Are you a real X-Men fan?

Amen. Personally, I enjoyed the X-Men movies. I'm not like a super huge fan, but I read the comics and have seen all the movies and I'll tell ya what I'd like to see. Trask from the 3rd movie develope into a villain and have the Sentinels created to wreak some havoc. Not only that, but how cinematically badass would it be to have Apocalypse show up and tear Angels wings off and force him into the Horsemen. That would be killer. Archangel anyone?

@joshw24: Costumes fall under the category of things easily fixed. Each new X-Movie gives another opportunity to finally put some color to the team. While Sabertooth wasn't very vocal in X1, there were a few scenes, at least 2, in which it was clear that Sabertooth knew who Wolverine was. An X4 'Mutant Massacre'* could give another chance to bring Sabertooth back into the franchise and allow Liev to play him again(with some added animal features to show his embrace of his inner rage and in keeping with a look that seems progressive) Not every character requires an in depth introduction. Colossus was in X2 and Shadowcat was in all 3(though as a different actress each time) being setup as supporting characters. Your right about the corny climax in X1, but if you remember correctly, X1 is what started this whole modern age of Comic Movies and Fox was taking a chance on something unproven, so naturally they didn't throw piles of money at it, initially. On Magneto, it's time for an X-flic with another antagonist.

In the above paragraph you state how some X-Men didn't get proper introductions in the trilogy, yet in this paragraph, you say X2 didn't introduce enough. It was because of all the time spent developing Nightcrawler and incorporating him into the story that little was left for others, yet in X3, they spare the lengthy involvement to put a few extra's on the team. So which is it bud, not enough introduction or too much?

Everything done in the 3rd film can be fixed in X4. Cyclops and Jean could be brought back, Juggernaut can still be Xaviers step brother, no that was not Blob in the mutant meeting, the cure undone easily, all this and more of X3 can be fixed and by pulling it back into the source material. The Cyke and Jean situation even open a unique opportunity to use another comic story.

I agree, they should have put more time in parallel plot development, setting up new characters. A new villain PLEASE. I don't want to see anymore Magneto. There is a whole pantheon of rogues to battle the X-Men, lets pull them out! Sentinels would have definitely been in X2. Stryker could have just as easily been working with Trask to create Sentinels as opposed to the complicated method he chose.

There is nothing about these films that is so bad they can't be made better by continuing with this continuity. Not to be rude, but I saw the movies as well, lol, the goal of this article is more to explain specific moments in the movies which some fans think deviated from the source when a majority of these occurrence's can either be linked through the source, reigned back to the source, or in some cases didn't deviate at all. Pick an instance or two which you feel were pivotal to the franchise downfall and I will be able to better explain my point.

Kinda off the subject but i wish Nightcrawler never left between 2 and 3 even thou i think he did in the comics lol "i think" thats just hopw good of a fan iam lol

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Myth i completely agree with you i am a huge fan of the x-men movies, comic and old TV show. the only real beef i have ever had with the x-men movies was some of the cast choices like hallie berry as storm she never did fit te part for me she had the beauty and height but not the voice and my only real beef with x-three besides hallie berry and her too much screen time ,i mean i do know that storm is second in command after scott, but like i said before i hate hallie berry. anyway the only beef i had with x-3 was collosus only having a few lines and not having his russian accent that was actually my only problems.

HOW CAN GAMBIT HAVE MET WOLVERINE BEFORE THEY WERE IN THE X-MEN? and also how come they had wolverine lose his memory from being shot in the head when (i was pretty sure) he lost his memory just because of his getting the adamantium and all that?

@dogchasingcars: I'm with you on the Colossus deal, basically because he is my second favorite X-Man after Gambit. The accent and screen time issue could easily be addressed in later movies. As far as correcting the accent, they could do it subtly but never as thick because of how he is portrayed in X2 and X3, as he didn't have many lines anyway, nor were they very long. I would liken it to the Colossus who appeared in Astonishing X-Men when it was revealed he was alive after many years of being 'deceased'. I'm glad you recognize this as a personal issue and not as a franchise sinking catastrophe ;)

joshw24: it's cool bud, I once wrote an entire article that I lost before posting cause my Internet crashed. Just so you all know, his post wasn't a pandering retardation, but contained many good points, which is why I replied with such detail.

HUSoldier: Aspects of Gambits own origin were simply condensed into this story, as some events bear striking similarities between the 2 characters. First, on Gambits first mission with the Thieves Guild, he was to accompany and assist his cousin, Etienne, in an effort to steal an item for the 'Tilling' During this mission, Remy and Etienne are captured and Gambit is sent to a mutant slaver and imprisoned (sound familiar to his capture and stay in Strykers lab) While escaping, his cousin was killed(escaping a mutant prison...) Gambit remained with the Guild and was eventually trusted enough to be sent on his first solo mission, to steal a necklace called the Charmers Star, i think it was called. Gambit elects to seduce the items owner, a woman named Genevive(can't remember her last name) in order to get close enough to steal the item. Unbeknownst to Gambit, another party had sent their own agent after the item, the agent was a man named Victor Creed. Victor waited for Gambit to steal the item, then kidnapped Genevive and Henri Marcinieux(a friend of Gambit) and coerced gambit into giving him the item, resulting in the death of Genevive. Gambit was about 21 when this happened, long before he ever met the X-Men. The purpose of that brief was to show while Gambit had never met Wolverine pre X-Men, he did know Sabertooth, quite well actually, and that story is only the first of Gambit and Sabertooths interaction before Gambit joined the X-Men. Want more justification for his link in this movie, how about Wolverine and Gambit's own personal interactions in comics. The two characters are undoubtedly the most popular X-Men in comics, Wolverine being #1 in this I concede. These 2 have always been portrayed as competitive rivals, and while a small level of distrust exists between them, they know one can count on the other in a pinch. The dynamic between the 2 even spawned it's own mini series in the mid-90's called "Wolverine & Gambit: Victims" Point here being, Gambits interaction with Wolverine is as important as his relationship with Rogue, Bishop, or Storm. It's a more personal relationship than with other X-Men, whether a good or bad one.

the adamantium bullet thing sucks, as adamantium is exactly that, indestructible, but not impervious to magnetic forces(this has often been portrayed in the comics) nothing can puncture, break, melt, freeze, or otherwise destroy it once processed then cooled. As for adamantium bullets themselves... they do exist in comics, though more for the purpose of piercing the skin of characters like the Hulk and Luke Cage. While the impact of one on Logans skull from a .44 mag would certainly lay him flat out on his backside, it wouldn't pierce his skull to then ricochet within his braincase, scrambling grey matter like eggs. It has however been shown that this effect applies in the comics and can seriously mess Wolverine up(read World War Hulk when Hulk holds him by his arms and pounds his head til Wolverine looks retarded, Hulk noting this as he beat him, then hurling him into a treeline) but this doesn't effect his memory, just scrambles his mind(literally) for a time. If Stryker had fire a few into Wolverines eye sockets, however, this plot idea becomes somewhat more viable, while certainly not from the source. The reason for his memory loss has been portrayed several ways in comics. Until most recently, it was thought his memory loss was a result of his healing factor. I read just a few weeks ago that Professor Xavier wiped Wolverines memory, as Wolverine tried to kill him when they first met. Wolverine knows this and actually thanked Charles, as it "...gave me a chance to become a Hero." How do you like them apples.

@joob234--storm did it.lol

I think the problem with the X-franchise is not that so many died in X3 or the discrepancies in wolverine. Its that in order to "fix" what has been done or bring so many back from the dead would be LAME. Can you imagine? Explaining that much in the beginning of a film? It would kill itself.

In comics, characters come back from the dead all the time. The difference is that all those rising dead are spread out through many issues in between.

I want to say it cant be done. Making an X4 in the continuity of the first 3 is not an easy task.

you tell em themyth!

This is a little off subject. But, a buddy of mine is in a deeply intellectual conversation over who he can beat Gambit. His friend is a die hard X-men fan and will not admit to anyone being able to beat gambit. I know your a huge Gambit fan. But, I figured you could have a few names to throw out there. I said Vulcan. I really think he could take him or atleast throw down pretty hardcore against him.

Okay I just watched X1-3 now and I found another misake. When Wolverine had a X-ray in X-men 1 the bullets were not there. well, myth let's see if you can link that.

@joslezio85: If you take away the hero/villain complex and pit Gambit against just about anyone he would win. There was even a story after Gambit was tried for he Mutant Massacre when an entity named the New Sun appeared for a while, he turned out to be a Gambit from another reality whose powers had grown beyond his control and he had literally burned away every living thing on the planet in his reality. In the mainstream universe, Gambit had actually had to seek out a geneticist to help him dampen his steadily increasing powers. at this time he could charge objects with shear line of sight, but the overflow of kinetic energy would often cause objects in his vacinity to explode without warning. He eventually met Sinister, who performed a procedure on Gambit to dampen his power so that he could control it. This is why Gambit was endebted to Sinister. Gambit at full power is an Omega level mutant capable of complete planetary destruction. Jean Grey, Storm, Jubilee, and Iceman, and potentially Rogue(given her powers of absorption) are also in this status among a few others if they would drop the hero complex and realize their true power. While Vulcan is wildly powerful, he is not powerful enough to individually destroy on such an epic scale. In terms of raw power, while Vulcan is still relatively new and hasn't been established as his brothers, Havok has him beat. I say this because it seems Vulcan has more of an energy manipulation ability rather than manifestation or transmutation, though I can't honestly prove that yet as a lot of information regarding the extent of his abilities just isn't there yet. What makes characters like Vulcan seem so powerful is the villain complex, the disregard for the needs/wants/safety of others and blind ambition to achieve a goal, typically self serving, through any means. Simply put, characters like this embrace their power and relish the use of it, while heroes are more reluctant which makes them weaker in a way.

@dellamorte1872: Iceman is probably one of the most difficult to kill characters in Marvel U, including the likes of DP and Wolverine. If you throw down the gauntlet and both characters are out for the death of the other, Wolverine and Marrow are dead before they take their first step against Gambit, Emma wouldn't last much longer, as his powers make his mind nearly impossible to penetrate, even by psychics as powerful as Professor X and Jean Grey. Iceman and Gambit in a Deathmatch of supreme power, I can't call that one it'd be a toss up.

@rockingrich1webb: Absence of bullets in Logans braincase in X1: They were a foreign element not bonded to his body, therefore his healing factor purged them from his body over the course of several years. That work for you? Regarding young mutants in X-Origins Wolverine: The one bungee strapped in the cage 'vibrating' was indeed Quicksilver. The mutant with a tongue actually had a green tint to his skin and was most probably Toad. Banshee, Riptide, St. Croix twins, and Fever Pitch are other noteables(though Toad and Fever Pitch might not actually be who I think they are)

I am sorry Myth, did you just put Jubilee in the possible Omega mutants category? I also am a reader from childhood (now 23) and I definitely have to disagree with you there. She is not a "potential" case. Her powers are as powerful as they are going to get. Oh wait, she doesn't have them anymore LOL.

And yes, if Gambit hadn't had his powers dampened he would be one of the most powerful mutants alive. But the whole planet would also have been destroyed most likely, so it wouldn't have mattered. As he is right now, he is middle-tier at best and Wolverine could take him down with almost no trouble.

That page in WWH was one of my favorite moments in comics.

Also, "I came to hear you scream." Classic.

Also, Iceman has been told many times that he has the potential to be the most powerful mutant on the planet. I mean when he shut down Sunfire's powers on the molecular level in Messiah Complex, I had a nerdgasm.

I have enjoyed all the X movies and hope they keep feeding me more.

IF YOUR A REAL X-MEN FAN ; ) YOU KNOW WOLVERINE WAS A LAME A$$ B MOVIE HOLLYWOOD DISASTER OF A TRAIN WRECK!!!

The Actors 10 out of 10!!! ; )

I think they will put Storm in the First Class movie. The trilogy set it up that she's been at the mansion, forever...

i like the movies too for the most part, but what about this x men first class movie i hear about, a young cyclops, beast, and jean grey, what about iceman and angel?? they introduced the xmen at wrong times, making some younger than others even though in the comic they had been around the longest. Since they already screwed that up and there is no logical way to fix it, they shouldnt do anymore prequals, make a part 4 and go huge, do the age of apacolypse story, see angel become arcangel, more colossus, bring back nightcrawler, see iceman really use his powers, building bridges in frozen state, introduce bishop and cable, and i know it probably doesnt translate over to film very well, but i know alot of the die hard fans would like to see wolerine in costume just once! maybe change the colors or something.

Oh and yes, Watchman did it (to a degree), but Watchman was part of a limited run that fit nicely in a single graphic novel, so you cant apply that to more established comics like X-Men.