Neither Tom Holland Nor Chris Pratt Are Expected To Appear In AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY - Here's Why

Neither Tom Holland Nor Chris Pratt Are Expected To Appear In AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY - Here's Why

Following the big Avengers: Doomsday cast reveal, a new report offers a few intriguing updates, including the fact that neither Tom Holland nor Chris Pratt are set to return as Spider-Man and Star-Lord.

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By JoshWilding - Mar 27, 2025 08:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Doomsday
Source: The InSneider

Yesterday, Marvel Studios had us all watching a video of chairs for five and a half hours. On the plus side, we now know who will lead the cast of Avengers: Doomsday, but there were some glaring omissions.

Rumour has it that another wave of announcements is on the horizon, something Jeff Sneider addressed in the latest edition of his newsletter. 

While Avengers: Doomsday has begun production, he points out that the script isn't 100% locked because "some of the actors in Marvel's massive stable are still figuring out their summer shooting schedules."

The report explains that Chris Pratt will not reprise his role as the Legendary Star-Lord because he's booked to shoot season 2 of Prime Video's The Terminal List over the coming months.

"However, if the Russos can catch him at the tail end of shooting, he might be able to swing it - it just depends on a variety of factors," Sneider explains, "but if Marvel needs to proceed without him, it is more than prepared to do so." 

The biggest shocker is that the insider has heard that Tom Holland won't be part of the Avengers: Doomsday cast. While he's busy with The Odyssey and Spider-Man 4, the web-slinger's absence is "more about the character’s schedule." Why? Spider-Man 4 supposedly takes place at the same time as the next Avengers movie. 

This potentially opens the door to us getting a street-level story set on Earth-616 rather than yet another Multiversal adventure.

Spidey being busy in New York feels like the perfect way to explain why he's not helping to battle Doctor Doom. Plus, Marvel Studios can have its cake and eat it too by potentially trying Spider-Man 4's final act into what we'll have seen months earlier in Doomsday, meaning we'll start street-level and later enter the Multiverse of Madness. 

Still, this contradicts previous reports about Holland being Avengers: Doomsday's lead. 

Other tidbits include continued rumblings about the Russo Brothers directing Marvel Studios' X-Men reboot, and the Fantastic Four and Thunderbolts (who Sneider claims are the New Avengers) "[getting] big minutes in future MCU movies." 

Sneider also says that he's heard the Thunderbolts* movie is "pretty good" and that internal screenings of The Fantastic Four: First Steps have begun. And yes, "execs are said to be a little nervous about Doomsday." However, it's less down to The Electric State bombing and more a result of the high expectations surrounding an Avengers movie and it having to face superhero fatigue. 

Avengers: Doomsday is set to be released in May 2026, with Avengers: Secret Wars scheduled to arrive in May 2027. 

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slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 3/27/2025, 8:22 AM
It’d be a dumb move not to include Spiderman. I’m going to guess he’s in it regardless of what “rumors” and made up BS says.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/27/2025, 9:14 AM
@slickrickdesigns - Whilst nobody knows who Spider-man is narratively be dumb for him to have more than a cameo appearance suited up the entire time. I get that his absence could impact BO but then I'd argue RDJ more than makes up for that and as Peter's solo is the very next film Spidey fans will tend to feel the need to check out Doomsday as required prep for SM4 and suspecting he could turn up anyway even if only an end credit scene.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 3/27/2025, 9:30 AM
@Apophis71 - they haven’t announced the full cast yet so let’s hold our horses on whether Spiderman is in it or even needed (for box office?)
I doubt they care about what Holland ads to box office for an Avengers film but narratively it makes more sense to include Spiderman as he’s been kind of the tentpole of this whole Miltiverse debacle. Plus Peter and Tony have the most history. It’d probably hit harder for Peter to see his mentor as a ruthless anti hero/ villain.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/27/2025, 9:53 AM
@slickrickdesigns - they've announced the full cast. This is the internet coping. You won't see Star Lord, Spidey, or Strange in this. They'll be back for Secret Wars.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 3/27/2025, 10:04 AM
@McMurdo - then why was I seeing articles and posts about how they haven’t announced the full cast yet after the casting announcement??
The internet doesn’t lie according to CBM.com all articles are considered real until proven guilty.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 3/27/2025, 10:06 AM
@McMurdo - literally an article from the other day.
the trade writes, "Sources say that even with 26 actors announced, Marvel wasn’t done with revealing the entire cast, although when and how another unveiling would occur was unclear."

https://comicbookmovie.com/avengers/avengers-doomsday/marvel-studios-isnt-done-revealing-the-avengers-doomsday-cast-chris-evans-still-expected-to-return-a217292#gs.ko6v69
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/27/2025, 10:19 AM
@slickrickdesigns - Yes Spidey is important for Secret Wars and if SM4 was prior then likely for Doomsday too but how is anyone going to call him to join the Avengers if nobody knows who he is? We have Loki who is more the tentpole of multiverse than Peter was realy as is but just cos of NWH does not equate to being required for A:D, for A:SW sure.

I simply questioned the issue of nobody knowing who he is and Holland being in three MCU movies within one year which not even RDJ ever did in the Infinity Saga and wasn't ever in 3 in a row if including end credits.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/27/2025, 10:22 AM
@slickrickdesigns - I'd add that the stranger one to be missing is a certain Doctor, Parker simply had visitors to New York, Stephen actual traveled across the multiverse AND was heavily involved in NWH.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 3/27/2025, 10:26 AM
@Apophis71 - does everyone think people forgot about Spiderman?
Did you even pay attention to the part where even Kingpin mentions Spiderman in DD born again?
Some of yall keep acting like because nobody remembers Peter Parker that means no one remembers Spiderman. People remember Spiderman, they just don’t remember Peter Parker. I’m pretty sure the stories that were told to the public still included Spiderman and the Avengers saving half the universe.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 3/27/2025, 10:32 AM
@Apophis71 - but at the end of MOM Strange went off with Furiosa to fight Immortan Joe in a different universe/reality.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/27/2025, 10:32 AM
@slickrickdesigns - I saw that. Anyone who isnt announced yesterday doesn't have a big part to play. Their may be cameos that help bridge to Secret Wars but don't expect either of the Peters, Strange, or Hulk to have a significant role on this film. They know people are concerned about the lack of these characters and they're going to want to control that narrative from overwhelming their announcement.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 3/27/2025, 10:36 AM
@slickrickdesigns -

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Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/27/2025, 10:37 AM
@slickrickdesigns - Everyone still knows about Spider-man, just nobody know who Peter Parker is anymore and there won't be a Spider-man in the phone book (or if there is it won't be Peter).
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 3/27/2025, 10:41 AM
@McMurdo - or contracts aren’t finalized at this exact moment and that’s why some people may have not been announced yet.
I’m not saying this as i know for sure, just as it makes sense that they would announce some major players we weren’t expecting. Next they might announce the major players we were expecting.
Retain characters just seem like they “should” be in the movie. Ex, Scarlet Witch is another one I expect to show up but hasn’t been announced yet. Spidey and Bruce Banner seem like they should be there too.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 3/27/2025, 10:43 AM
@KennKathleen - I definitely expect Garfield and Tobey to be in Secret Wars.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 3/27/2025, 11:09 AM
@Apophis71 - are we really still doing this? By that logic nobody should’ve ever met in Infinity War because they didn’t have each others phone numbers??
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/27/2025, 11:30 AM
@slickrickdesigns - Spider-man invited himself to that, the point is if calling up a team of Avengers you need contact details and this cast list will be the core Avengers team assembled at the start, plus the incursion team of mutants and a villain (with a side order of F4).

Also the whole point of IW was the team had already disbanded and were NOT in contact much if at all, the action occured wherever Thanos and co turned up not where a team went until the final act.

Others can appear but you can't call Spider-man to join a team if you don't know who Peter Parker is but a suited up Spidey could appear in the film but was always unlikely when the very next film was Spider-man 4 to my mind.
DarthAlgar
DarthAlgar - 3/27/2025, 8:23 AM
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Equivocal
Equivocal - 3/27/2025, 11:38 PM
@DarthAlgar -

no chris pratt ??

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Polaris
Polaris - 3/27/2025, 8:27 AM
The thunderbolts being the new avengers or the dark avengers, but avengers of some kind, makes sense when you realize there are almost no avengers in the avengers movie lol. There's Thor and Ant-man and Sam, then you can maybe add Shuri and shang-Chi, but still. No Spidey, no Captain Marvel, no Strange, no Wanda... It's all mutants, fantastic 4 and the thunderbolts.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/27/2025, 8:35 AM
@Polaris - I do think that makes sense given the hints we have had though I still think that asterisk is there just to match the somewhat irreverent tone of the film since almost none of them want to be called the Thunderbolts.

I feel like we may get the actual new Avengers by the end of SW since BNW ended with Sam wanting to reform the Avengers on his own , I can see him perhaps already having recruited some or even does so through the course of these 2 films.
Polaris
Polaris - 3/27/2025, 8:51 AM
@TheVisionary25 - I think you're right about Sam recruiting the new avengers, but I can also see the thunderbolts being called dark avengers. Maybe not even in an official way, but like, "we're the closest thing to the avengers now, but dark" lol. Idk it's weird there's only 3 avengers in the avengers movie. Plus, just imagine the bickering between Sam and Bucky.
I'd rather they stay the thunderbolts tho.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/27/2025, 8:58 AM
@Polaris - I get yah but I feel like we may have the Avengers being reformed across these 1-2 films but we’ll see…

I do agree that they stay the Thunderbolts ,Dark Avengers just sounds dumb when you say it in live action lol
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/27/2025, 9:21 AM
@Polaris - Always depends who you count as official Avengers as Peter turned down membership and Shuri was an important ally in Infinity War trying to remove Visions stone and the big battle in Wakanda with her and M'Baku fighting alongside them then all there for the big battle in Endgame too.

Chance we will see have at least some degree of supporting role appearances of Banner and Barton as well as War Machine as is anyways and Yelena is as close to having Nat there as you can get so with RDJ as Doom too...
Polaris
Polaris - 3/27/2025, 9:34 AM
@Apophis71 - You mean when he turned it down at the end of homecoming? But then in infinity war Tony was like "you're an avenger now" so even if he "left" the team after endgame I still count him. Shuri and M'Baku I see as allies but not avengers, because then I would have to consider the guardians and all the others too, but since she's black panther I imagine she'll take her brother's place and the role he was meant to have.

Maybe Banner and the others will have cameos, but still, if it's an avengers movie the avengers should be main characters. Kinda feels like they're just using the term as to mean big event movie, which I'm not a fan of.
Polaris
Polaris - 3/27/2025, 9:36 AM
@TheVisionary25 - It does lol but it can also fit the tone of the movie if it's treated as a joke, kind of like they're treating the thunderbolts name.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/27/2025, 9:46 AM
@Polaris - I guess so haha
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/27/2025, 9:59 AM
@Polaris - spot on
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/27/2025, 10:09 AM
@Polaris - As I say, depends how we qualiffy each but in terms of core members who started an actual film full members not 'you go through that door your an avenger' type stuff then there is only the main 6 from the first two films, the head chopping and/or time heist team in Endgame plus the 'new recruits' in the end scene of AoU that were close to considered FULL members.

That said expect Spidey to have been considered a member but then Dr Strange wiped everyones memory of who he is thus an obstacle for inclusion in Doomsday till that is resolved in SM4.
Polaris
Polaris - 3/27/2025, 2:53 PM
@Apophis71 - I would add a couple more that because of how important their role in the mcu is and their comics history you know they are meant to be in the team, even if they aren't officially yet. But anyway, there's an overwhelming majority of non avengers in this movie, Sam hasn't yet formed a new avengers team and there aren't many candidates in the cast, since most of them already have a team.

I think they should remember spider-man as a member tho, just not Peter Parker.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/27/2025, 3:07 PM
@Polaris - Will likely be a moot point after SM4, my guess what with the collapse of the multiverse etc the spell will be broken but not knowing his real identity is a good excuse for now to have at most a stuntman cameo (ie never sans mask) when Holland has so many films in production this next year or so he is a major part of (minimum two MCU films and two others) :D

I would say they at least know he is a key ally, core member sans Tony less clear as unsure he validated his full membership status after Peter turned him down initialy, thus either way WILL be full member if he wants it for Secret Wars.

There IS however a LONG list of associate members many would consider full members and course most the characters introduced in the MCU have been in the comics at one time or another even if not officialy added in the MCU to it.
Polaris
Polaris - 3/27/2025, 8:28 AM
Anyway,

"This potentially opens the door to us getting a street-level story set on Earth-616 rather than yet another Multiversal adventure."

Please 🙏
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/27/2025, 8:36 AM
@Polaris - fingers crossed!!.

I wouldn’t mind a post credits scene that transitions Spidey into Secret Wars & such.
Polaris
Polaris - 3/27/2025, 8:44 AM
@TheVisionary25 - Yeah, that would be ideal. If there's some multiversal stuff in the third arc I'm ok with it too, but don't make it all about the multiverse.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/27/2025, 9:31 AM
@Polaris - I can live with fully street level DD/Kingin connected for first half that expands to full multiverse for the final act if they are going down the starts before ends after route rather than end credit only ref to the result of Doomsday like we had with AM&W.
Polaris
Polaris - 3/27/2025, 9:41 AM
@Apophis71 - Same. I'll take it.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 3/27/2025, 10:15 AM
@Apophis71 - im completely good with that idea.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/27/2025, 8:30 AM
Damn man , this scheduling stuff sounds like a nightmare so I don’t envy them…

It’s hard enough to gather people for a day on the weekend for me so I can’t even imagine doing it for a production of this scale amongst other things such as negotiations , dealing with agents etc.

Also if Spideys not in it then it just further goes to show the amount of BS that’s been spewed about this movie in recent months.
Polaris
Polaris - 3/27/2025, 8:53 AM
@TheVisionary25 - So much bs omg.
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