CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD Director On Why Red Hulk Doesn't Talk And [SPOILER]'s Alternate Cameos

CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD Director On Why Red Hulk Doesn't Talk And [SPOILER]'s Alternate Cameos

Captain America: Brave New World director Julius Onah has explained why Harrison Ford's Red Hulk doesn't talk in the movie and reveals some of the other ideas thrown around for Bucky Barnes' cameo...

By JoshWilding - Feb 21, 2025 10:02 AM EST
Source: Collider

Captain America: Brave New World ends with President Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross transforming into the out-of-control Red Hulk. Unlike Smart Hulk, She-Hulk, and Abomination, the villain never speaks and, as a result, is more akin to a "classic" angry Hulk.

Collider recently caught up with filmmaker Julius Onah and asked why Red Hulk doesn't talk in the Marvel Studios blockbuster.

"Whether or not Red Hulk should talk, that was something that came up quite a bit," he acknowledged. "My feeling was that he shouldn't, which is what is the case in the movie." According to the Captain America: Brave New World director, it came down to "the transformation that Ross is dealing with and the struggle that Ross is dealing with emotionally."

Onah added, "The moment you gave him language as a Hulk, then people can talk to each other, and you're moving away from pure id to a more rational being. It was the same way Harrison felt.”

"That speaks to a guy and how great of collaborators everybody at Marvel is. They respected that, and that's what we got in the movie."

It makes sense and the Captain America vs. Red Hulk battle has been widely praised for portraying Ross' angry other half in the same way as the transformed Bruce Banner in The Incredible Hulk, The Avengers, and Avengers: Age of Ultron.

Elsewhere in the conversation, Onah was quizzed on Sebastian Stan's cameo role as Bucky Barnes. He shows up to give Sam Wilson a pep talk after The Falcon is injured and it's revealed he's mounting a campaign to become a Congressman.

While we've heard the scene was filmed during reshoots, Onah said, "Bucky was always a part of it...from the very beginning, we knew that Bucky would feature in some way in the story."

"There were versions where he was at the beginning of the movie, there were versions where he was at the very end of the movie, but it became clear that putting him at a point where Sam is dealing with one of his emotional lows would be very, very potent, and also offer a surprise."

"I don't think the audience is ever expecting that that's the moment he's going to show up in the movie, and I love that kind of surprise," the director concluded. 

Thunderbolts* is expected to pick up with the former Winter Soldier now an acting Congressman, something that's likely to put him in conflict with whatever Valentina Allegra de Fontaine is plotting. 

Finally, Onah confirmed what we've long suspected; despite the importance of Celestial Island to Captain America: Brave New World's Adamantium subplot, the Eternals were never lined up to appear. "That was never on the table. No," he told the site.

In Captain America: Brave New World, after meeting with newly elected U.S. President Thaddeus Ross, played by Harrison Ford in his Marvel Cinematic Universe debut, Sam Wilson finds himself in the middle of an international incident. He must discover the reason behind a nefarious global plot before the true mastermind has the entire world seeing red.

The movie stars Anthony Mackie, Danny Ramirez, Shira Haas, Xosha Roquemore, Carl Lumbly, with Giancarlo Esposito, Liv Tyler, Tim Blake Nelson, and Harrison Ford. The movie is directed by Julius Onah and produced by Kevin Feige and Nate Moore. Louis D’Esposito and Charles Newirth serve as executive producers.

"Flawed but functional, Captain America: Brave New World's many problems are largely forgotten any time Anthony Mackie and Harrison Ford electrify the screen," we said in our review"And when Red Hulk shows up, the movie reaches new heights of awesome."

Captain America: Brave New World is now playing in theaters.

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Waifuslayer2
Waifuslayer2 - 2/21/2025, 10:20 AM
In other words, Ford refused to do voice work
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 2/21/2025, 10:22 AM
@Waifuslayer2 - Rightfully so
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Vigor
Vigor - 2/21/2025, 10:40 AM
@Waifuslayer2 - dude did mocap and acted like a rage monster. If that isn't beneath him, then I'm sure voice work is no biggie. Ford just cares about a paycheck this late in his career

Cut the check!
theFUZZ008
theFUZZ008 - 2/21/2025, 10:43 AM
@Waifuslayer2 - He didn't want to do any more mork.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 2/21/2025, 11:16 AM
@theFUZZ008 -

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Waifuslayer2
Waifuslayer2 - 2/21/2025, 1:27 PM
@Vigor - it was a joke you humorless simp.

My god STFU already.
Crtdacct2say
Crtdacct2say - 2/21/2025, 10:32 AM
Wait, he doesn't talk? Is he just a dumb hulk?
Vigor
Vigor - 2/21/2025, 10:39 AM
@Crtdacct2say - he seems more refined than the first time we saw banner hulk out in avengers. But still full of rage

Being that these are movies and need to tell arcs, it's reasonable to assume that like Banner did, the red hulk will evolve over time in subsequent movies
Crtdacct2say
Crtdacct2say - 2/21/2025, 10:57 AM
@Vigor - does he at least have that cosmic radiation power or is he just hulk but red? Does he even use a gun?
Vigor
Vigor - 2/21/2025, 11:33 AM
@Crtdacct2say - no gun. He definitely radiates heat

I think the gun would come with intelligence and a better control of his powers. Not speaking in this movie does not indicate he isn't intelligent. I genuinely think they chose to show his rage side only here since this is the first time he has ever hulked out
Matchesz
Matchesz - 2/21/2025, 11:36 AM
@Crtdacct2say - he radiates hear until he has Sams whole head in his grasp then that power goes away some reason
Matchesz
Matchesz - 2/21/2025, 11:36 AM
heat*
jackbauer884
jackbauer884 - 2/21/2025, 2:54 PM
@Crtdacct2say - Yes he is. Which he wasnt in the comics.
jackbauer884
jackbauer884 - 2/21/2025, 2:56 PM
@Crtdacct2say - Yes. Just Hulk in red. A dumb rage monster. Which is a reason, movie sucked.
TheLobster
TheLobster - 2/21/2025, 10:33 AM
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NoDaysOff
NoDaysOff - 2/21/2025, 10:33 AM
The movie was ok, definitley not Marvel's best, but i don't think it deserves that much hate. Lov and Thunder sure does though.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 2/21/2025, 10:44 AM
@NoDaysOff - It wasn't bad just... Meh. Like hardcore meh. Missed opportunities. Mostly lame action. Bad green screen. Obvious reshoots. ChatGPT level dialogue at times. Very forgettable.

But Thor Love and Thunder was damn near offensive lol. It actually took me a while to warm up to Ragnarok. It was such a departure it felt a bit jarring. But upon further viewings I grew to like it.

L&T was just dumb. Not sure what Taika was smoking with that one.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 2/21/2025, 11:18 AM
@DarthOmega -

Bob Iger and Kevin Feige wanted Love and Thunder to be bad for some reason.

They signed off on the script.

Or does Bob Iger allow just any tent pole movie to be made?
Vigor
Vigor - 2/21/2025, 10:38 AM
@TheVisionary25 - the timing for Buckys appearance was perfect. Literally perfect
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 2/21/2025, 10:37 AM
Honestly , I agree with Onah here in regards to the portrayal of Red Hulk in this…

In most comics Red Hulk can talk and keeps his intelligence so by doing that here , you could have Sam talk him down early on instead of having a fight initially but since he’s out of control and just running on pure base instinct & anger then it makes the situation harder and more exciting imo.

Ultimately Sam does talk him down in a way that after Rulk gets blasted but I could buy it since he was in a more vulnerable state and it has been established that Hulks have this buried humanity that can allow them to connect to others at times.

Anyway , I’m glad that they placed Bucky’s appearance after a low moment for Sam because then it makes the conversation they have more effective & impactful…

It’s my favorite moment of the film and truly cements Sam’s arc in it.

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Batmandalorian
Batmandalorian - 2/21/2025, 10:42 AM
I for one prefer the mindless raging hulk over "smart hulk".
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 2/21/2025, 10:52 AM
Cheap Disney couldn't pay Harrison Ford another million dollars to talk for an hour?

They should have given Red Hulk some of normal Thaddeus' lines. Don't alter the audio at all. Just Red Hulk talking like Harrison Ford.

People should make videos with Red Hulk saying Harrison Ford lines from other movies.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 2/21/2025, 10:53 AM
What kind of pants was President Ross wearing that stretch out and shrink down that much?
JayLemle
JayLemle - 2/21/2025, 3:00 PM
Bucky's cameo fits well in the movie. We can't have a Cap movie without some sort of nod to Sam's and Bucky's relationship. When Bucky says, "I love you," the relationship has taken nearly 9 years (since Civil War... wow... 9 years already!) to get to this point. Cap needed to hear something inspiring from his friend.
SummersEssex
SummersEssex - 2/21/2025, 9:06 PM
This movie was fine. Not amazing, but reviewers are getting it all wrong.

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