MOON KNIGHT Star Ethan Hawke Says Marvel Studios Is "Actor-Friendly" But "Might Not Be Director-Friendly"

MOON KNIGHT Star Ethan Hawke Says Marvel Studios Is "Actor-Friendly" But "Might Not Be Director-Friendly"

Moon Knight star Ethan Hawke has shared his thoughts on the negative perception older filmmakers have about MCU movies, giving his take on why Marvel Studios is a better partner to actors than directors.

By JoshWilding - Jul 19, 2022 11:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Moon Knight
Source: IndieWire

While Moon Knight wasn't quite the mind-blowing experience we'd hoped for, there's really no faulting the work we saw from its leads. Oscar Isaac delivered a pitch-perfect take on Marc Spector (and Steven Grant), while Ethan Hawke was a suitably formidable villain as Arthur Harrow...even if he didn't have quite enough screentime to fully flesh the character out.

That was an issue for Thor: Love and Thunder's Gorr the God Butcher as well, and most fans walked away from that movie feeling like it had only scratched the surface of Christian Bale's work.

During a recent interview with IndieWire, Hawke didn't talk negatively about his time working with Marvel Studios. He did, however, share a very interesting response when asked about the way the MCU is perceived by filmmakers like Martin Scorsese and Francis Ford Coppola. 

"If you keep reviewing these movies that are basically made for 14-year-olds like they’re ‘Fanny and Alexander’ or ‘Winter Light,’ then who the hell’s going to get to make ‘Winter Light’?" the actor says. "I appreciate the elder statesmen of the community reminding people not to set the bar too low. I know it makes some people think they’re stuck up, but they’re not stuck up.”

"That group of people [at Marvel] is extremely actor-friendly. They might not be director-friendly, and that could be what Scorsese and Coppola are talking about. But they love actors," Hawke continues. "When actors are excited by a part, audiences get excited about watching them. Feige understood the algorithm there, so they’re extremely respectful toward the process."

We're not sure if Hawke is referring to the directors who worked on Moon Knight, but we've seen nothing to suggest any of them clashed with Marvel Studios. However, the actor went on to explain why he didn't join the MCU with the hope of becoming a mainstay in this shared world.

"I’m not supposed to talk about it. I had to sign an NDA about dealing with them, but I’m not interested in long-term commitments. I protected myself because I didn’t know what it was going to be," he explains. "I just wanted to know what that sandbox was like. And it’s what young people are watching, so why are we going to sit there and tell them it’s not good?"

It sounds a little like Marvel Studios may be getting actors to sign NDAs so they can't talk negatively about working with them, but we don't want to misconstrue what he's saying here. Ultimately, Hawke did seem to enjoy his time working on Moon Knight, and while we can't agree with his assessment about these projects being made for 14-year-olds, the Oscar-winner makes a lot of sense.

All six episodes of Moon Knight are now streaming on Disney+.

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MachinimaMan
MachinimaMan - 7/19/2022, 11:40 AM
I think he's trying to say.......IT IS WHAT IT IS
GhostDog
GhostDog - 7/19/2022, 11:41 AM
TheLobster
TheLobster - 7/19/2022, 11:42 AM
I mean… he’s not wrong? Marvel is as hands on as it gets when it comes to “studio meddling” so most directors are not being empowered to create their full vision through and through.

This was mostly working during phase 1-3 but it’s absolutely not in phase four.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 7/19/2022, 11:46 AM
@TheLobster - you think some of the phase four directors have been given too much freedom? I keep seeing a lot of new appreciation for the first 3 phases or people saying Feige needs to meddle again.
Origame
Origame - 7/19/2022, 11:52 AM
@GhostDog - people are still meddling, just not always feige.
pmackattack
pmackattack - 7/19/2022, 11:56 AM
@TheLobster - This is an odd comment. You realize phase 1-3 was way more marvel involved than phase 4? Which makes the criticisms of marvel odd. Either you want them to hand hold or you don’t. But phase 4 has been a primarily director driven phase with necessary marvel story. This is the whole reason people are upset about the new Thor. All the sudden taika’s aesthetic is too much for everyone. But that movie is very much a Taika thing and not a marvel committee thing.
MachinimaMan
MachinimaMan - 7/19/2022, 12:04 PM
@GhostDog - It's not about freedom or not its about quantity over quality. Phase 4 is tooooo dammn big. Where as the stories for the first three phases felt self contained and always met its big end goal. Now, Phase 4 while does give us hints of its future with Kang being the villain and variants, multiverse and such...there is too much content to care or understand where it all fits.

Moon Knight is one example where yeah it's a great show but you can't say it has anything to do with MCU in the broader sense of what the overarching story is. It's just very bloated and seems too pretentious or too much believing fans are just gonna watch and not bitch. And if you do bitch, your just not a Marvel fan.

Phase 4 is OK with some of its big moments of introducing what the future of Marvel is, but I feel it is a bit too much of a prolonged epilogue. Not as bad as Phase 2 I feel but....I don't know. Just doesn't hit the same.
2050
2050 - 7/19/2022, 12:04 PM
@pmackattack - Agreed! There is such a thing a TOO much free reign for creators, especially for franchises. The idea of complete creative control sounds romantic, but it isn’t always the best direction for a movie.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 7/19/2022, 12:10 PM
@MachinimaMan - This is just what I have seen on Twitter and other sites. A modicum of people believes too much freedom has been given to some of the directors which is what some have been yearning for. I think they have definitely let the reigns off in some regards with the directors this phase but still hovering a hand where needed (seems to be a lot of cuts going on).

I do agree with you, Phase Four has A LOT of juggling plates. Maybe too many depending on how you see it. I think SDCC should shed some light on a few things, but the MCU is doing the most it has ever done. I expect an adjustment is in order given that it will take time for them to figure out how to do the tv thing just right.

Phase 4 is very "hints here and there and we left this thread dangling", but it has taken the longest to define the end goal. We shall see this weekend.
SpideyPuffsMJ
SpideyPuffsMJ - 7/19/2022, 11:42 AM
Well said. Also, just watched the Black Phone last night and not only was he fantastic in it, but just a great movie all around. No bullshit, wel-written and directed throwback scary movie without being dumb or campy. Scott Derickson nailed it.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 7/19/2022, 11:45 AM
@SpideyPuffsMJ - I really enjoyed it and found it to be more a throwback thriller than a horror film. Certainly horror elements to it.
SpideyPuffsMJ
SpideyPuffsMJ - 7/19/2022, 11:51 AM
@GhostDog - agreed. Just the word I was looking for
Dotanuki
Dotanuki - 7/19/2022, 12:08 PM
@SpideyPuffsMJ - I’m usually adverse to child actors but they all brought it. It’s amazing how unsettling that mask was.
Supersperm
Supersperm - 7/19/2022, 12:36 PM
@SpideyPuffsMJ - Scott would have made a superior Doctor Strange 2 since he's an actual real horror director.
SpideyPuffsMJ
SpideyPuffsMJ - 7/19/2022, 6:41 PM
@Supersperm - I’m with you on him dodging a bullet with Doctor Strange 2. I think it was more he probably wanted his writing partner and himself to be able to do something more standalone as a sequel to the first Strange movie, where Feige wanted Multiverse of Madness and could probably have more control over Waldron. Raimi did a great job but he was definitely working with a completely different script than Derrickson would’ve wanted
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 7/19/2022, 11:46 AM


Nature of the beast, it really is what it is...
Goldboink
Goldboink - 7/19/2022, 11:49 AM
Most directors are not auteurs and everyone knows exactly what they are getting into. That said Taika did pretty much exactly what he wanted to do with very little "interference". There is a difference between the classic studio interference and what happens with Marvel. The classic version is that a bunch of studio pricks tell you one thing and then at the end they have you make a bunch of changes that alter the meaning of the film you already made. The Marvel gang lay it all out on the table, look at dailies and are involved throughout the film. They also honor directors allowing improv provided that the overall tone and themes of the movie are what they are looking for.
Origame
Origame - 7/19/2022, 11:55 AM
@Goldboink - they don't honor them with improv (outside of Favreau but he was the first). That's more of a benefit for the actor since they have all the freedom for a scene.
Winston19
Winston19 - 7/19/2022, 11:50 AM
Marvel directs their films not the directors
Repian
Repian - 7/19/2022, 11:59 AM
@Winston19 - The directors follow the line drawn by Marvel. If there is a plan for the Mutants, Kang and the Multiverse, Feige says when and how.
pmackattack
pmackattack - 7/19/2022, 12:01 PM
@Winston19 - Raimi Taika and Zhao would like a word.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 7/19/2022, 12:20 PM
@Repian - and I'd say there's nothing wrong with it. Star Wars doesn't have that and that's why so many have issues with the sequels.

If Star Wars had a Feige steering the ship, the sequels would have been a tighter story from movie to movie. it's the whole reason the MCU works.


Every movie franchise should be doing what Marvel is doing. Having a person or team that steers the overall story of the franchise, but allowing directors to create their own vision within that framework.
Origame
Origame - 7/19/2022, 11:51 AM
Overtime I've been seeing Scorsese as having more of a leg to stand on here. Don't get me wrong, superhero movies shouldn't just go away and there are plenty of examples of great superhero media. But there has been more of a shift in quality recently. Moon knight being a prime example of this. You can hear the defense here by saying it's meant for 14 year Olds as if demographic has anything to do with quality of the product.

I blame it on marvels insistence on rushing all this content to us, from the movies to the TV shows. But that's showing that quality is secondary to pumping as much content as possible.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 7/19/2022, 12:04 PM
@Origame - or... all movies, shows, plays, podcast etc have a varying degree of good content. Everyone acts as if super hero media Is different from other media. Does Scorsese bat 1000? No. Does marvel? No.

That's why when a superhero movie or Scorsese movie is a knockout you feel it. If all movies were the greatest then every movie would be average
Origame
Origame - 7/19/2022, 12:25 PM
@MyCoolYoung - you're acting as if this phase itself hasn't been a massive shift in quality itself.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 7/19/2022, 1:07 PM
@Origame - again, quality is relative to the consumer but also no ones going to bat 1000. People loved Shang chi and loved no way home. People hated eternals. Indifferent to black widow. Mixed on dr strange and thor. You know what that sounds like to me? Everything else
Origame
Origame - 7/19/2022, 1:18 PM
@MyCoolYoung - thats true, to an extent. Let's take the ending of moon knight, where the main villain was killed offscreen. It means we have an objectively incomplete story, and not something minor. Just because someone still likes the moon knight series doesn't mean that glaring flaw isn't actually a flaw.

Also, really think on your examples. The mcu has had a history of being mostly loved and at worst being mixed reactions. So even by your example it shows the overall effect. Not to mention the lack of shows, a major component of phase 4 and generally not well received.
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