Joe Carnahan Talks In Detail About His Plans For A DAREDEVIL Movie At Fox

Joe Carnahan Talks In Detail About His Plans For A DAREDEVIL Movie At Fox

It was clear from Joe Carnahan's Daredevil sizzle reel that he had some very unique plans for a film based on the character, but with that no longer happening now that Fox are letting the rights revert back to Marvel Studios, he talks in detail about what we could have expected from his version.

By JoshWilding - Aug 15, 2012 09:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil
Source: Collider

Talking on The Radio Dan Show today (transcribed by our friends over at Collider), The A-Team's Joe Carnahan has talked more about his plans for a Daredevil movie with 20th Century Fox. However, as the studio failed to reach an agreement Marvel Studios, the rights will now revert to them, making it unlikely that we'll ever see the directors unique take on the character. Fox execs were apparently keen to move ahead with hos take on The Man Without Fear, but there simply wasn't enough time to make it happen before the October deadline. Below, he discusses why there just wasn't enough time to bring his version of Daredevil to the big screen.


"I was brought in pretty late in the game, and my take probably didn’t help matters since they had an existing script. But I just thought that if you were going to do it, this was the way to go. This is the way that intrigued me...It was initially something I passed on because Christopher Nolan had done such a lovely job with Batman and unless you’re going to go after that trilogy, then that’s how you have to think. You can’t out-hurdle that, then what’s the point of trying? So it set the bar extraordinarily high, and I thought ‘Well, if we’re going to do this, let’s have a discussion about Hell’s Kitchen, and how it was really Hell’s Kitchen in the 70s,” so that got me really excited. But as I mentioned, the clock ticking and this kind of October drop-dead date, it wasn’t tenable. And having gone down this road in the past when you’re trying to write something and shoot it at the same time is disastrous, and I think you’d need an adequate amount of time to put that script together in the right way. My brother [Matthew Michael Carnahan (The Kingdom)] was interested in writing it with me, so we’ll see."

While the film was set to be based on Frank Miller's "Born Again", Carnahan's plans to maintain the 1970s setting may have ended up being a controversial decision among some fans (similar to the initial reaction when it was announced that X-Men: First Class would be set in the 1960s). Here Carnahan talks more about why he believes that period would have been a good choice to set the film in.

"As I’m finishing my kind of reimagining of Death Wish, I think the 70s is figuring into my conscious and subconscious mind right now. I think it was the last time music and movies were just tremendous. We just cranked out some great stuff. I think that’s why the sizzle reel is able to be kind of abstract because people have such great fondness in their hearts for that decade, particularly the early part of that decade. I’m excited; you know the idea of having Daredevil on top of a building somewhere with the Serpico marquee in the background was enough, that image was enough, for me to want to make the movie."




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ATrueHero1987
ATrueHero1987 - 8/15/2012, 9:35 AM
I didn't have a problem with FC being set in the 60s. After all, the story was mainly about how Xavier & Magneto met and became friends. Though with DD, I would prefer it to be set in the present day.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 8/15/2012, 9:35 AM
I'm glad Marvel have another great character back, but I can't help but be intrigued by his take at the same time. The '70s setting might have taken some getting used to, but no doubt we would have had a super gritty adap of Born Again on out hands. Will Marvel go as dark as the character needs? Or will they go Mark Waid "Spidey-Devil" on us?
drewXdeficit
drewXdeficit - 8/15/2012, 9:42 AM
I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but this seems like it could've been just an awesome movie. I think he should take those ideas and convert them to a non-superhero film just for the hell of it.
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 8/15/2012, 9:44 AM
@Marvelpysco the 70s hell kitchen was a dark place and 70s crime lords are all really interesting and fit in really well with the whole daredevil has to fight ruthless crime lords.
SoFresh
SoFresh - 8/15/2012, 9:44 AM
Daredevil is gonna come back to Marvel?

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GeekyCheekyChic
GeekyCheekyChic - 8/15/2012, 9:47 AM
Tone was good,the decade choice was good- Marvel should have a separate division of films where they can put Cloak and Dagger,Heroes for Hire,DareDevil,Ghost Rider,Blade and Punisher.....ummm Marvel Knights sounds right ;) BUT!!! Fox should not be allowed to make comic book movies ever again.
iJackSparrow
iJackSparrow - 8/15/2012, 9:49 AM
Either Frank Miller's Daredevil or Mark Waid's Daredevil are fantastic. Mark Waid is BY NO MEANS "Spidey-Devil", only someone completely ignorant about the character's history would say that.

It's possible to achieve a Daredevil film, set in current time that deals with Born Again first and Mark Waid's take later, the other way around also seems cool. Actually the more I think about it, going for Mark Waid's take and getting to Born Again later seems more brilliant to me.
marvel72
marvel72 - 8/15/2012, 9:53 AM
marvel should just make daredevil with the same level of darkness as the dark knight trilogy or abit lighter in tone with mark waid's run.
iJackSparrow
iJackSparrow - 8/15/2012, 9:56 AM
@BattlinMurdock

Give me a link for me to check it out later!
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 8/15/2012, 9:58 AM
Part of the problem that Daredevil has is that it's set in a real place... Hell's Kitchen, New York. And, well... New York isn't quite the hell-hole that it once was. Real estate in Daredevil's neighborhood is now higher than the Manhattan average... It's gone upscale with luxury condos and such.

"Gotham" doesn't ever have to be anything other than a hell hole, but real cities change over time and the crime-filled streets of Daredevil are based on the past... Hence the 70's setting making sense.
ATrueHero1987
ATrueHero1987 - 8/15/2012, 9:59 AM
@Neos Isn't all of NYC more safer now than it use to be? I know I've read articles on Yahoo before saying that NYC is not as bad as it use to be...
FlappyJax
FlappyJax - 8/15/2012, 10:05 AM
Coming from a Daredevil lover, This could've been good in it was executed properly. They easily could have gone too over the top with the 70s theme, kinda detracting from the serious tone. And since we're talking good Daredevil writers, Ed Brubaker is my 2nd favorite, after Frank Miller of course.
95
95 - 8/15/2012, 10:08 AM
That is why I didn't like First Class. It had the style, but the script was a mess (b/c rushed schedule). Fox would of watered this down, as well. Also: Josh Trank's F4 reboot will probably be set in 1960s Space Race era! That's something I've always wanted to see, that decade is perfect for F4 (they were created at the time). But it's still Fox behind it— let's get F4 over at Disney, now! Disney can give their DD film a 1970s-styling. Same way Refn's neo-noir Drive had that style even when set in present day.
AwesomePromoz
AwesomePromoz - 8/15/2012, 10:10 AM
Everyone is trying to bring comic films into the modern era, but this guy wants to go back to the 70's? Good idea when it is a flashback in Watchmen, but not good for DD. Look at the current ongoing series for inspiration, it's the best book at marvel right now. Has this guy even watched Serpico? I don't know, I think his take would best serve an original character or an obscure one.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 8/15/2012, 10:12 AM
Ijack, DD is one of my fave characters, I am very familiar with his history. I like Waid's take but there is no denying that he "Spidey'd" him up a bit after some very (maybe too) dark interpretations that came before. I am not up to speed on his current run, but I hear that he has progressed a bit so I look forward to checking it out. That doesn't change the fact that the classic Daredevil character is a lot darker than anything marvel have attempted so far..is it not?
95
95 - 8/15/2012, 10:15 AM
Nicholas Winding Refn for DD? Anyone would like that? Drew Goddard seem more realistic. He's interested. He's a good writer. He makes watchable films (and Disney makes Marvel films that interest wider audiences, e.g. Thor). Above all that, he's close to Joss Whedon. So, as you can imagine, Whedon's phone is ringing off the hook for Goddard to get a meeting with Feige.
MarkV
MarkV - 8/15/2012, 10:15 AM
Guys, can you please, for the love of God STOP SAYING HELLS KITCHEN IS DIFFERENT NOW. Every other poster is saying the exact same thing you are!

/rant over
scmittydude
scmittydude - 8/15/2012, 10:16 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't marvel films only put out stuff that involves the avengers? Anyway
siggisuperman
siggisuperman - 8/15/2012, 10:18 AM
I would like to see Ed Brubaker's take on any superhero brought to the big screen. His Iron Fist run, Daredevil run, and ofc Captain America are all excellent. He is one of the best writers of today.
IronLeprechaun
IronLeprechaun - 8/15/2012, 10:20 AM
Please BattlinMurdock lol this will take you to your first film Carnahan

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fan_fic/news/?a=65478
marvel72
marvel72 - 8/15/2012, 10:22 AM
@ intruder

david fincher would be a great choice but can you see him being chosen.

@ siggisuperman

ed brubaker's run on daredevil is probably my favorite,especially matt murdoch in prison.

that is a modern classic.
95
95 - 8/15/2012, 10:23 AM
@scmittydude New York City is a big place. There's many stories that can be told deep within the city, it has a lot of problems. The Avengers have bigger threats to deal with. New York can be it's own world within the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Plus, after the Chitauri attack, NYC needs a good lawyer, lol.
riddlemethis09
riddlemethis09 - 8/15/2012, 10:31 AM
Two words for how DD would fit into the MCU... Marvel Knights. Dark, mature, thematic movies that stand alone from the MCU. Not every Marvel title NEEDS to be part of the Avengers Initiative. Punisher, Ghost Rider, Daredevil- let these brutal characters have their own tales.
IgnurRant
IgnurRant - 8/15/2012, 10:32 AM
Hell's Kitchen is nothing like it use to be. It was blatant. It's much more reserved. Carnahan had the right idea.

Sad it's going back to Marvel Studios. They are gonna skip the grittiness of Hell's Kitchen like they did to WW2 in TFA. Shame really.

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