AGATHA ALL ALONG Showrunner On Mephisto Mention And Episode 4's Teen Reveal - SPOILERS

AGATHA ALL ALONG Showrunner On Mephisto Mention And Episode 4's Teen Reveal - SPOILERS

In a new interview, Agatha All Along showrunner Jac Schaeffer weighs in on episode's 3's Mephisto mention, as well as the most recent episode's cryptic conclusion...

By MarkCassidy - Oct 08, 2024 11:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Agatha: Coven of Chaos

As we approach the halfway point of Marvel Studios' Agatha All Along, the show is still keeping its biggest secrets under wraps - but we have been given a few hints about the real identities of mysterious characters Rio Vidal (Aubrey Plaza) and "Teen" (Joe Locke), and episode 3 even name-dropped a certain demonic sorcerer that was the basis for so much speculation in WandaVision.

Spoilers follow.

If you've been keeping up with our spoiler posts, you'll already know that Rio is actually Lady Death, and the Teen is Wanda Maximoff's son Billy, aka Wiccan. But showrunner Jac Schaeffer is not ready to confirm anything just yet.

At the end of the latest episode, Rio and Agatha appear to be about to rekindle their romantic relationship, when the former drops the bombshell that Teen is not her former lover's deceased son, Nicholas Scratch.

“I just think it’s about the dynamic between Agatha and Rio," Schaeffer tells THR, dodging a question about Teen's idenity. "At this point in the story, it’s impossible for them to find each other, and that’s the real question. Obviously, they have so much chemistry and they have so much heat, so what’s the problem? That’s really what that scene points to.”

In episode 3, Jenn Kale tells Teen some of the urban legends surrounding Scratch, mentioning that he could be an "Agent of Mephisto." Does this mean we could see the villain make an appearance at some point? Possibly, but it sounds like Schaeffer was asked to add the line by her Marvel Studios higher-ups.

"It was a conversation with executive producer Mary Livanos, [Marvel’s head of streaming] Brad [Winderbaum] and [Marvel Studios boss] Kevin [Feige], but it is a mention that is larger than me and this show. It is the larger Marvel-ness of it. So it is not about me bristling or having any kind of a reaction or agenda, mostly because that type of fevered discourse that is very, very rooted in the comics is not as interesting to me as the current story being told in the series at hand."

Even if he doesn't make his presence felt in this show, Mephisto is expected to make his MCU debut fairly soon (Ironheart, most likely), and Sacha Baron Cohen is believed to have been cast in the role.

Episode 4 of Agatha All Along is currently streaming on Disney+.

The new series focuses on Kathryn Hahn’s character, Agatha Harkness, from the acclaimed Marvel Studios’ series WandaVision, as she sets off on a dangerous, mysterious adventure filled with trials and tribulations. Showrunner Jac Schaeffer, who was the creative force behind WandaVision, directs the pilot episode.

"In Agatha All Along, the infamous Agatha Harkness finds herself down and out of power after a suspicious goth Teen helps break her free from a distorted spell. Her interest is piqued when he begs her to take him on the legendary Witches’ Road, a magical gauntlet of trials that, if survived, rewards a witch with what they’re missing. Together, Agatha and this mysterious Teen pull together a desperate coven, and set off down, down, down The Road…"

In addition to Kathryn Hahn, Agatha All Along stars Joe Locke, Sasheer Zamata, Ali Ahn, Maria Dizzia, Paul Adelstein, Miles Gutierrez-Riley, Okwui Okpokwasili, with Debra Jo Rupp, with Patti LuPone, and Aubrey Plaza. The executive producers are Kevin Feige, Louis D’Esposito, Brad Winderbaum, Mary Livanos and Jac Schaeffer. The directors for the series include Jac Schaeffer, Rachel Goldberg and Gandja Montiero.

Marvel Television’s Agatha All Along premieres September 18 at 6:00 p.m. PT/9:00 p.m. ET, with the first two episodes, exclusively on Disney+.

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thebamf
thebamf - 10/8/2024, 12:00 PM
I'm actually enjoying this show :)
6of13
6of13 - 10/8/2024, 12:07 PM
@thebamf - So am I
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/8/2024, 12:10 PM
@thebamf - same

I’m liking it!!.
TrentCrimm
TrentCrimm - 10/8/2024, 12:26 PM
@thebamf -

Same here!

It doesn't feel like I'm watching something in the MCU, for me it's just a nice change of pace to get a smaller scale story like this that isn't trying to force itself into a bigger picture, and it's just out to tell a fun story, and Agatha is a surprisingly more entertaining character than I was expecting.

I really hated on this show when it was being made but I'll happily eat crow, I'm enjoying it.
thebamf
thebamf - 10/8/2024, 12:52 PM
@TrentCrimm - I agree about hating it while being made. I originally thought it would be a terrible idea. I'm glad to be proven wrong.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 10/8/2024, 2:38 PM
@thebamf -
It's kind of good
Crtdacct2say
Crtdacct2say - 10/9/2024, 5:25 AM
@TrentCrimm - agreed. Committed to Echo, another show I was sorta iffy on when it was announced. I didn't really get why we were getting it.

Echo ended up falling flat but this is turning out to be a real hoot. It's very well paced.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 10/8/2024, 12:05 PM
I'd say the mephisto reference isn't as interesting as the story but it's bigger than the story and definitely a whoa moment for us WandaVision fans.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/8/2024, 12:27 PM
@MyCoolYoung - yeah

It does make it seem like it was recommended by Marvel that they do the name drop which given the rumors around Ironheart would make sense to set that groundwork now.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 10/8/2024, 12:28 PM
@TheVisionary25 - I also feel like it has a meta aspect to it as well. We all theorized heavily about WandaVision and who was the bunny. It 100% felt like she was us in that moment
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/8/2024, 12:28 PM
@MyCoolYoung - oh definitely

It felt like a nice wink and nod to our theories by having Jen herself theorize or speculate
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 10/8/2024, 12:11 PM
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Crtdacct2say
Crtdacct2say - 10/8/2024, 12:16 PM
Best thing marvel has put out in recent memory
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/8/2024, 12:48 PM
@Crtdacct2say -

Deadpool And Wolverine
Werewolf By Night
Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 3
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/8/2024, 12:27 PM
There’s a part of me that wishes the leaks didn’t happen but it’s also my own fault for checking them out aswell so I can only blame myself…

Anyway , I have felt Agatha’s care for “Teen” felt perhaps a bit too quick but I guess her maternal instincts kicked in again (especially if she believed he was her son) which I could buy.

Both Kathryn Hahn and Aubrey Plaza have great chemistry though and are doing well as both Agatha and “Rio”!!.

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SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 10/8/2024, 12:46 PM
I still believe that Blackheart will turn out to be Agatha's son. She traded him for the Darkhold and Mephisto corrupted him and turned him into Blackheart.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 10/8/2024, 2:41 PM
@SonOfAGif -
There is definitely more to that than meets the eye. I do think he is a malevolent actor who's using Agatha for his own means.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 10/8/2024, 4:55 PM
@Goldboink - I don't think Mephisto is using Agatha for his own means because he could have manipulated Wanda for himself. I do think that Agatha's actions are coming back to haunt her and Death has ulterior motives for her.
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/8/2024, 12:49 PM
If Mephisto shows up,I'll catch the clip on YouTube, saves me from the torture of sitting through the show.
FrankenDad
FrankenDad - 10/8/2024, 1:44 PM
@marvel72 - just run upstairs to catch it on your mom’s TV.
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/8/2024, 3:18 PM
@FrankenDad -

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JuanRGuijarro
JuanRGuijarro - 10/8/2024, 12:50 PM
Who is still watching this crap?
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/8/2024, 1:08 PM
@JuanRGuijarro - See the above comments,this lot will watch whatever crap is put in front of them.
FrankenDad
FrankenDad - 10/8/2024, 1:44 PM
@JuanRGuijarro - me.


You.
JuanRGuijarro
JuanRGuijarro - 10/8/2024, 2:10 PM
@marvel72 - poor bastard marveltards
McMurdo
McMurdo - 10/8/2024, 2:35 PM
@marvel72 - yeah these people are high
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/8/2024, 3:23 PM
@McMurdo - They must be on some good shit,I am certain that I could miss this show and I wouldn't miss a thing, nothing important will happen in this going forward.

Its not like you need to watch Agatha to follow what's going to happen in say Avengers:Doomsday or Avengers:Secret Wars.
Radders
Radders - 10/9/2024, 9:01 AM
@marvel72 - You'd miss a bunch of unlikable middle aged women, bitchin' at each other, drinking wine and singing, what more could anyone want lol
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/12/2024, 1:17 PM
@Radders - Yeah exactly, I bet I'm missing loads.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 10/8/2024, 1:17 PM
Show has been pretty good so far, it's refreshing to have a MCU project that isn't just heroes punching a villain in the face.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 10/8/2024, 1:46 PM
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RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 10/8/2024, 2:33 PM
Pleasantly surprised how good this is.
LukeCage2155
LukeCage2155 - 10/8/2024, 9:18 PM
Marvelous show!!!
Radders
Radders - 10/9/2024, 9:02 AM
Funny the Agatha threads are getting smaller and smaller lol

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