EDITORIAL: Will Marvel Studios’ And Warner Bros/DC’s Style Of Marketing Make Or Break Captain America, Thor & Green Lantern?

EDITORIAL: Will Marvel Studios’ And Warner Bros/DC’s Style Of Marketing Make Or Break Captain America, Thor & Green Lantern?

Here, I look at the differences between how Marvel and DC have marketed their upcoming CBM's. Does too much ruin the movie, or keep you excited? Does not enough cause you to forget, or leave you on tenderhooks? Hit the jump to hear my thoughts...

Editorial Opinion
By JoshWilding - Mar 04, 2011 03:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Captain America

Regardless of whether it’s a new poster or any other sort of news story, it seems that you can’t help but go onto an article about Captain America: The First Avenger or Thor without seeing almost entirely positive comments. It seems that we’ve already decided the two latest efforts from Marvel Studios will be the best comic book movies of 2011. And in all fairness, it’s not hard to see why. Over the past six months, Marvel have steadily released a series of interviews, images and trailers, building fan anticipation to an all-time high and getting us even more psyched to see every little thing that they tease us with no matter how minor or major it may be. Take the Red Skull for example. It’s fairly obvious that fans would be chomping at the bit to see him, and rather than reveal the characters big screen look immediately (the same also applies to Chris Evans being in the full Captain America costume) they instead released images of Hugo Weaving in his Johann Schmidt persona, a couple of his face hidden in shadow, some concept art, a glimpse in a teaser trailer and finally all of that culminated in an official image of the villain being unveiled yesterday. This is only ONE example of how Marvel Studios have built up the hype surrounding their films...and that was for just a single character. While non-comic book fans may not care as much as us about such a thing, the fact that they release such pictures such as these through major mainstream publications like Empire and Entertainment Weekly proves that they’re getting the message and hype out to more than just us.

However, when it comes to Green Lantern, it’s far more likely that you’ll see a handful of positive comments, buried in a sea of negativity. I don’t need to use this editorial to rehash the brilliant points that superdog made in his recent article here on CBM, but in comparison to Marvel Studios, DC and Warner Bros. have very much been lacking when it comes to building up the hype for their first major big screen adaptation that doesn’t focus on Batman or Superman. Yes, there’s plenty of time until its release and you can guarantee that they’ll start promoting the crap out of it before June, but are they risking losing the interest of fans and non-fans alike with such a strategy? What I would like to know is just how much a difference the two companies’ style of marketing makes to YOU. Captain America, Thor and Green Lantern aren’t really characters you’d expect the general movie going audience to know all that well in comparison to the likes of Spider-Man and the X-Men, and so should all have an equal chance at succeeding in the box office this summer. Will the two companies very different styles of promotion end up making a difference though? Going back to my above point about the Red Skull, let’s take a look at how DC revealed Sinestro. We saw him properly for the first time in the trailer, and this was followed by a still of that image appearing in the Green Lantern comic book. I would be willing to bet anything that if two separate articles were to be posted tonight, with one featuring a new image of Sinestro and the other with a new image of Loki, it’d be the latter you’d see shoot to the top of CBM’s ‘Most Active’ stories. Why? Because Marvel have so far only teased his appearance and despite us having seen even more images and footage of Loki than Sinestro, the mystery and excitement surrounding the character seems to be far more intriguing to fans than a picture of a character they already gave us a full blown look at months ago who we actually know very little about.

The “treat ‘em mean, and keep ‘em keen” approach that DC is taking seems to be turning fans against this movie more than anything else. Perhaps I’m wrong, and the fact we’ve seen so little WOULD in fact result in a new image of Sinestro (or any other character from the film) feeling like the arrival of the messiah to us comic fans. But it’s not us who help make or break these films at the box office now is it? Apart from a trailer and a reveal on the cover of Entertainment Weekly, what have regular moviegoers seen of Green Lantern? Regardless of the amount of promotion they give the film nearer the time of its release, is it not a better idea to start laying the groundwork NOW and keeping people interested and excited over a longer period of time? Shouldn’t the non-comic book fan be just as hyped about seeing a character or plot point revealed as we are? While you could say that these same points apply to X-Men: First Class, the difference is that is their fifth movie in the mutant franchise which is why instead of spending a pile of cash on a Super Bowl spot, they were able to build up over two million users on Facebook in anticipation of the trailers release. This same rule doesn’t apply to Marvel or DC, despite them have previous success with the likes of Iron Man and The Dark Knight. The movies being released in 2011 are all brand new properties and building them up in the hearts and minds of the audience is essential to success. Looking at this argument for a regular person’s point of view, they may have been cool with checking out a film about a guy kicking ass in a metal super suit, but will the same apply to a WWII period piece about a guy calling himself Captain America? And just who the hell are Green Lantern and Thor?

In my opinion, I have no doubt that Captain America and Thor will end up doing well at the box office, with the critics and amongst fans. Why? Well, I think that’s down to how they’ve been marketed to me so far. As for Green Lantern, I like what I’ve seen up until this point, love the character and am hoping it’ll do well. I’m not quite so confident about it doing as well with what I’ve just mentioned though. A good trailer with some dodgy CGI and mixed tone in terms of dialogue and a few boring stills/concept art reveals has left me feeling concerned about the film. When I see another trailer and more, I’m sure I’ll feel the opposite. But not everyone is quite as open-minded as me. Many here on CBM have already written it off. Even hard-core fans of the character aren’t too happy with it. If that’s how THEY feel, has this already happened with the regular movie goers I’ve mentioned so many times above? Has the lack of news and pictures left them uninterested in a film they’ve barely heard about? Will a later onslaught of promotion do anything to change that? I’m not sure. What I do know is that Marvel Studios will be sitting back feeling very proud of themselves, as both Cap and Thor are already in the minds of people out there, while them already publicising the fact that these characters will all be in one epic movie together next year is bound to help. I’m basing this simply from what I’ve heard from people who don’t read the comics and who don’t follow the news on these movies as closely as I do. They know about Captain America and Thor and they’re looking forward to seeing them months in advance of their release. They know bugger all about Green Lantern.
Will they see reviews and adverts nearer the time that convince them to check it out? Probably. I have a feeling though, that Marvel’s marketing strategy will have ensured they’re already the winners at the box office by that point. On the other hand, are Marvel releasing TOO much? I for one felt like I’d already seen Iron Man 2 before heading off to the cinema. Thanks to the release of two revealing trailers, several clips and dozens of stills, there was very little in terms of surprise. Even now, I’m beginning to notice that an interview with Chris Evans or Chris Hemsworth is getting a lot less interest than they used to. Perhaps the oversaturation of on-going promotion will put people off or simply leave them feeling like they’ve seen enough to know that it’s not worth checking out. I know if I’d known and seen more of Black Swan (the most recent example I can think of) I wouldn’t have bothered going to see it at the cinema. Regardless, the marketing of these films is being handled extremely differently, with Marvel so far appearing to be on top. Does too much become boring? Does not enough leave you frustrated or more excited? What do you guys think?




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LP4
LP4 - 3/4/2011, 3:57 PM
Damn Josh love the comparison pic of Sinestro and Red Skull. Those 2 will clearly outshine the heroes just as Heath did as Joker when he outshined Bale in TDK.

WolvieCBM
WolvieCBM - 3/4/2011, 4:01 PM
Amazing write-up buddy! Hopefully the second trailer for Green Lantern will be much better. And it would be great if all of these films do well at the box office.
PaulRom
PaulRom - 3/4/2011, 4:03 PM
Good write up dude.
I think that Green Lantern isn't being promoted enough. Since the trailer's release last November or whatever, we've seen little promotion beyond a few stills and a lot of promotional art/action figures. Meanwhile, we have Thor covering those things, except we have TWO trailers and a Superbowl ad. Captain America has yet to get a full trailer, but had the Superbowl ad and quite a few stills and such.
In a nutshell, I believe that you can have a lot of promotion for a movie, as long as it doesn't make it seem like you saw it already when you actually see it.
vermillion
vermillion - 3/4/2011, 4:04 PM
I think Green Lantern will be the surprise hit of the summer. It's my most anticipated CBM coming out.

If DC was ashamed of Green Lantern, they wouldn't already be working on a sequel before the first one came out. To the contrary, we've been hearing WB/DC is really pleased with the film.

vermillion
vermillion - 3/4/2011, 4:09 PM
Gaston-That's what I've been thinking. I would rather see the picture as it's intended to be, and not unfinished. With a film like GL that's heavily, heavily CGI, I can understand the lack of photos.

Patience, folks. Patience.
MovieGuy2178
MovieGuy2178 - 3/4/2011, 4:11 PM
Great editoral, josh.
Coachella
Coachella - 3/4/2011, 4:13 PM
I think people bashing Green Lantern need to shut up already. Green Lantern could surprise all of you!
marvel72
marvel72 - 3/4/2011, 4:13 PM
@ joshw

excellent editorial,mate.

the whole marketing of thor has been pretty much perfect for me.

also captain america,revealing the red skull was awesome move,everyone wanted to see him marvel delivered.

marvel needs to hurry up with a trailer for captain america.

as for the green lantern,well dc should be handling this alot better than they are.

releasing a "nothing special" trailer was a bad move,the second trailer as got to be f*cking amazing to renew my intrest.

action figures don't make me decide if i want to see a movie or not,its trailers & decent photos from the film.

i read the green lantern comic & i want this movie to be awesome,but at the moment its the worse of the big three.
DaenerysTargaryen
DaenerysTargaryen - 3/4/2011, 4:14 PM
Thoughts on GL so far: I'm a bit happy that they finally released two new movie pics *even if they aren't the greatest pics*. Hopefully soon DC starts releasing some pics that show off the aliens, Oa, and costume rather than shying away from revealing pics that use CGI. I mean I've noticed lately that the recent live-action pics have been those that dont require CGI *example: the hector and hal pic, and the two recent pics*.

DC should have released something epic *like a new picture or something* a couple weeks after the trailer started getting bad reviews in order to get the fan-love back, but instead they just went quiet. For a while I forgot about that movie because we barely got anything worth while. Then those damn promo arts came out and at first it was pretty cool. But after a long period of getting nothing but promo art *and half of them being of stuff we've seen dozens of times* it got a bit boring/annoying.

Back on the topic of the trailer: In a way the GL trailer helped thor and cap. Cause 1. it made the thor and cap stuff look better by comparison thus creating more fan-love and hype for cap and thor and 2. it *hopefully* taught Marvel that waiting till your trailer is absolutely perfect *cgi, and editing wise* is a pretty good idea.
Hopefully the second GL trailer will do what Thor did. Have the first trailer focus mostly on the origin and then have the second show off all your "OMFG" action. I wanna see constructs, space action, more of the king of awesome *aka Mark strong*, and better CGI. Dc should make us forget that the first trailer ever existed and make fans all excited for GL once again.

My positive thoughts on GL: Now I actually liked the Oa scenes. They were pretty cool IMO, I just wished the trailer focused on the Oa and space scenes more than the earth scenes. Oh and Mark strong can make raising his hands seem bad-ass. I hope they show him more in the second trailer. Reynolds seemed ok in the trailer *minus that now iconic line "I KNOW RIGHT!*. I just want the second trailer to focus more on the space action rather than the comedy parts *which turned most fans off*
Thoughts on Cap and Thor: I am mostly pleased with the thor and cap promotion even though I do feel like I know too much about Thor *but thats probably because I read the script :P*. I can't wait till the cap trailer is released, all this anticipating the trailers release definitly made me more and more interested in the cap movie, plus that recent Red skull pic made me uber excited for the movie.


Well thats all I have to say. :)
Coachella
Coachella - 3/4/2011, 4:15 PM
Green Lantern gets to much hate than it deserves. I hope the film proves all the haters wrong.
JohnTom88
JohnTom88 - 3/4/2011, 4:16 PM
Wait for the 2nd trailer of GL first before putting any kind of judgement.

That being said I think Loki (Hiddleston) will be very good. Marvel wants to reuse him in the Avengers, so that's a nod of approval.
CraptainAmerica
CraptainAmerica - 3/4/2011, 4:19 PM
WB know what they are doing. Dangling a carrot so to speak. Why would they put out footage they weren't confident is gonna blow our socks off? They did it once and had a backlash. Thor has rolled out more and more because we are nearer the release date. GL & Cap will follow suit.

Patience is a virtue :-)
naterator
naterator - 3/4/2011, 4:20 PM
I think you have it right. DC WB have always been pretty tight lipped... but i dont think its outta shame. I think if we know very little about the movies it builds more curiosity. Whereas if u (MARVEL) show too much....then where is the excitement...the anticipation? The thing i hate is when you have already seen the best parts of the movie via trailer....know what i mean?
ironpool007
ironpool007 - 3/4/2011, 4:20 PM
Marvel is taking a very noticable marketing push. I think that is because they pushed Iron Man 1 and 2 the same way, and they know that method got them a nice return at the box office. With Green Lantern, DC and Warner Brothers are taking a more guarded, cautiously optimistic approach. And they are doing it for 2 reasons i believe. This is how the they worked with Chris Nolan on Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. They kept the same veil of secrecy over these movies as they are with Green Lantern. Hell I would say, we got less info on those movies than Green Lantern. You also have to remember that Green Lantern is not as well known as Batman or Superman and they know that. Therefore I think they just want people to be surprised pleasantly by the final product.
marvel72
marvel72 - 3/4/2011, 4:21 PM
marvel are handling promotion correctly,the more i see the more i'm hyped for these movies.

dc on the otherhand hasn't shown us shit of the green lantern apart from piss poor action figures,i'm beginning to lose imtrest.
Dumegg
Dumegg - 3/4/2011, 4:26 PM
GL is cool, I just wish we had some more video. another trailer or something.
golden123
golden123 - 3/4/2011, 4:28 PM
LOL, you write most of the article pro Marvel, then squeeze the pro DC stuff at the end of the last paragraph. Nice try. I'm going to see all of these anyways as well as probably most of the CBM community, and I think the average joe knows about all three of the movies on the same level, right now anyways. So I don't care. Oh and from what they have released Thor looks less than average. So maybey, to answer your question over promotion is a bad thing.
Coachella
Coachella - 3/4/2011, 4:29 PM
@naterator- I totally agree with you!!!
Frecks
Frecks - 3/4/2011, 4:31 PM
Marvel will always be on top,which is sad, i feel for dc, there trying something new and if it doesn't work its back to the Batman/superman drawing board. I think they only released the unfinished trailer to stay in the game with marvel, who released the First Thor trailer (or maybe it was the comic con footage) Im trying to stay opened minded because if Green lantern fails, Batman & Superman will be standing in the corner with open arms saying "Don't you worry Hal, let us deal with the big scary movie industry" which i DONT want, i want to see a Wonder woman & Flash Movie in the future!

on the bright side... i want the power ring! :D
naterator
naterator - 3/4/2011, 4:33 PM
@BATMAN27.... cheers bud....its not rocket science. I think DC is doing just fine keeping me curious.
vermillion
vermillion - 3/4/2011, 4:37 PM
I'm with Naterator. Seen so many "awesome" trailers, then the film's best parts were in the trailer. And THAT makes for a really disappointing Cinema experience.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to enjoy GL the most. That or Thor. Captain America is getting me more interested though. Just not really a fan of the character.

I'm going to see all the CBM's coming out this year anyways.

ManThing
ManThing - 3/4/2011, 4:38 PM
@ Josh: I don't think it's that people are less interested.

It's just that there is only so many times a person can go into the comments section and say something to the effect of "Wonderful! Movie looks great! I'm excited!" before it starts to feel redundant.

I know I have said that stuff hundreds of times since these movies were announced.

I wouldn't worry about responses too much at this point.
Also I firmly believe that all three of these movies are going to make an absolute killing at the Box Office.
CBM's are Hollywood's bread and butter right now and THESE are the ones everyone really wants to see.

Hell the economy is circling the drain and I am STILL going to see Thor at least three times! I know a lot of fans feel the same way. Wild horses couldn't keep us from seeing these.
rodsvilaca
rodsvilaca - 3/4/2011, 4:38 PM
HUGO WEAVING as RED SKULL:

Coachella
Coachella - 3/4/2011, 4:43 PM
Next year will be hearing people complain Batman and Superman dont have great marketing. WB is a great studio they know what there doing!
MovieMann
MovieMann - 3/4/2011, 4:44 PM
I have no doubt that these movies will do well in the box office, but I cant see any of these doing good with critics, MAYBE Captain America.
It is really very rare that CBM's do good with critics.
Nolan and Favreau are the recent directors to accomplish this.
D117
D117 - 3/4/2011, 4:49 PM
When is the full Captain America trailer getting released it's taking too long
vermillion
vermillion - 3/4/2011, 4:57 PM
New trailer for GL this month folks, patience. Hopefully it's going to be worth the wait. :D

I thought the comedy in GL and Thor was funny. Hal Jordan can be funny sometimes people. :P Read Secret Origin!
vermillion
vermillion - 3/4/2011, 4:58 PM
NerdAlert-It's not worth the time to talk to any Marvelites on this site, trust me.
Angelus
Angelus - 3/4/2011, 5:03 PM
Green Lantern makes me always more excited than the rest of the contenders, yes because of my reserved fanboyism towards it but also because of the less I see, the more curious I get. Captain America also has some of that reservation with it which kinda makes me more excited. Honestly, it so different from person to person it's borderline relative. When the new Green Lantern trailer arrive it will have a greater impact on all of us CBM'ers, no doubt.

@NerdAlert - You are absolutely right.
Angelus
Angelus - 3/4/2011, 5:05 PM
Thankfully Intruder states it's his opinion that GL was forced and not Thor.
mainstream05
mainstream05 - 3/4/2011, 5:05 PM
For a guy like me, who loves GL, I'm going to see the movie regardless. WB knows that, and the people complaining because they haven't seen more - what are you complaining about? I see people simultaneously say that they want to like the movie but haven't seen enough of it, and then say that they hate it based off the exact same information. If you haven't seen enough to like it, how have you seen enough to dislike it? It seems ridiculous to me.

But then again, one thing about the editorial rings true - it's going to do well amongst fans through sheer marketing. Iron Man 2 was not that great. It wasn't bad, but it certainly wasn't very good. But because Marvel builds up the hype train and freely shows fans what they want to see (look! Cap's shield! Avengers!), they make up their minds before they go to see the film. They already love the film and as long as they see what they saw in the trailers, they're happy.

WB is clearly not ashamed of GL, or they wouldn't have hired the same writers to already start working on the script for the SEQUEL, wouldn't be spending buttloads of money on toys and other merchandise, on tie-ins, on deals with other companies, on all this stuff. In fact, they may be holding off on showing more footage BECAUSE of fan reaction to the trailer. They might want to wait until the CGI is closer to complete than release something people will moan about. IMO, that's much smarter than just showing what they've got.

What works for Marvel is great for them. WB has been handing summer tentpole franchises for over a decade now, and I'm sure they're going to pick the strategy that works for them and GL. No need for everyone to get their undies in a bunch because they're marketing it differently than Thor and Cap.
Jolt17
Jolt17 - 3/4/2011, 5:08 PM
Excellent editorial, JOSH!

Well easy for me, GL's not complete yet especially for the CGI - and that's why WB doesn't market pics and trailers that many IMO.

Once it's all complete, pretty sure things will come out fast!

And it's better late than seeing half-done things and then becoming a letdown right?

As for Marvel, things are good and awesome!

Easy, buddies, GL + Cap + Thor = 2011 EPIC!

; )

@Guason damn you've got many epic THOR posters, the real stuff should be like that!


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