DARK PHOENIX Director Simon Kinberg On The Difficulties Of Turning A Two-Part Story Into A Single Film

DARK PHOENIX Director Simon Kinberg On The Difficulties Of Turning A Two-Part Story Into A Single Film

Dark Phoenix bombed at the box office and was a critical flop, and director Simon Kinberg has now addressed what went wrong with the movie and whether there's a "Kinberg Cut" featuring his original vision.

By JoshWilding - May 27, 2020 11:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Dark Phoenix
Source: IGN

A week ago, we learned that Zack Snyder's Justice League will debut on HBO Max next year, and we've since heard a lot about other possible Director's Cuts (Suicide Squad, for example). However, those of you hoping for a "Kinberg Cut" of Dark Phoenix are likely to be sorely disappointed. 

During a recent chat with IGN, director Simon Kinberg was asked whether his original vision for Fox's final X-Men film is something we could one say see as it's no secret it underwent major changes with reshoots. The filmmaker acknowledged that it's unlikely to happen (try, "never going to happen"), and explained that the main problem was taking a two-part idea and cramming it into a single film.

"The movie they released was ultimately my vision for the film," Kinberg explained. "That vision did change over the span of making the movie. There are other scenes that we shot, just as there are a lot of other scenes in [Days of Future Past] that we shot and didn't end up using. There were scenes we shot for that film and an ending that was quite different than the ending that was in the theatrical release."

"To release [a Kinberg Cut], it wouldn't be just be like we splice those scenes back in, because those scenes were never completed because of visual effects and sound - all of the technical aspects that go into completing films of this scale. It would take a whole lot of work, but I appreciate the support."

"With every movie, there are things you wish you did differently," he continued, reflecting on Dark Phoenix's failings. "On every movie there are things you thought were great and perfect, and then you watch them and didn't think they were as strong as you imagined and you go a different way. Dark Phoenix was a hard movie because, in its initial concept when I wrote it, it was meant to be a two-part film. And then it suddenly became a one-part movie for reasons that weren't of my doing. Having to create around that massive change was a challenge in itself. All these movies are uniquely challenging."

He concluded by saying, "When you're making a film as a writer, it's never the same as when you conceived it. And when you make a film as a director, it's never the same as what you shot. In that case it's probably more significantly different. But ultimately, I was happy with the cut... that we shot and edited and completed."

It definitely would have been interesting to see how much Dark Phoenix would have differed had the story been given room to breathe over two movies, while we know a lot of cosmic elements were removed and replaced with that train sequence. Ultimately, however, it was a big mistake of Fox's to put the franchise in Kinberg's hands, as he clearly struggled as a first-time director. 

Are you rooting for a "Kinberg Cut" of the critically panned X-Men movie?

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marvel72
marvel72 - 5/27/2020, 11:46 AM
It would have still been crap just making it longer doesn't make it better.
massdeath
massdeath - 5/27/2020, 11:46 AM
So that’s the gimmick now? Every god awful movie secretly has a totally perfect director’s cut somewhere in the big bad studio’s vault? Forgive me if I don’t buy it.
dracula
dracula - 5/27/2020, 12:26 PM
@massdeath - only alternate cut id be interested in seeing is Crow City Of Angel, only because it was suppose to be very different from the first film out of respect for Brandon Lee, then it was edited to be more like the first film. Not saying it would be any better, but would be interesting to see how they would have expanded the mythos and the crow's powers.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 5/27/2020, 12:26 PM
@massdeath - "To release [a Kinberg Cut], it wouldn't be just be like we splice those scenes back in"

"But ultimately, I was happy with the cut... that we shot and edited and completed."

How did you interpret this article the way that you did?
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 5/27/2020, 1:06 PM
@massdeath - I agree WB is inadvertently reviving the terrible dvd days when every action or comedy movie had an "Unrated or Extended Cut" that was most often just a frame to 1 or 5 minutes longer. Waste of money and time for the consumers who already owned a copy.
JonC
JonC - 5/27/2020, 2:59 PM
@massdeath - No, the director's cut is just the 'hot topic' right now... next wk it will be something else.
I will say though, if a director plans on making a movie that is a 2 part story over 2 film releases... make sure it is in your contract so that it doesn't became a music video or some other variation not intended.
Origame
Origame - 5/27/2020, 7:20 PM
@Ryguy88 - by not reading it, making assumptions based on the title, and going straight to the comments section thats how. Like all angry haters do.
Origame
Origame - 5/27/2020, 7:23 PM
@mastakilla39 - i really dont see the problem here. Most casuals will know that the movies more or less the same. Only people who are getting an extended copy are those who didnt bother getting the original dvd release or fans who actually care to see those deleted scenes. And we're still getting those extended versions so i dont know where you're getting this "back to those days" thing.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 5/28/2020, 9:05 AM
@Origame - And the drones are out in full force agreeing with him.
Origame
Origame - 5/28/2020, 9:27 AM
@Ryguy88 - now lets be fair here. Drones have an excuse to be ignorant of the article.
manofillintent1
manofillintent1 - 5/27/2020, 11:47 AM
Now everybody is gonna have a cut, this Snyder cut has opened a can of worms
dracula
dracula - 5/27/2020, 12:26 PM
@manofillintent1 - Wonder how long it will be before people demand the Schumacher cut of batman and robin
GhostDog
GhostDog - 5/27/2020, 11:51 AM
The Snyder Cut has bitten us in the ass twice now. Ayer Cut and now this.

We’re all out of ass cheeks.
dracula
dracula - 5/27/2020, 12:30 PM
@BlackBeltJones - also paul feig
GhostDog
GhostDog - 5/27/2020, 1:10 PM
@dracula - forgot about him.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 5/27/2020, 11:52 AM
Making this movie any longer would be the UTMOST SUFFERING I WOULDN’T WISH ON MY WORST ENEMY.
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