big deal but in both versions she was irritated by him leaving her all the time even after she understood why.
Him having good reasons for not telling her, and Amber being irritated knowing she being lied to and having trust issues are 2 different things. She forgives him after realizing he was being lied to as well and was betrayed by his father. As noted by her by her attitude this season the issue she had before wasn’t him saving people but just lying to her about it.
We knew the relationship wasn’t going to last anyway so I didn’t get the hate (tho I knew some would never like her cus she’s melanated). But, I liked her more nuanced show version than the one we got in the comics.
Origame
Origame - 3/31/2024, 8:00 AM
@aievilgenius - 1) ...no. learning much later and having the news mark the first time you have sex with someone is significantly different than learning about it weeks before, lying about knowing, and having that news be the reason you break up.

And yes, her knowing weeks before changes EVERYTHING. Because now we know in a scene like after the reaniman fight, she should know mark didn't abandon them and leave them with "that thing". And again, her reason given in the episode mark reveals his identity is that "you lied to me. You made me feel stupid and unimportant".

And yes, those are two different things. But what she's expecting from mark (telling her his secret identity), is completely ridiculous. Do you realize how big of a deal it is the more people know he's invincible? Now that she has the context, she should have sympathy that mark needed to lie. But she shows none. It's not like "I know how important your identity is but I need someone to be able to commit to me", it's, "you made me feel stupid and unimportant". And when that's your only reaction to the fact your boyfriend is actively saving the world and risking his life, my only response is "lady, you are stupid and unimportant".

Amber is the kind of girl I warn my male students about, because they are selfish and need everything about themselves. If amber were my daughter I would tell her how disappointed in her I was, that she needs to apologize to that boy, and then never speak to him again. If mark were my son, I'd tell him he did nothing wrong, women like amber are toxic, and that he should stay away.

But no, you're in the camp where women can do no wrong.

Origame
Origame - 3/31/2024, 8:01 AM
@aievilgenius - and of course you gotta make this about the race swap 🙄
aievilgenius
aievilgenius - 4/1/2024, 1:35 PM
@Origame - I said some people. If that didn’t apply to you good, but don’t act like it’s nothing.
aievilgenius
aievilgenius - 4/1/2024, 1:52 PM
@Origame - naw I’m not in a women can’t be wrong camp, dude I’m married lol. Just not to look at everything in a right or wrong lens. Could they have reacted differently yeah, but she wasn’t wrong for not liking being lied to and he wasn’t wrong for not telling her. It just is what it is.
I tell my son and the youth I mentor that pretty ain’t enough. And also that your not perfect and neither is she so be forgiving when you can…when you can, don’t get walked over. That arguing all the time with yo girl stuff is for the birds.
Origame
Origame - 4/1/2024, 3:58 PM
@aievilgenius - well guess what, I didn't bring up her race swap nor did I bring up what anyone else thought of her. Just that I didn't like her, and here's why.

And no, the problem I have isn't that she doesn't like being lied to. It's that she knew about it well before the break up and lied (what she had a problem with him doing) about what the problem was. It's a double standard, it's manipulative, and it's spiteful.

Also, you may say mark wasn't wrong for lying, but the actual narrative of the show (meaning the writers) insist he was completely in the wrong, and amber was completely in the right. Mark needed to apologize to her, and as far as the show is concerned, amber only needed to forgive him. Not apologize herself.

I'm also not saying he should keep arguing with her, because you can't argue with this kind of woman. Hence my reaction being if mark were my son I'd tell him to stay far away from her.
Crtdacct2say
Crtdacct2say - 3/29/2024, 1:19 PM
They must. Their child needs to exist and it would be unlike Mark to cheat on Eve
EZBeast
EZBeast - 3/29/2024, 1:20 PM
They better! I thought it was a truly unique moment in the comics. Shocking yet fits the story and the kind off issues that can affect these characters.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 3/29/2024, 1:22 PM
I'd day they will, but it won't be graphic and possibly even happen off-screen, I've noticed the show has toned certain things down a bit... not necessarily a bad thing.
marvel72
marvel72 - 3/29/2024, 1:23 PM
Do it! Do it now. They'll probably do it off screen, they'll go so far then cut off and you will have to use your imagination for the rest.
DankMan
DankMan - 3/29/2024, 1:31 PM
@marvel72 - Nah bro, this show isn't shying away from anything. It won't be for a few seasons though
Taonrey
Taonrey - 3/29/2024, 3:30 PM
@DankMan - ehhh they will do it but they won’t show it. Even the boys didn’t show it
DankMan
DankMan - 4/3/2024, 1:03 AM
@Taonrey - What do you mean show it? The show will show everything the comic does
HermanM
HermanM - 3/29/2024, 1:26 PM
Attractive, buxom Alissa forces nerdy Mark to have sex with her, also known as the writer's thinly disguised fetish.

Someone is fapping furiously to this.
HermanM
HermanM - 3/29/2024, 1:27 PM
The way the comic illustrated this was all pretty softcore; there was never any penetration or actual nudity. So I'm sure the show will get away with it if they want to.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/29/2024, 1:33 PM
I'm not gonna read spoilers cuz I'm waiting till April 4 for the final EP before binging the rest of the season..


But I'm just gonna assume she's controversial because she's a Jewish Viltrimite?

Herman take it away!
Godzilla2000Zer
Godzilla2000Zer - 3/29/2024, 1:45 PM
It could be either way for me personally but I will say that men are victims of SA as well so it might be a good opportunity to explore that since it isn't talked about much but definitely tone it down or do it offscreen.
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 3/29/2024, 2:43 PM
I feel there are ways to depict the scene without being too graphic. Have her rip his clothes off, while the camera pans away with his screams echoing in the backround.
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 3/29/2024, 2:51 PM
Invincible (the show) depicts a lot of f*cked up stuff...but maybe r*pe is a bit too far. the show might be mostly faithful to the source material, but that doesn't mean that won't change going forward into future seasons, or that maybe they'll find another way to bring up certain plot points. "adapting" is taking what you need and discarding what you don't, so who knows.
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 3/29/2024, 2:54 PM
So, Hollywood is trying to make women "raping" men a thing now?

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Taonrey
Taonrey - 3/29/2024, 3:31 PM
@Feralwookiee -
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 3/29/2024, 4:32 PM
@Feralwookiee - :
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/30/2024, 8:59 AM
@Feralwookiee - Already is an IRL thing so...

...may not be as commonly prosecuted and thus hard to determine for certain the actual figures, but it is not unheard of (especialy since stuff like Viagra became a thing, even tho it was never impossible sans such medication).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-49057533

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/11/the-understudied-female-sexual-predator/503492/
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 3/30/2024, 9:20 AM
@Apophis71 - This is peak clownworld nonsense.🤪
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/30/2024, 9:31 AM
@Feralwookiee - Staying ignorant to published studies, reported cases and verifiable statistics is a choice, not being aware how your own body works is the height of studidity.
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 3/30/2024, 10:03 AM
@Apophis71 - Women cannot "rape" men.
You're entitled to believe this narrative, but I assure you, the vast majority of people on earth do not believe a woman is capable of "raping" a man.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/30/2024, 10:24 AM
@Feralwookiee - Your wrong, completely an uterly wrong in terms of what does occur IRL even if laws do not in all locations reflect that reality (such as UK law such an act would not fall under the statute of rape). That is not to say if it would be considered common or rare, but...

US laws have been amended to reflect that reality over time even if here in the UK they have not (that does not mean it is always taken seriously by the Police or courts obviously, prosecutions are rare).

...an erection is possible without any consent, it can occur without any psychological aspect even whilst unconscious in response to physical stimuli, or indeed even without any level of 'enjoyment', equally true with ejaculatons/orgasms, especialy now that drugs like Viagra exist.
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