Thank You Christopher Nolan

Thank You Christopher Nolan

Warner Brothers must do whatever's necessary to keep Nolan at DC.

Editorial Opinion
By nuclear139 - Jul 05, 2012 10:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic

As posted on the main here is the must read by the LA times and anyone who wants to know more about Christopher Nolan as well as what to expect from The Dark Rises should without delay read this excellent article from Geoff Boucher. In this era of the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street where Health Care, Debt and economics have become so polarizing that it has scarred the national politically debate and left the country with a bitter division that it has not been seen since the Civil War. So according to Boucher this film may shape up to be the most controversial film of the year because it deals with greed, hypocrisy and the lies that leads to the destruction of Gotham by Bane. Reading the article you get a sense that this film is not only the best in the series but may be the best of the year. My father said it is not what you're given that counts but it is what you leave behind for others and Christopher Nolan was given a dead franchise and he leaves behind the greatest cinematic comic book franchise in history. DC Fans must petition and put pressure on Warner Brothers as well as DC to keep Nolan involved in some capacity with the DC cinematic universe. He could be the greatest visionary in Hollywood and certainly the best working on comic book movies and more importantly we as fans need him. To let a talent like Christopher Nolan walk off into the sunset after The Man of Steel would be a tragedy that DC fans will regret for years to come.
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MisterFixit
MisterFixit - 7/6/2012, 12:35 AM
Nolan frankly is a pretty good one as many others. Reading some of you it seems this work could only be done by him, and now that is gone who knows what misfortune will fall on DC. It is full of good directors and writers (don't forget that the most part of the script is not by Nolan). There were before him and there will be later. He did a great job but we will never know how another director would get in his place. It's like when you see the perfectly cast of a character. "Oh my God he IS spiderman, he IS iron man, I can not even imagine anyone else who can take his place." Then someone takes his place and we all suddenly can imagine it.
95
95 - 7/6/2012, 1:04 AM
Godfather & Consultant.
forthesakeofnow
forthesakeofnow - 7/6/2012, 2:54 AM
as much as i have loved his bat films and im sure i will love tdkr. id much rather him focus on interesting original material than stick with DC making/overseeing comic book properties.

ive never been a huge comic fan but some of these films have got me interested enough to pay attention to them/see nearly all of them but im predominantly a cinema fan and i think nolan ending up as a fiege figure is a waste of his talents as an artist. it works with fiege as he is solely a businessman/producer.
plus ive never liked the idea of superman/batman/wonderwoman in the same universe. they were created separate they should stay separate
forthesakeofnow
forthesakeofnow - 7/6/2012, 2:56 AM
@3D

he is interested in batman and had an idea for superman they let him get off the ground.
you really want him to be forced to care about the flash, green lantern, wonderwoman ect?

like i said before id much rather he focus on his own stuff and leave the godfather stuff to a bare minimum
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/6/2012, 3:10 AM
You seem to forget that Nolan has stated numerous times that his Batman movies exist in their own world with no other heroes. He has alsk said the exact same thing about the new Superman film. Nolan has absolutely no interest in creating a unified DC film universe.

I really like Nolan's work a lot, but because of that reason, I think Its time for him to move on. He's holding back the unification of DC's films.
forthesakeofnow
forthesakeofnow - 7/6/2012, 3:29 AM
@CorndogBurglar

i agreed with everything you said until the last statement. i wouldnt watch a unified dc heroes film.
forthesakeofnow
forthesakeofnow - 7/6/2012, 4:32 AM
@pux

i saw it twice in fact. but it wasnt full of dc superheroes
forthesakeofnow
forthesakeofnow - 7/6/2012, 4:34 AM
@pux

i havent got as much interest in marvel heroes indiviually as i have a few of the dc ones so considering i enjoyed a few of the marvel solo films i thought i better go see avengers

in terms of dc im saying ill go see the solo films but i hate the dc team up idea enough to not put off seeing the justice league or whatever it would end up as.
forthesakeofnow
forthesakeofnow - 7/6/2012, 6:12 AM
@pux

i understand they have been teaming up for decades but again they were created as individuals in their own worlds. to me a superhero is someone who stands out amongst the rest. the symbol of good that stands out the most in contrast to the general population and of course in contrast to that of the polar opposite supervillian. in terms of story telling and character its infitnitedly less interesting to see a few heroes existing together and interacting than it is to see them all living in their own parallel universes never meeting.

the cool ideas and awesome fight you get from having batman superman and wonderwoman in the same world/city/room will never be able to match the importance and interest of when each of those heroes exists and the only superpowered force for good in their universe. thats my arguement atleast.

superman is the origin of this and the archetype. as soon as you put him on screen or on the page with wonderwoman it devalues her place as the strongest being on her earth who happens to be a woman in a mans world and as soon as you see superman in a batman world it devalues his place as a hero.

and no, i havent seen the animated justice league cartoons. i dont watch a great deal of television to be honest and south park is the closest thing i watch to a kids animated show. but im guessing your point is that they do some cool and interesting things mixing up the characters on that
forthesakeofnow
forthesakeofnow - 7/6/2012, 6:17 AM
@pux

and conversely i also see why people would think it was awesome to see their favourite heroes they have grown up with on screen together but i didnt grow up with this heroes, i have got interested in them as an adult who is a lover of cinema and story telling and for me an interaction between these heroes isnt something im interested in more than purely for entertainment value. seen in my viewpoint of the avengers being fun but nothing more than that. they wouldnt make the kind of justice league film i would want to see.

as much as i like nolans batman world and im interested to see what man of steel is like that is due to my love of the acting talent involved and the crews used. not because they are comic characters. i come on here because its the best place seemingly for news on the biggest sub-genre of films of the moment rather than because of a passion for the source material in anyway.

but im going off the point now lol
ralfinader
ralfinader - 7/6/2012, 6:22 AM
No thank you. Nolan can go on to do other things, the guy is not a DC fanboy, and outside of Batman, doesn't sound likes he wants to be in interviews. He is producing Supes, but only because he loved Goyer's script (written by Goyer, I will be suprised if Nolan takes a writing credit on MoS), but that doesn't make him the best fit for DC properties at all. Bruce Timm is the go to guy for something like this, but the WB lacks the vision to see anything past trilogies, and no shared universe.
forthesakeofnow
forthesakeofnow - 7/6/2012, 6:51 AM
@ralfinader

in terms of the writting credit, nolan was involved in coming up with the main idea for superman in the modern world for this film as well
forthesakeofnow
forthesakeofnow - 7/6/2012, 6:56 AM
@Pux

oh no its very much because it can imagine it working. im just imaginging it working in a way im not interested.

i didnt say it makes superman any less unique, like i said, his presence makes everyone else less special and i have nothing against the character for that, i just think its best not to do it and if and when they do, im not really interested in seeing the out come, but to be honest all it would take would be a great cast and crew involved and id problem end up seeing it regardless of my ideals lol

and again i know why it would be a cool concept in general. its just that my version of cool isnt the same as everyone elses.
ralfinader
ralfinader - 7/6/2012, 7:53 AM
@forthesakeofnow - Not really, at least according to what I have read:

"Impressed with Goyer's concept, Nolan pitched the idea to the studio, who hired Nolan to produce and Goyer to write based on the financial and critical success of The Dark Knight."

"Nolan says, "He (Goyer) basically told me, 'I have this thought about how you would approach Superman.' I immediately got it, loved it and thought: That is a way of approaching the story I’ve never seen before that makes it incredibly exciting. I wanted to get Emma and I involved in shepherding the project right away and getting it to the studio and getting it going in an exciting way… A lot of people have approached Superman in a lot of different ways. I only know the way that has worked for us that’s what I know how to do."

Where is a link to any article or interview claiming Nolan wrote MoS or contributed to the script at all? Until I see that, it just sounds like Nolanite fantasies when people make the claim he wrote the script for MoS.
marvel72
marvel72 - 7/6/2012, 8:20 AM

nolan made a good trilogy,well the first two are good don't know what the third is like.

anyway time to move on from nolan,there is just as good if not better directors than nolan out there let someone else give it a go.

we need,i need to see a dc shared universe & you won't get that if nolan is control of things.
95
95 - 7/6/2012, 8:20 AM
@forthesakeofnow

He can be the Godfather. And Paul Dini (I don't know much about him, but the fans think he's worthy) can be the Architect. The Kevin-Feige-role.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/6/2012, 9:05 AM
I confirm Ralfinador's Bruce Timm comment.
Denn1s
Denn1s - 7/6/2012, 9:29 AM
ummmm, no thank you. nolan is an amazing director but one superhero trilogy is enough. i want superheroes to be larger than life. enough realism. i want to see a proper chemical-bathed joker, poison ivy, mr freeze, man bat etc some day. i love nolan's batfilms but it is enough...
superbatspiderman
superbatspiderman - 7/6/2012, 9:53 AM
Just throw the magic pay check at Nolan and he'll stay. Same goes to Bale staying as Batman for a Justice League movie the magic paycheck will do the trick.
Gerrit
Gerrit - 7/6/2012, 10:12 AM
Nolan is great but he's not the one I would hand over DC films to. Some people need to stop putting him on a pedestal. His Batman franchise is the best CBM trilogy but that and MOS are the only things that interest him in DC.
Minotauro
Minotauro - 7/6/2012, 1:45 PM
@Marvel72 - "there are better directors out there than nolan". Your narrow minded vision makes me laugh. Try again marvelite, try again.

"Nolan made one the best CBM trilogies to date" - Marvel72.
Zarog
Zarog - 7/6/2012, 2:11 PM
@95 No to Dini. I love his work, but he is a writer. A brilliant writer. I would love to see story ideas and scripts come from him, but the architect most definitely needs to be the visionary behind the DCAU: Bruce Timm.

I liked Nolan's first 2 films, but frankly I'm ready for the films to get a chance to have new life injected in it so that we can see something like Clayface, the Hush story arc, Mr. Freeze (he just needs somebody to trust that he can hold a story together considering he is a sympathetic villain that can be done extremely well by Paul Dini as seen in Arkham City or TAS), or some other bizarre but exceptional characters on the big screen. That will never happen with Nolan.
thebamf
thebamf - 7/6/2012, 2:32 PM
The truth of the matter is that if Chris Nolan were to continue to make DC character movies, eventually people would get tired of them. It's hard to imagine that now, but trust me if you watch the same gritty take that's grounded in reality for every DC character, you will get tired of him. Fact of the matter is is that he was perfect for Batman. He rocked Batman hardcore. He's just not perfect for the all of DC though. A lot of DC characters can't be properly portrayed as gritty and reality based. I appreciate his version of Batman, but it is time for him to move on and for DC to get a fresh new look on their other characters.
95
95 - 7/6/2012, 2:33 PM
@Zarog

No, I agree with you about Bruce Timm. Recently, a lot of people told me: "No! Paul Dini!". I guess I'll just leave it at: Timm or Dini.
Supes17
Supes17 - 7/6/2012, 2:35 PM
@marvel72:
Nolan has expressed interest in producing Batman's reboot and helping out with a Justice League film...
he's not the reason we haven't gotten a JL DC shared universe film...

DC/WB were just major pussies for all these years..
Supes17
Supes17 - 7/6/2012, 2:36 PM
@shawnb:
Just because he made Batman a dark and gritty character DOESNT mean he would apply it to EVERY Superhero film out there.... Don't forget he's also doing Man of Steel..
95
95 - 7/6/2012, 2:40 PM
Nolan won't have a long future with DC (little-to-no creative involvement), but Warner is probably going to keep around as Producer for several more Superman and Batman films. The "Governor" of the Warner lot is bankable brand name.
95
95 - 7/6/2012, 2:42 PM
@Supes17 I agree. His "dark and gritty" take on Batman was Warner's request (they wanted a Year One adaptation). If Nolan were handed... say... Green Lantern... even if it's not his thing, and that doesn't mean he can't pull off a good Science Fiction.
thebamf
thebamf - 7/6/2012, 2:45 PM
@Supes17
I didn't forget.... you can clearly see his influence on Superman as well. I have no idea how MOS will turn out, but just from looking at Supes' costume itself, it is already darker. To me, Superman is supposed to be a beacon of light in the darkness.... He is not supposed to blend in with it. But having said that, I have hope that MOS will be a good film.
AC1
AC1 - 7/6/2012, 3:43 PM
I love Nolan's work, and while I'm sure that if he stuck around in some capacity for DC's future films that they'd benefit from it, I also wouldn't want to see him tied down to it. His Batman films are some of my favourite comic based films, but Inception is my favourite film, and it's an original. I'd love to see more of his original work in the future.

However... imagine two key producers of the future DC films leading up to The Justice League. Imagine if they were Christopher Nolan and Bruce Timm... that, would be the definition of epic.
marvel72
marvel72 - 7/6/2012, 6:06 PM
@ Minotauro

you say i'm narrow minded,listen to you riding his cock 24 hours a day.

"his made one of the best comic book movie trilogies to date"

can't argue with that but the bar wasn't exactly raised high in the first place & there isn't that many trilogies.

-the dark knight(2 good films maybe 3)
-spider-man(raimi two films)
-x-men(1/2 films i only like x-men 2,but others may like the first two)
-blade(2 films)

-superman quadrilogy(6 films in total two reboots)
-burtons batman(2 films)
-schmacher batman(2 films)
-the punisher(3 films but i think each one is classed as a reboot)
-iron man(2 films soon to be 3)
-fantastic four(2 films)
-ghost rider(2 films)
-hellboy(2 films)

if you know anything at all about films these directors are as good as if not better than nolan.

-martin scorsese
-francis ford coppola
-david fincher
-sir ridley scott
-brian de palma
-michael mann
-oliver stone
-stanley kubrick(r.i.p)
-quentin tarantino
-darren aronofsky

@ supes17

well nolan is responsable for batman & superman not being in a shared universe & i can see once nolan has finished with batman,warner/dc will be setting up a justice league movie & i bet next batman reboot will be shot in 3d.



Minotauro
Minotauro - 7/6/2012, 8:40 PM
@Marvel72 - I know a little something about directing. But, your "smear campaign" to discredit Nolan because he actually has a following(not me) is really amusing.
And No, I'm not a Nolanite. I'm a batman fan. Unlike, you. Which I already know what side your on, even if you read both properties. Hence "marvelite". ;)
forthesakeofnow
forthesakeofnow - 7/7/2012, 1:59 AM
@ralfinader

cheers for letting me know. i couldnt remember what i had read.

just meant that c.nolan was credited for story and his brother for script, both with goyer
marvel72
marvel72 - 7/7/2012, 9:53 AM
@ minotauro

you talk shit,you are 100% nolanite nothing else matters to you but your love for everything nolan.

i read snyder batman each month,i own batman arkham asylum & arkham city.

i own batman,batman returns,batman begins,the dark knight,batman gotham knights,memento & inception on blu-ray.

yeah i'm not a fan of batman,as i said his made some good batman films but i don't like the changes his made i.e bane,so don't talk crap about how great he is,guess what his movies have faults learn to live with it.

now its time to move on,bring on the reboot.
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