VENOM: 5 Major Mistakes The SPUMC Has Already Made With The Franchise (That It's Too Late To Fix)

VENOM: 5 Major Mistakes The SPUMC Has Already Made With The Franchise (That It's Too Late To Fix)

Sony Pictures' Universe of Marvel Characters is still in its infancy, but serious mistakes have been made with the Venom franchise that not even the upcoming Venom: Let There Be Carnage is likely to fix...

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By JoshWilding - May 20, 2021 07:05 AM EST

We know what you're thinking: only five?! 

While Venom managed to draw a large audience back in 2018, it was a critical flop that mostly disappointed comic book fans, and serious mistakes were made with the title character that not even Andy Serkis will be able to make right in this September's Venom: Let There Be Carnage

The first trailer for that movie actually pointed to the same blunders being repeated for a second time, so those of you hoping for a massive upgrade in terms of quality are likely to be disappointed. 

It could be a better movie - especially with Serkis replacing Ruben Fleischer - but had Sony not dropped the ball with Venom the first time around, we'd all be feeling way more positive about the franchise's future (especially if a team-up with Spider-Man really is somewhere on the horizon).

To take a look through this feature, simply click on the "Next" button below to see these key mistakes!
 

5. Venom Isn't Supposed To Be A Comedy Character

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The 2018 movie was full of lousy gags that only teenage boys probably found funny, and while that weirdness was embraced by some fans, who knew Eddie Brock's transformation would involve jumping into a lobster tank? 

There's absolutely nothing wrong with humour being included in even the darkest superhero movies, but it was wholly unnecessary here and horribly unfunny. We're sure there are at least a few people who were left in stitches when Venom called Eddie a "pussy," but losing the character's inner darkness was a major blunder on Sony's part. 

Looking at the trailer for Venom: Let There Be Carnage, it's apparent that the silliness has been carried over into the sequel, hence why we're getting an extended sequence with the alien making breakfast.

Who needs a Lethal Protector when Venom can sing and get on Eddie's nerves! 
 

4. Brains!

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One of the worst parts of the Venom character in any medium has always been his desire to eat brains.

While he'd threatened to eat Spider-Man's brains in the pages of Amazing Spider-Man #333, the concept was fully introduced in the pretty awful series Venom: The Hunger. With that in mind, we can't fault Sony for adhering to the source material, but as time passed, most writers moved away from the idea. 

When Mac Gargan became Venom, it returned with a vengeance, and always seemed pretty daft (why the former Scorpion would willingly allow his alien "other" to eat people was never really explained beyond it making him an even more dangerous member of the Thunderbolts). 

The movie franchise has fully embraced the whole "Braaaains!" thing, though, and it's so far made for crappy viewing, making the anti-hero significantly less complex in the process.
 

3. Making "Venom" A Separate Entity

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The Venom symbiote has always been a living, intelligent being, but it's only really in recent years that Marvel has had it become a creature who communicates with its host in conversation. 

It's an evolution of the character, though not one that's resonated with the majority of fans. Venom was at its best as a silent influence on Peter Parker and Eddie's lives, but by making it a totally separate being...well, that pretty just makes Eddie a tool used by Venom with everything the character does on screen done by the alien rather than the host. 

In the comics, Eddie bulked up and used the alien as a weapon in their shared quest to kill Spider-Man. In this iteration, Eddie is basically an unwilling passenger being taken along for the ride.

It's a crummy dynamic, and one that never really worked in Venom (and probably won't in the sequel).
 

2. Too Much Symbiote On Symbiote Action? 

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It did make sense for Venom to square off with Riot, but it feels like this franchise is repeating the mistakes of those early Iron Man movies by pitting the title hero against twisted version of himself. 

We're excited to see Carnage on screen, but can't help but wonder how closely Venom: Let There Be Carnage plans to adhere to the source material. After all, Riot actually had most of Carnage's powers, and if the overly busy design we saw in the sequel's trailer is any indication, that's forced Serkis to do something new with his powers are portrayed.

Don't believe us? The filmmaker has already said this Carnage has the power to turn into mist!

Yes, mist. Honestly, it would have been way better to pit Venom against a villain like Scorpion (who could have been outfitted with that costume by the Life Foundation), with Mac Gargan returning for revenge down the line. 
 

1. No Spider-Man

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In many ways, we're eternally grateful that Tom Holland's Spider-Man hasn't been sullied by the SPUMC and its Venom franchise. Unfortunately, a future crossover is inevitable, and we can only hope Marvel Studios has some sort of creative involvement. 

Regardless, Sony's desire to rush out a Venom movie means that the character's history with the wall-crawler was totally overlooked, robbing him of a key part of his history. 

Venom is now a generic anti-hero, and Eddie's lack of hatred for Peter Parker robs him of his transformation from villain to Lethal Protector to superhero. From a visual perspective, it also means Venom is missing that badass chest logo that it would have been amazing to see on screen. 

Maybe this will all be retconned together in a backwards way down the line. We'll see! 
 

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TocharianMonk
TocharianMonk - 5/20/2021, 7:03 AM
Plus the movie was awful.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 5/20/2021, 7:06 AM
It exists
Blergh
Blergh - 5/20/2021, 7:09 AM
1. Doing it without letting Marvel take the reins.

2. Letting Amy Pascal attempt to weasel her way into the MCU and generally keeping her employed
kazuma
kazuma - 5/20/2021, 7:12 AM
Why can't Venom be a comedic character?

Why can't Venom be a separate entity?

Why is Symbiote vs Symbiote bad?

You wouldn't be complaining about any of these if the movie was good.
Origame
Origame - 5/20/2021, 7:59 AM
@kazuma - honestly I'm convinced the people here would be defending it to no end if feige said it was in the mcu and there was an end credits scene revealing Peter was a previous host.
JustAChillDude
JustAChillDude - 5/20/2021, 9:15 AM
@Origame - No, it wouldn’t. If it was in the MCU it’d be the MCUs worst movie, no amount of fan service would save this film. Troll harder.
PapaSpank54
PapaSpank54 - 5/20/2021, 7:13 AM
Venom has a history of being something of a goofball. How many times was Venom swinging through the city singing "Strangers in the Night?" There was a Professor Hulk/Venom team up issue built around that stupid SNL Hans and Frans "pump you up!" joke.
Termin8er
Termin8er - 5/20/2021, 10:01 AM
@PapaSpank54 - that's true, but that's why you update the character from the 80s/90s. i think you could include stuff like that (strangers), but if you make it seem creepy and deranged
BrainySleep
BrainySleep - 5/20/2021, 7:16 AM
Calling it SPUMC has to be up there
FleischerSupes
FleischerSupes - 5/20/2021, 7:18 AM
It's true. And I thought SPUMC was something dirty.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 5/20/2021, 7:37 AM
@FleischerSupes - SPUMC kinda does sound like skunk, so I guess you're not wrong
NathanielX
NathanielX - 5/20/2021, 7:26 AM
"Isn't Supposed To Be A Comedy Character" like the 80% of the MCU?

Termin8er
Termin8er - 5/20/2021, 10:02 AM
@NathanielX - do you have anything constructive to say/any legitimate point that isn't lazy, generic, and painfully regurgitated?
NathanielX
NathanielX - 5/20/2021, 2:11 PM
@Termin8er - this is a hate list my comment it's appropiate.
Termin8er
Termin8er - 5/24/2021, 11:10 AM
@NathanielX - just unintelligible
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 5/20/2021, 7:32 AM
Wait, for some of these you even state that it was taken from the comics, but you personally don't like the idea. Fix the name of the article for "5 things I don't like about Venom". You just don't seem a big fan of the character in the first place. Only reasonable complaint there is the lack of Spider-Man.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 5/20/2021, 7:37 AM
So, the entirety of Venom? Got it.

Kinda wish they just continued the Amazing Spider-Man universe. Even though we might not see Garfield again, atleast we know the universe and that there is a Peter Parker.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 5/20/2021, 7:37 AM
Aside from Sony's undying thirst to ride the coattails of the MCU, I really don't understand why they wouldn't have just added a new Spider-Man into that first Venom movie as a partial antagonist to Venom in the first and second acts. Start the movie with the "breakup" between the symbiote and Spidey, have Brock function in pretty much the same manner except now Spidey's showing up all the time and that's causing the Symbiote to force Eddie into crazy fights he doesn't want to be a part of. At the end you can have Spidey get beat and Venom saves him yada yada yada. That movie writes itself and easily makes more money, plus it actually makes everything much more interesting and fresh
grif
grif - 5/20/2021, 7:39 AM
i really dont like the first one. no second chances here. not even watching the trailer
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 5/20/2021, 7:40 AM
Now that I think about it, what does SPUMC even stand for?
BB8ANG
BB8ANG - 5/20/2021, 7:50 AM
@bkmeijer - "Sony Pictures Universe of Marvel Characters". I can't believe they couldn't come up with anything better than this.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 5/20/2021, 8:18 AM
@Jahleel007 @Waddles - Kinda though it stood for SPider-Man Universe of Marvel Cinematic. I feel like a fool, but in part I do blame Sony for lack of a better name
Termin8er
Termin8er - 5/20/2021, 10:03 AM
@Jahleel007 - it's sony. the only time they've surprised me was Into the Spider Verse
xHollywoodx
xHollywoodx - 5/20/2021, 7:50 AM
SPUMC is a stupid name. But I'm not sure there is a better one. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Anyone have any good ideas?
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