Philip Tyko Watchmen Review

Philip Tyko Watchmen Review

The world looked up and shouted "would Watchmen work as a full length movie" Warner Brothers looked down and whispered "we will try our best"

Review Opinion
By CBMcontributor - Mar 03, 2009 07:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Watchmen

To start things off i brought someone who liked comic book movies but never read the book. Another friend of mine won tickets also and showed up. He on the other hand had read and enjoyed Watchmen. I decided to have a detailed talk with what was good and bad about the movie after watching it.

We went into some good detail. The movie does work not well but great as a movie. However it doesn't have enough of the background story on each character. The movie was said to take certain elements out to focus on character development but it lack back story with detail. Each hero is explained in a few words leaving so much out. The movie is missing what the book had in why did they choose to be heroes and want to continue in that path.

Most reviews are saying that Ozy was the big lacking point in the movie and was not done well. Honestly i think the actor was just ok, not as bad as most people are saying. I think his story and meanings on what happens with him were left out the most. They dont do enough to make you like the character.

Rorschach and Nite Owl 2 were performed so well just there sences to me are what made the movie so amazing to watch. The way they are portrayed as a former team and were at one time the best of friends was well done.

Dr. M was done great. Due to the fact that he is CGI it cant seem as much like he is real but thats what i think makes him so fitting in this story. His origins are the most shown but neglect to tell enough detail on how he see's what is going on in his head and whats going on with time.
I felt that Silk Spectre was done in a good way. Its good that they include enough of her background to get a sence of where she comes from but it doesn't tell about the problems she had with her mother in detail just that her mom wanted her to be a hero.

All the characters need a bit more detail put in which will hopefully be on the directors cut. The story is well done and does leave you will the same moral as the book but i would suggest reading the book before seeing the movie so your not to confused well watching.
It is a movie that is truly worth seeing if you are or are not a fan of comic books and graphic novels. It will set a good point in where comic/graphic novels movies should be.

From the fans i was unhappy with the fact that i was the only person who went to the screening dressed up as anyone. I went to the show as Rorschach and enjoyed doing so.

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xaosjerk
xaosjerk - 3/3/2009, 10:31 AM
Good review, seems really balanced. Still leaves this open for my prediction of this being my #4 favorite movie of all time (right behind LOTR 1,2,3 the books to which I just finished reading again, was like the 3rd reading I think, 1 premovies 2 postmovies)
Pierce_Highmen
Pierce_Highmen - 3/3/2009, 11:55 AM
So what happened to the talk you had with your friends after the movie? Where are their thoughts? Wasn't that the point of the article? You were goin to give us a perspective between someone who read the book, and not. Right? I mean thats what you lead me to believe with your opening.

"It will set a good point in where comic/graphic novels movies should be." I thought the original Batman or Superman did that.

With all the charater issues your stated, wouldn't it be a bad example?

I might be wrong, but isn't Ozzy the "villian"? If so, we are not supposed to like him. We are supposed to cheer when he is defeated, not cry. Right?

"The movie does work not well but great as a movie." What?????????

xaosjerk
xaosjerk - 3/3/2009, 1:40 PM
RE: pierce

on Ozy, no you're not necessarily supposed to hate ozy, it's left up to your interpretation, he's trying to do a good thing using evil means, the movie is about moral gray not black and white.

on the sentence you didn't understand it should read, the movie doesn't work well it works great.
Pierce_Highmen
Pierce_Highmen - 3/3/2009, 3:00 PM
RE: Xaosjerk

You just described the villians from any number of films. Just because he has good intentions, it doesnt excuse evil acts. So killing hundreds of thousands of people is ok, as long as you have good intentions. Please, that is evil and villiainous.

I understand the "grey area" idea. Hell I'm a huge fan of 24, and Jack Bauer is the biggest proponent of the "grey area". But he also knows whats good and whats evil. He has not stepped over into that EVIL area, yet. Sure, his interrogating techniques are alittle tough, but he gets the job done, and saves lives. Sure he has helped the villians while he is undercover. But he has never been the MAN behind the attack, if he ever becomes that guy, then he is the VILLIAN!

He also states that it would be a good thing to read the book before seeing the film, so your not confused. Well, thats not a good sign for the film. If only the fanboys will get it, then it will not do so well at the B.O. Movies that make the most money are idiot proof and easy to follow. TDK and Iron Man were good examples of that, they were great films, but they were not too complex so that the average viewer could not understand what was going on. If this one only makes people scratch their heads and ask "What the hell is goin on?". Then it might not apeal to the masses. Movies make most of their money on word of mouth, if that is not good, then neither will the box office. I.E The Incredible Hulk

As for the sentence that, "I didnt understand". That sentence, and entire post, is a mess. I dont even know if he knew what he was tring to say there. This guy needs to spell check and proof read his stuff before he posts. Sure the content is ok, but the grammer is horrible. If you are going to review a movie and post it like a pro, write it like a pro. Don't just type and hit post, take your time and make sure you dont look like an idiot. No offense.
rauchsolid
rauchsolid - 3/3/2009, 11:17 PM
It might be just me, but I have a hard time reading these reviews when those who wrote them don't take the time to edit for grammar and spelling.
xaosjerk
xaosjerk - 3/4/2009, 8:45 AM
RE: Pierce

I agree there have been many villains in this vein in movies. Also I didn't say that I found him not to be a villain. For me he is one of the villains, along with Doc, Comedian, and Rorschach. This one aught to do a better job of not leading the audience to that conclusion though, and it's going to be relative to the person watching. Also, Jack Bauer is a villain along with batman from TDK imo(TDK basically makes the case that limitless spying, lying to the public, and torture are A-ok).
Pierce_Highmen
Pierce_Highmen - 3/4/2009, 11:31 AM
RE: xasojerk

So this film is going to have 4 villians? Isn't that what everyone hated about Spiderman 3, too many villians.

I can see how Bauer can be viewed that way, because he is always going against the grain. But he is the ANTI-HERO, just like Batman. Becasue they are always chasing someone that intends to do harm to civilians. Something Jack or Batman would never do. They are not true VILLIANS, because to the ones they help they are heros. But to the ones that dont approve of their actions, they see them as villians. See the grey area. They have never put to action a plan to kill millions in the name of good. Most of what they do is the save the lives of the innocent, not take them. There is no grey area when you put a plan together to kill millions of innocents, Im sorry, and if that is what this film is tring to sell, I aint buying it.
xaosjerk
xaosjerk - 3/4/2009, 1:39 PM
RE: Pierce

your getting kind of ridiculous dude.

What sucked about spiderman 3 wasn't that it had too many villains, it was that it was written horribly, filmed horribly, acted horribly and edited horribly. It's not even useful in any discussion about what makes a plot work. ( I kind of liked where they were going but they certainly never got there, also that chick that plays spidey's love interest is like the worst actress of all time, check out her filmography sometime to see how many titles she's destroyed)

The story and film aren't trying to sell conclusions, it's selling questions. Anyway you should read the GN or just wait to watch the movie before you start thinking you know what is going to work or not work about the plot.
Pierce_Highmen
Pierce_Highmen - 3/4/2009, 4:41 PM
RE: xaosjerk

Really dude. So if Batman is the villian in TDK, what is the Joker? And if Jack Bauer is the villian in 24, what does that make Nina Myers? ANTI-HERO's are everywhere in films. You obviouly dont know what they are when you see them.

I will agree that they could have cast MJ better. If you were talking about BDH, its not her fault she was in the 2 horrible M. Night movies, those would have been horrible with any other chick in them. Maybe I need to watch SM3 again. I felt that it was not as bad as you stated. Ill agree maybe they tried to do too much. But everything came together when and where it should have.

"The story and film aren't trying to sell conclusions, it's selling questions." Thats fine, then make the trailors show that. Don't have them show all the fights and action sequences, then give us a psychological thriller or detective story. If thats what it is, sell it that way. People love that shit too.

Ok, if its selling questions. Heres one.

Is it ok to kill millions of innocent civilians, in the name of good? My answer, under any circumstance, is no. Why do you think Rorschach had a problem with the action, either squid or nuke, and threatened to expose them. Yeah, I've done my research.
localman
localman - 3/5/2009, 2:54 PM
I'm very much looking forward to this film, after reading and re-reading Watchment recently. I expect that it will lack in some character development -- it has to because you just can't cover as much ground in a film as you can in a novel or even a graphic novel. However, film lends itself to imersing the viewer in the world far more than a bood or even graphic novel can, by bringing the imagination to a realistic image.

There are no "villains" in Watchmen in the traditional sense. Watchmen takes the age old question, "Does the end justify the means?" to extreme conclusions. What Rorschach does on a small scale, Comedian does on a medium scale, and Ozzy does on a big scale. Night Owl II and Silk Spectre II aren't willing to make those tough choices at one point, so they quit. In the time of the book/movie, they then feel compelled to make that tough choice if they want to take action.
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