An Idea on Who Will Wield the Shield

An Idea on Who Will Wield the Shield

It's complete conjecture, but something I feel is worth thinking about. Just who could be playing Captian America?

Editorial Opinion
By contrast - Jan 14, 2010 03:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Captain America

Let me start off by saying once again that the contents of this article are based solely on my own opinions, and not at all on fact.

There, now that we got that out of the way, let's move on to the real business.

I think Marvel has already cast Captain America, and they have chosen Chris Hemsworth. Now, at this point, you're probably all sitting up in your seats wondering how out of touch I could be if I didn't know that he had been cast as Thor already. Well, I obviously do, but the other day someone mentioned that they had heard that casting directors were screening four actors for the role of Cap while holding Thor auditions. That got me thinking. What did it get me thinking, you ask?

Well, first, that Marvel has shown a past tendency to either hide things from the general public, or out-and-out lie to them (in the case with Fury's appearance at the end of "Iron Man," or even to the true identity of Ronin in the comics.) This track record seems to have been broken wide open by "Thor," a movie that we know quite a bit about production-wise.

Second, Hemsworth looks a lot more like Steve Rogers than he does Thor. He may not be an American, but to be honest, not only is he the only non-American who could pull off the role of Cap, he's also one of the few actors (American or otherwise) who I wouldn't mind seeing toss around the shield. Hemsworth is both young enough to appear the proper age for World War II Cap, but he also has the physical presence, and most importantly, the acting ability to pull it off. Personally, I don't think Marvel is stupid enough to pass up on getting (in my opinion) the perfect Captain America just because he auditioned for Thor.

But wait, hasn't filming for "Thor" already started? Well, yes--But, in all of the on-set interviews I have read (and I may be wrong about this, because I'm just going from memory, but if I am wrong, they could be lying) not one actor has mentioned Chris Hemsworth by name. Joe Gatt even goes so far as to refer to Thor as "Thor" (well, actually, he avoids directly/specifically referring to him at all) and Loki as "Tom Hiddleston".

Also, there is the fact that "Thor"'s shooting title is "Manhattan" and "Captain America"'s is "Frostbite." Those titles actually make more sense if you swap them. Yes, I know, "Frostbite" makes perfect sense for "Captain America," but "Thor" is most likely going to be a snowy movie, and as far as "Manhattan" goes, not only is Steve Rogers from Manhattan, the Lower East Side to be exact, but the word "Manhattan" carries with it the connotation of The Manhattan Project. Hmm, let's see--Secret government project of the 1940s that creates a war-winning weapon for the United States--sounds pretty much like the Super-Soldier program that gave us-you guessed it-Captain America.

I know this may be a little far-fetched, but this is what happens when a sleep deprived, paranoid, conspiracy theorist is kept in the dark on who has or has not been cast as one of his favorite characters.

I'll enjoy to hear people's thoughts on this.

Excelsior!

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LEEE777
LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 6:22 AM
contrast @ Hmmm well thought out article, though why is he on the THOR set if they have him for CAP???

i dunno man, sounds like he's still THOR to me buddy lol!

; D

But hell, you could be right! I mean, who knows with HOLLYWOOD!! they gonna screw up CAP anyways so does it matter :D

Thumbs up, great article!


Hey check out ARMIE HAMMER he could be CAP easy bro!



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Jp499
Jp499 - 1/14/2010, 8:37 AM


Kellan Lutz for Captain America
StrangerX
StrangerX - 1/14/2010, 9:05 AM
I doubt it.
MercWitaMouth88
MercWitaMouth88 - 1/14/2010, 10:25 AM
Sam Worthington for Cap
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 1/14/2010, 10:30 AM
Well thought out...but I doubt it.
MercWitaMouth88
MercWitaMouth88 - 1/14/2010, 10:31 AM
Sam Worthington for Cap
contrast
contrast - 1/14/2010, 10:34 AM
@LEEE--yeah, that's just wishful thinking with a little paranoia thrown in for good measure. I'm well aware that in all likelihood, there is about a 2% chance that I am right, but hey...it's fun to speculate. And it's funny that you mention Armie Hammer, because your fan cast was what prompted
me to write this. I was reading about people complaining that Hammer was (I think) two inches taller than Hemsworth, and I realized that Hemsworth is one inch taller than Captain America. I'd had this idea for quite a while, but I had never mentioned it (in fact, as soon as I saw "Star Trek", I thought he would make a great Cap), and I decided to mention it in a comment on your fan cast. Three paragraphs later and I thought it would probably be best to cut and paste it into an article.

@MovieTheaterLad--I don't doubt that it is most likely an American that will be/has been cast as Cap, but as a counterpoint to the whole "He's Australian" thing--well, I never knew it until I'd heard he had been cast as Thor, and if you think about it...just as there are no true Scotsmen, the only true "Americans" would probably be better off as Forge or Shaman, than Captain America. Also, if I'm remembering correctly, Captain America is only a first-generation American; his parents having moved from Ireland to America some time before he was born. And finally, there is the fact that Captain America is a character, and Chris Hemsworth is an actor. If he can ACT American (which he can), than he can play an American. People usually respond to this by saying that his Americanism is his defining trait--well, Reed Richard's defining trait is that he is a genius. Would you honestly say that as well as an audition, any actor that wanted to play him should have to take a IQ test? Because it's the same thing. As long as the actor can ACT like a genius, they can play a genius.

@Jp499--Wasn't Kellan Lutz in Twilight...?

@Anil Rickly--Chris Pine is a good actor, but I don't think his personality fits the role. Leo has a babyish face, and an old man's body. Matt is just too old.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 1/14/2010, 10:37 AM
Interesting, but I doubt it. I do agree that Hemsworth seems like a better fit for Cap than Thor, but I think that such a complete turn around and pulling of wool over the eyes is a little out of sorts for any movie studio.

Lutz looks like the [frick]ing Grinch.
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 1/14/2010, 10:38 AM
Wierd. Yep not too plausible really.

They haven't mentioned Hemsworth by name because to tell anything about what he's doing, how he looks etc would be giving away details of the movie to us.
Ryden
Ryden - 1/14/2010, 11:05 AM
No he is Thor, it was officially announced he was Thor he IS thor.
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 1/14/2010, 11:08 AM
wow man, at first when i was reading i was like hell no what r you stupid???

but i too am under the impression they already cast Cap and arn't telling us. which is fine, even cool if you ask me. and the more i read the more i was willing to open my mind to your point of view

HOWEVER- did 'sif' tweet that chris' "arms are so huge" durring rehersals one day?
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 11:12 AM
Contrast @ Cool man! Yeah this is much better in an article!! It is fun to speculate, damn how messed up would it be if it became true!

Ya know i could see him as CAP once i saw TREK too, but only for a second, but your right he would make a great CAP more so than THOR, but time will tell!

P.S. I got no probs with an OZ playing CAP lol, i started off (sorta) the WORTHINGTON for CAP thing! : P

Damn, JASON LEWIS too! (Though that ones all american lol)

; p
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/14/2010, 11:21 AM
lol, no way.
ElBicho
ElBicho - 1/14/2010, 11:23 AM
Very interesting theory... JASON LEWIS!
Macksimus
Macksimus - 1/14/2010, 11:32 AM
Did they already cast Cap? Yes, probably.

Is Cap going to be played by Chris Hemsworth? IMO, no.

I guarantee they will want to cast an U.S. actor.
Shaman
Shaman - 1/14/2010, 11:33 AM
Contrast- Good argument but Reed doesn't represent "genius" like Cap represents America. IMO, there is an ocean of difference and i'm Canadian. Wolverine is a canadian but doesn't represent Canada so i didn't care who portrayed him as long as it was an accurate portrayal. I was very happy with Jackman's. But for Cap, i'd be very dissapointed if Hemsworth was Cap even though he has the talent and physically looks perfect for the role UNLIKE WORTHINGTON. I'd also be very dissapointed if Captain Brittan was played by a Canadian or anything else than a Brit!
Ranger14
Ranger14 - 1/14/2010, 11:42 AM
Now that we know what they are looking at for the story, early period Cap, you can toss out Jason Lewis, Worthington and the 30+ and way+ actors. If that is the way they are going, they will need to go mid to late 20's tops to look appropriate.

I am with Shaman...what is it with all the Worthington fan boys? Worthington doesn't even look like Cap and regardless of one's acting ability, Cap needs to be played by an American. You have to believe the forces behind the movie know that for marketing purposes they need to have the audience completely bought into the role of the All-Amercian hero. I can't picture them casting someone who isn't American.
NubaX
NubaX - 1/14/2010, 11:42 AM
I KNOW WHO CAN WIELD THE SHIELD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

;D


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LOL!

J/K

;-D
ScorpioEagle1
ScorpioEagle1 - 1/14/2010, 12:06 PM
@ NubaX I was going to post a Wil Smith photo myself.. seeing as they offered him the roll to begin with. What does that say about the crop of actors they believe could carry this film to the promissed land? A lot! I know I know.. you say they just want to cash in and Wil Smith is the quickest and easiest way to do so and I AGREE 100% which is why I'm glad he turned it down.. to do Handjob.. which wasn't great but not terrible either.. let's hope the second installment is better. It appears he's prepping several sequels for 2011-2012 -I AM LEGEND 2, I-Robot 2, Men In Black 3 and Hancock 2.. dude is going to be busy!
FrankGarret
FrankGarret - 1/14/2010, 12:08 PM
Yeah,speaking as the guy who mentioned the 'they're scanning for Cap' theory, I gotta say, I don't think so.

It would have been great, though.
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 1/14/2010, 12:11 PM
just saw Avatar for the first time last night - and while i enjoyed worthington's preformance - WOW I CAN'T BELIEVE ANYONE WOULD THINK HE CAN PLAY CAP! he's a good actor but i watched him play an american soldier for 3 hours and gotta say - nothing about anything he did durring that entire movie led me to believe he could play cap.
his accent - while it didn't bother at all - fluctuated between austrailian and american practically every word. and thats fine for jake sully. i liked it. i liked the movie.

but we need to put to bed any and all speculation that worthington should be cap. based on what i saw - he should not weild the sheild. i don't know what, beyond him wearing a t-shirt, would make people think of him as cap america.
FrankGarret
FrankGarret - 1/14/2010, 12:12 PM
What about Matthew Goode? Though I don't think he'd ever want a comic-book gig after the reception he had as Veidt.
contrast
contrast - 1/14/2010, 12:13 PM
Here's an interesting question to think on (and I'm absolutely NOT suggesting that Chris did, or will do this...as I do understand not only how far-fetched my claim is, but also how dedicated to a role you'd have to be to do this)

Think of a British/Canadian/Australian/etc actor being cast as Captain America, and just go ahead and assume that they look the part, can act incredibly well, and do a perfect American accent.

Okay, now, I'd estimate with that thought, several of you would be unhappy with this, regardless of the fact that he looks, sounds, and acts like an American...and wikipedia is the only reason you know otherwise.

Now--would all of that hatred go away if, before filming began, the actor in question became a U.S. Citizen?

To be honest, I just want to hear your thoughts on this. Should be interesting.
contrast
contrast - 1/14/2010, 12:18 PM
@SuperAlex--I'm not sure about Sif's tweet, as I don't recall reading it on here, and I don't actually have a twitter account. It is entirely possible, though. As I say, this is entirely speculation...I've just done my best at attempting to provide explanations for that speculation, no matter how outlandish it is.

@Frank Garret--it was you, wasn't it? I had forgotten who mentioned it, or I would have attributed it in the article. And as far as Goode goes, I wouldn't be terribly disappointed if he was cast, but in my personal opinion, he's too tall and lean for Cap.
CROVL
CROVL - 1/14/2010, 12:46 PM
@ Contrast, I like your hypothesis. Would be cool if you were right. Conspiracies are the things that are true that no one wants to believe...most of the time.
TheDrizzle
TheDrizzle - 1/14/2010, 12:47 PM
First off, Matthew Goode would be a TERRIBLE Cap.

Second, this article is a very interesting read but I sincerely doubt that Marvel would go that far to pull the wool over the eyes of the fans. I think if nothing else it would be detrimental to the Thor movie go lie about who their leading man is while the movie is in production. Also, if this is right, you would have to assume that Malambri's tweet about auditioning for the role was a lie/joke or that Marvel was holding fake auditions as a red herring to give the illusion that they are still looking for their Cap. All in all it's an interesting theory but there are just too many holes in it.
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 1/14/2010, 12:57 PM
contrast@ oh yeah i love it. i love this kind of speculation. i was unsure of sifs tweet myself. maybe she said chris.
but if you are right then... SAM WORTHINGTON FOR THOR!!!(might as well start it now)

also contrast, i LOVE the question you posed - would you still be unhappy if he became a us citizen?- great stuff. that's better than the question i always ask - would it stop you from seeing the movie if the cast someone who is not american? i speculate 'no'

anyone crying that it has to be an american actor will still buy advance tickets and wait in line for the mid-night showing. i know this. you know this. they know this. but it won't stop them from bitching.
CROVL
CROVL - 1/14/2010, 1:13 PM
@ Contrast, I like your hypothesis. Would be cool if you were right. Conspiracies are the things that are true that no one wants to believe...most of the time.
Shaman
Shaman - 1/14/2010, 1:23 PM
SuperAlex- I would see it once as opposed to many times.

Contrast- Hmmm... good one! It's pretty much the same as asking "should we let Arnold run for the presidency"? Good question indeed. Notice how i don't quite have an answer for you. I guess it would depend on the american people because it is their representative not mine. If a massive AMERICAN poll says yes to a non american, why should i care after that? I would just be surprised of their answer seeing how they're one of the most patriotic countries out there. They tend to cling to their... "stuff" LOL :P
Ranger14
Ranger14 - 1/14/2010, 1:35 PM
No, SuperAlex, you don't know this. i wouldn't be buying tickets if Sam Worthington were Cap. I would definitely wait to watch it. I am not an opening night movie watcher anyway. I don't like watching a movie in a crowded theater with a bunch of loud kids.

I am not bitching or crying, just stating an opinion. For credibility standpoint, it behooves them to cast an American. Can they get by casting someone who is not American? Sure, but I think they do lose some credibility, especially with hardcore Cap fans. For the average person who has never picked up a Cap comic book, it won't matter a bit.

Contrast does pose an interesting question. If there is someone who is from another country who has become a citizen of our country, I wouldn't have as much trouble with it as long as they can use perfect English in the role. Please note I said "as much trouble with it". :-) This is one role in which I think being American would be important for the person playing the role from an authenticity standpoint. If they make a Black Panther movie, I don't think they have to have a black actor from Africa. A good black actor from anywhere could play the part and I don't think anyone would really care. In this case we are talking Captain America though and it is a little more polarizing of a character.
MarkV
MarkV - 1/14/2010, 1:44 PM
Hahahah, oh man that's rich. Hey Maybe Robert Downey Jr. could play ALL the Avengers, that way they would only have to pay one guy. Obviously some one who was cast as Thor would be unable to be Captain America. You would have to be schizophrenic to believ otherwise.
foxfan
foxfan - 1/14/2010, 1:48 PM
chris pine would be a great choice
TheMyth
TheMyth - 1/14/2010, 1:55 PM
I'd like to add the fact that Stellan Skarsgard has been cast for Thor, but none of us know who he is portraying. I agree that Cap has certainly already been cast and I have to say you present a sound argument, whether truth is in it or not.
contrast
contrast - 1/14/2010, 2:48 PM
@MarkV--Well, excuse me for assuming that all of my readers would be intellegent enough to understand that I meant he had been cast as Captain America, but they had ANNOUNCED that he was cast as Thor, while actually casting another actor in that part. I'm not saying he's playing both parts...I'm not even committing to my theory that he may be Captain America--it was just an interesting idea I had. Everyone else seems to get it. Now, I'm all for taking someone down a notch if they have done something arrogant, or purposefully attention-grabbing and had nothing in the way of explanation as to why they think what they think, but the fact is that even though this will most likely end up being false, I actually attempted (and in my biased opinion, succeeded) in showing you WHY I had this crazy idea. So, next time you want to feel superior to someone else, I suggest renting a few Pauly Shore movies and go to town.

@Foxfan--While Chris Pine is a great actor, the only things I have seen him in ("Star Trek" and "Smokin' Aces") have basically shown that he would be perfect...for someone like Hawkeye. Who knows, he may be able to play the perfect soldier, and I definately wouldn't hate to see him play the part, but so far all I've seen has yet to convince me he can play an idealistic, hopeful kind of guy.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 2:58 PM
WORTHINGTON for THOR!!! Heh heh. : P
contrast
contrast - 1/14/2010, 3:07 PM
@TheMyth--Thanks! And it's interesting that you mention Stellan Skarsgard, because I was just poking around on IMDB, and someone posted on the message board that he should be playing Thor. If my outlandish theory turns out to be right, that could very well end up being the answer to the obvious question of "Well then, who's Thor?" (As a side-note, the only information in the way of who Skarsgard is playing is from IMDB, and they call his character Andrew Ford. Although this movie is showing a track-record of holding no punches when it comes to great casting, I highly doubt that they would waste an actor of Stellan Skarsgard's calibre on a character like Andrew "I've Never Heard of You" Ford.) It's a thought.
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