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defenderofthefaith
defenderofthefaith - 2/28/2023, 11:02 AM
More negativity on CBM. What a shock.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/28/2023, 11:03 AM
Let's take a small world, low level entertainment like the ant man movies, and let's add grandiose crazy multiverse stakes because we need to hype the future movies. It makes so much sense.. oh and in the end nothing changed, lol they assume everyone who watches these is a dumb ass kid now? I know the answer, but I won't tell you because I need the plot to happen.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 2/28/2023, 11:10 AM
Well I guess Marvel is failing for making us wait to find out the answers to Josh’s questions.
DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 2/28/2023, 11:10 AM
Enough with this movie already. It sucks. Move on.
Usernametaken
Usernametaken - 2/28/2023, 6:55 PM
@DudeGuy - don’t worry, a little more than 2weeks to wait and we’ll be able to dump on Shazam next.
Frshcoupe
Frshcoupe - 3/22/2023, 7:27 AM
@Usernametaken - this aged very well.
Usernametaken
Usernametaken - 3/22/2023, 11:23 AM
@Frshcoupe - The trailers were pretty telling on what to expect.
braunermegda
braunermegda - 2/28/2023, 11:13 AM
Why not wait, right? Why wait for something that just started and probably will be answered down the line, but no, let josh make another list absolutely no one ever asked for because everyone knows this crap will eventually be unfolded
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 2/28/2023, 11:15 AM
Kang does both as HWR and Kang said

They don’t view time the same way normal people do due to their travels

The multiverse and time to them are one and the same (which the MCU is saying as well) , waiting to be molded to their whim
Usernametaken
Usernametaken - 2/28/2023, 6:57 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - so like Dr Manhattan in the Watchmen TV show, with the difference being that Watchmen was amazing.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 2/28/2023, 9:07 PM
@Usernametaken - without the omnipotence. He’s just seen a lot also 31st century knowledge (we’d look like genius aliens to people in 1023 too)
JuanRGuijarro
JuanRGuijarro - 2/28/2023, 11:16 AM
As much as the marveltards on this site insist on saying otherwise. Changing from a 3 meter alien God from an unknown civilization, to a mere human being with "quantum power" magic science as the villain to defeat is just stupid. people don't care
JuanRGuijarro
JuanRGuijarro - 2/28/2023, 11:18 AM
@JuanRGuijarro - the next big bad should have been Doom, Galactus or Scarlet witch. Not the stupid Rick and Morty Kang
OmegaBlack13
OmegaBlack13 - 2/28/2023, 11:53 AM
@JuanRGuijarro - I do agree that making Kang’s abilities more tactile and less “My suit can do whatever I want because TECHNOLOGY” would help.
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 2/28/2023, 11:19 AM
Considering they have two whole Phases to finish telling this story, cozy on up.

Usernametaken
Usernametaken - 2/28/2023, 7:00 PM
@MosquitoFarmer - kang, variants, cameos and multiverse until everybody pukes.
And with Spider-Man Accross the Universe and Flash coming next, there is no way we’ll get tired of these tropes by the times the those phases ends.
Right?
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 2/28/2023, 11:55 PM
@Usernametaken - It's fine that these Multiversal shenanigans have already gotten old for you in these wildly spoiled times...

NoobNoob
NoobNoob - 2/28/2023, 11:21 AM
"Does He Travel Time Or The Multiverse?" i believe i can explain this...

its mostly like the buttlerfly effect, if you travel back and change one simple thing it could change the whole history as we know it, specially knowing that the MCU time travel has that continuity, so, if Kang do time travel, he will also travel on the multiverse
NoobNoob
NoobNoob - 2/28/2023, 11:30 AM
@NoobNoob - for example:
1 kang decided to time travel on may 2022, but there is a future version of kang that didnt travel on may and dediced to travel in june on the same year... you have now two variants and two alternate timelines, and those alternate timelines created a whole new universe cause it changed the course of history itself, so ...multiverse, changing one simple thing in history could change the sex of spiderman to the evolution of the primate on a universe of anthropomorphic pigs
BassMan
BassMan - 2/28/2023, 11:51 AM
@NoobNoob - This guy gets it 😉
JuanRGuijarro
JuanRGuijarro - 2/28/2023, 12:53 PM
@NoobNoob - And then Gokuh arrives and beats everyone because "multiverse"... It's even stupid trying to find logic in this nerdy nonsense
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/28/2023, 2:32 PM
@NoobNoob - yeah, that's pretty much it.

Ofcourse time travel isn't the only way a branch is created though. Even without that timetravel interference, one thing can change.

A thing, like a choice, always has more than outcome. And isntead of one outcome happening, all outcomes happen and each metaphysically branches off
NoobNoob
NoobNoob - 2/28/2023, 8:26 PM
@bkmeijer1 - yeah, even thing that had a low rate of replication, like "the same spermatozoon fertilizes the egg" i mean, how reproductible is that? a high rate of creating a new persona with new factions and gender
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/1/2023, 3:46 AM
@NoobNoob - exactly. And that's how you get a Sylvie and a Loki. Pretty much everything is a quantum system.
TheWinkler
TheWinkler - 2/28/2023, 11:21 AM
First two points are answered pretty simply, as he is just an incredibly powerful multiverse-centric being. Seeing as the Quantum realm is a gateway to time travel and the multiverse, it's all pretty easy to click those together.

Next three are literally questions to be answered in future appearances.

DannRamm113
DannRamm113 - 2/28/2023, 11:24 AM
Majors is a hell of an actor tho

Just saw Creed 3 last night…he might be my favorite villain from the Rocky Franchise, and definitely from the Creed movies alone
99OPTIMISTPRIME
99OPTIMISTPRIME - 2/28/2023, 11:24 AM
Damn is he this convoluted in the comics?🤣 I hope they tease Galactus soon.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 2/28/2023, 11:36 AM
@99OPTIMISTPRIME - yes, which is why it’s funny people complain cause this was inevitable as soon as they introduced him , time travel and multiverse

But this is also what we all asked for
TheLobster
TheLobster - 2/28/2023, 11:28 AM
It’s quite an achievement when you get an actor as amazing as Majors and still manage to make their character feel forgettable.

Good job Peyton!
Origame
Origame - 2/28/2023, 11:35 AM
Ok, as someone who's been very critical of the mcu, these are just terrible points.

5) he's both. It's established the different dimensions of the multiverse are timeline variations. So by traveling to, say, the past, it creates a minor branch in the timeline that's no less a different universe than the paint universe.

4) neither. He who remains is his own variant. It's possible we might see how that Kang came to be, but he's still his own variant.

3) he's clearly dead. This could not be more obvious. Kang is ultimately a human, albeit a very smart one. And he had no tech to keep him safe from that.

2) and 1) these are both questions left open for follow ups. Not something that doesn't make sense.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 2/28/2023, 11:37 AM
@Origame - is the time #5 we agree ? I think so

Anyway I say point 4 is up in the air cause there are ways he could be a different one or the younger version (assuming he isn’t dead)
Origame
Origame - 2/28/2023, 11:45 AM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - except according to the logic of the multiverse and time travel, he's still a variant.

That's why the prime Kang is such a big deal. He's the one all the other variants derive from.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 2/28/2023, 11:47 AM
@Origame - but he could be the younger version of HWR who starts out pruning timelines himself prior to the TVA considering we only met him at the end

But then i guess HWR said he was part of the war and used alioth who this kang doesn’t have so maybe not

Open to either it ultimately doesn’t matter
Origame
Origame - 2/28/2023, 11:53 AM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - yes you see that though. Him not having alioth is what makes him a variant.

But even then, it's established simply entering a different time alone creates a branch timeline. So in endgame when they traveled to the battle of new York, you'd get a different variant of Spiderman, even though he and the main counterpart won't have any meaningful differences.
ptick
ptick - 2/28/2023, 11:38 AM
The multiverse and time travel are one and the same in the MCU. Every variant universe is a butterfly-effect variant. HWR was pruning those branches (or letting Rogers do so, in the case of Endgame). Sylvie took him off the table.

Now, this seems to contradict the first Doctor Strange movie, which does talk about a multiverse independent of butterfly-effect timeline splintering. But the other "universes" actually explored in that movie seem to be more of what we'd call alternate dimensions outside of what we'd think of as the "MCU Multiverse." I'd posit that the Quantum Realm fits in with those "dimensions" as well.
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