ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE: 5 Scenes In The Film It's Hard To Believe Joss Whedon DIDN'T Shoot

ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE: 5 Scenes In The Film It's Hard To Believe Joss Whedon DIDN'T Shoot

Joss Whedon reshot Justice League in 2017, but there are some terrible moments in the Snyder Cut that it's damn near impossible to believe were originally shot by Zack Snyder and not his replacement!

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By HamiltonParker - Apr 30, 2021 09:04 AM EST
Filed Under: Justice League

Zack Snyder's Justice League was a major improvement over Joss Whedon's 2017 cut, but not everything about the filmmaker's original vision worked. 

We're not talking about those not so great moments here, though; instead, this piece focuses on the scenes that, over a month later, we still can't believe weren't shot by Whedon. Why? Well, because they're cheesy, a little out of place, or simply don't feel like something Snyder would have wanted to film. 

It's possible these moments were a result of very early studio interference (we know Snyder was prevented from having Bruce Wayne embark on a romantic relationship with Lois Lane), but they all felt more Whedon than Snyder! 

Once you're done reading this feature, make sure to go and take a look at the 10 worst scenes The Avengers director added or changed in Justice League
 

5. Bruce...Bought The Farm?

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This scene works well enough, but the sort of dumb humor that encompasses this scene feels 100% Whedon.

So, in the wake of her son's death, Martha Kent lost the farm, right? Well, Bruce never bothered to step in and help her in the wake of Superman's death (weird when he bonded with the Man of Steel over her name and saved Martha's life in Batman v Superman), and instead waited until Clark was resurrected. 

It's pretty illogical, as is Bruce's decision to buy the bank rather than, you know, the farm. Not a lot of thought was put into this, and it's a scene that boiled down to a pretty dumb gag.

That feels 100% Whedon, hence why we're shocked it was a scene Snyder shot. 
 

4. "That's Rude"

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It seems Snyder took note of the scenes fans didn't like and quietly removed them from his cut of Justice League. Whedon was blamed for that goofy line about Aquaman talking to fish, but it was Snyder who shot it (it's easy to forget that it in the first trailer for the film that was released during Comic-Con). 

Jim Gordon actually has a smaller role in the Snyder Cut, but the second of the two scenes he is in isn't great. 

Just like in 2017, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Cyborg all somehow mysteriously vanish after meeting with the Commissioner...because the Dark Knight told them to before he got there?

He didn't tell the Fastest Man Alive because "LOL, Barry is fast, but not fast enough to disappear with the rest of them!" It's a stupid moment, but one we have to blame Snyder for.
 

3. Upskirt Wonder Woman Shot

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There are a lot of gratuitous shots of Wonder Woman in Joss Whedon's Justice League, including one we know Gal Gadot refused to film (when the Flash lands face first on her chest). 

However, we are surprised that one of the most talked-about moments is something Snyder can be credited with. Yes, this infamous upskirt shot of Diana Prince is present in the Snyder Cut, and a scene we now know the filmmaker was responsible for long before Whedon boarded the project.

Look, there's nothing too revealing or controversial here, but...well, that's one way to shoot Wonder Woman! 

We'd have placed money on Whedon adding this scene to a sequence that, overall, was vastly better in the Snyder Cut, but it thankfully doesn't overshadow the badassery that follows. 
 

2. The Hot Dogs

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Whedon has a pretty weird sense of humor, and while it worked more often than not in the MCU, it proved to be a bad fit for Justice League

With that in mind, it's a legit shocker that the director can't be blamed for the sheer level of stupidy that ensues when Barry Allen interviews for a job to be a dog walker. The slow-motion might be 100% Zack, but the weird hot dog stuff feels like something Joss might have added in an effort to add some levity to this dramatic rescue sequence. 

Nope. 

We don't know if this was all studio mandated, but the whole hot dog thing is really daft and not exactly a quality moment in Snyder's cut of the DC Comics film. 
 

1. "Kal-El, No!"

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Recently, reports of what happened on the set of Justice League in 2017 surfaced and we learned that Whedon clashed with Gal Gadot on a number of occasions. 

He locked Gadot's stuntwoman in her dressing room, and threatened to make her look bad in the film. That surely explains the goofy line delivery of "Kal-El, no!" right? Wrong. This was all Whedon and all Gadot back when they were shooting the film the first time around. 

It's a cringe-worthy moment in this otherwise badass fight scene, and one we've been trying to wrap our heads around for the past four years or so. Something clearly didn't work this day on set, and there's sadly no blaming Whedon for what went wrong with this moment.

Zack? You should have left this one on the cutting room floor.
 

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Ahhh
Ahhh - 4/30/2021, 9:02 AM
marvel72
marvel72 - 4/30/2021, 9:05 AM
Loved the movie,it's has its faults but a good enjoyable movie. I may have to watch it again.
MasterMix
MasterMix - 4/30/2021, 9:06 AM
Zack Snyder is also responsible for scenes like this:

Not sure why anyone's surprised.
colonel179
colonel179 - 4/30/2021, 9:33 AM
@MasterMix - What's wrong with this scene? He is just being romantic. Are you saying that movies should go back to the 50s where men and women have to sleep in separate beds and they can't touch each other? This is pathetic really.

The only scene that is wrong is the one where flash falls on Wonder Woman's chest. That was made with lewd in mind and not something organic. Other than that, get over it. People need to chill! One thing is to respect women (which we all should do), another is to thing that everything offensive.
Blergh
Blergh - 4/30/2021, 9:35 AM
@colonel179 - wiener in Iris face
Termin8er
Termin8er - 4/30/2021, 9:53 AM
@MasterMix - this is literally what i was just about to comment about. it's not like Zach knows how to do relationship chemistry with any subtlety at all. cavill and adams had ZERO chemistry
The1st
The1st - 4/30/2021, 10:50 AM
@colonel179 - Given Whedon's current predicament it's opens season I guess.

noahthegrand
noahthegrand - 4/30/2021, 11:03 AM
@colonel179 - I think the problem people have is that he steps into a bath fully clothed lol
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 4/30/2021, 11:22 AM
@noahthegrand - I mean, I guess Supes can blow his clothes dry in a second, but flooding the floor is kinda douchey to do to the downstairs neighbors, but this IS Zack Snyder's version of "Superman". 😉
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 4/30/2021, 9:12 AM
Everyone just schitting on Whedon like he was the one that fired Snyder and hired himself.
Origame
Origame - 4/30/2021, 9:31 AM
@slickrickdesigns - yeah whedon really wasn't the problem. He was coming in in the 11th hour on a film made by a very distinct film maker, given barely any money to just add some reshoots to make the story simpler and funnier. The theatrical cut was a studio mandate, not any individuals vision. I'd figure a whedon justice league would be vastly different that what we got had he been able to just start from scratch on the film.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 4/30/2021, 9:37 AM
@Origame - a Whedon Justice League film made by Whedon probably would’ve looked way different and character arcs would’ve been way different.
But hey let’s all hate Whedon because he was sexist, racist and unapologetic about the way he ruined Snyder’s vision.
Origame
Origame - 4/30/2021, 9:40 AM
@slickrickdesigns - well, its not always easy to look past a film makers horrible mistakes.
Razorface1
Razorface1 - 4/30/2021, 10:02 AM
@slickrickdesigns - He didnt ruin Snyder's vision. We got most of it on the screen a few years ago.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 4/30/2021, 10:08 AM
@Origame - well... Stanley Kubrick treated Shelly Duvall like crap and got her best performance ever with the shining.
Micheal Bay wasn’t cool to Martin Lawrence while making Bad Boys but that’s arguably Lawrence’s best movie.
James Cameron was hard to work with filming the abyss as he would yell at his actors and kind of torture them on set.
Whedon didn’t do anything new and he didn’t pull a Brian Singer or Harvey Weinstein. I think people need to get over his bad behavior and start asking why a studio would sabotage their own big budget film.
Origame
Origame - 4/30/2021, 11:23 AM
@slickrickdesigns - yeah but most of them probably wouldn't last with today's standards.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 4/30/2021, 1:20 PM
@slickrickdesigns -
good for a few hundred clicks though.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 4/30/2021, 9:15 AM
Enjoyed the overall portrayal of Bruce in the Snyder Cut. He seemed less like the butt of jokes here.
scoobyjas
scoobyjas - 4/30/2021, 12:22 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - I agree, he had trouble holding his own in the Whedon cut, he's more badass in Snyder's
Itwasme
Itwasme - 4/30/2021, 12:22 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - really? I personally felt Bruce suffered a lot in Snyder's version. In Whedon's cut he was a detective who figured out something was going on, whereas in Snyder's he just believed something was going to happen. In Whedon's Bruce's motivation to bring back Superman was all about how he felt to fight this threat, they needed a leader who he himself couldn't be. In Snyder's it was just about how Superman is really strong. There's a lot more layer and nuance to Whedon's Bruce and I think outside of Superman he was the character that was improved the most - by a longshot.
JonC
JonC - 4/30/2021, 5:02 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - "seemed less like the butt of jokes" means in the snyder cut he is still the butt of jokes, just less so. Good call. Not perfect in either. Gotta say Whedon had to work with Snyder's base materials so he was only going to do so much with it.
DalekCraigWasson
DalekCraigWasson - 5/1/2021, 5:12 AM
@Itwasme @ModHaterSLADE - I think the best and worst stuff for Batman in JL was in Whedon's cut. There's nothing as terrible in ZSJL as "Yup, definitely bleeding..." but nothing as good as "He was more human than me ... The world needs Superman and the team needs Clark." He was just kinda there honestly.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 5/1/2021, 9:31 AM
@DalekCraigWasson - yep, not a great line, though I do find it ironic that Whedon actually added more continuity with Zach's previous films. Still I'd rather have good characterization and deal with a bad line or a few. Batman's smart, that's the thing that made him bad ass, Snyder not once made him appear that way in this film. Whedon at least explains his actions so they are based on logic and his own detective work.
dracula
dracula - 4/30/2021, 9:19 AM
Would take this

Over any of snyder’s films
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