How Important is it for superhero movies to follow the comics?

How Important is it for superhero movies to follow the comics?

It's the issue that keeps us all traversing the internet: How are our favorite heroes keeping true the their comic book counterparts?

Editorial Opinion
By ironpool007 - May 22, 2011 02:05 PM EST
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Wow. Look at this past decade. So many of our favorite superheroes who were once thought to be only entertaining enough for children are now getting their own movies which then turn into huge franchises. Of course, movies and comic books are 2 very different mediums and sometimes things get changed from the comic when transitioning to the big screen.

This is mostly true when you have a character from Marvel or DC. The characters from those companies have been around for years, longer than the span of many of our lives. And, when you have characters that have been around that long, you are going to have some really powerfully awesome stories and you are going to have some really terrible cheesy stories. In these cases, the creators involved in the films try to pull from the better stories. Let's take Chris Nolan's Batman stories for example. As beloved as they are, you will also find a lot of people who think that the real world take on Batman that Nolan has employed robs Batman of some his more fantastical but still thought prevoking stories. I can accept tha changes that Nolan has made though, not because I am blind follower of his, but because I can see, where he takes his inspiration from. Nolan's Batman exhists in a very dark, gritty, and realistic Gotham City. And, therefore, his Batman stories tend to reflect the atmosphere of Batman: Year One and also takes story beats from The Long Hallowen. He then picks the villains who best suit his realistic approach or ones that he feels can be tweaked enough to his liking. Is it frustrating that under Nolan we will never see cool villains like Poison Ivy or see Batman ascend to the ranks of the Justice League? Yes, but on the other hand, Batman Begins gave us 2 really cool villains from the comics in the form of Scarecrow and Ras Al Ghul, and those guys had never been in a movie before. Then Nolan topped himself, giving us the best takes on Two Face and the Joker that we will probably ever see. And let's not forget that Nolan ultimately stays true to core of what Batman is; a troubled obsessed crime fighter who will stop at nothing to bring justice to the criminals of Gotham City.

On the other side of the table, we have Marvel Studios releasing individual films that will eventually lead up The Avengers. While the aproach being taken here has come beloved by fans, there are a select few who take issue with a few things. Mainly the fact that the cinematic universe pulls a lot of inspiration from the Ultimate univerese. Everything from Captain America's helmet to the huge presence of S.H.I.E.L.D. accompanying the Avengers has come under scrutiny. Ok. here's my take on that. Classic Marvel lore will always be special, but some of it is just downright campy. I mean look at the costume of Captain America. It looks great in the comic books, but seeing Steve Rogers run around looking like that in the upcoming film would be silly. The WW2 suit he wears in the first Avenger is more realistic with better armor, a helmet, and paratrooper straps. Another complaint about The Avengers is that it may not feature Hank and Janet Pym. Now I understand why purists would be upset. Afterall, Hank and Jan were in the original team's line up and Hank is responsible for creating the Vision and Ultron. But at the same time, I feel as though even they were not in the movie, it would not be a big deal. I mean look, we are getting 3 original team members. Iron Man, Thor and the Hulk. Add fan favorites and essentials like Captain America, Hawkeye, and the Black Widow, and I say this team will rock very hard in multiplexes all over the world. Plus adding in Maria Hill who only debuted a few years ago in the comics and Agent Coulson who was created for the movies and of course the Ultimate Universe version of Nick Fury just make this movie all the cooler. Some fans may complain that film does not resemble the original Avengers, but I say that mixing and matching is the best way to get good results.

But then you have franchise like X-Men from FOX which does mixing and matching to the max. I mean as far as I can see, Xavier, Beast and Magneto are the only people from the original comic. None of the others are original first class members in the comics. Plus in the current comics, Cyclops has taken up Xavier's role. In the movies, though, Cyclops is dead as is Xavier, leaving Storm and Wolverine to lead the team. Oh, and Xavier is still alive in the comics. Lets also not forget that in the comics Wolverine was an unwilling participant of Weapon X who upon his escape from that facility killed everyone inside. In the movies, he volunteers for the adamantium procedure, and escapes from the facility without shedding a drop of blood from anyone. FAIL! Look, I understand, things need to be changed and omitted when adapting huge comic franchises into movies. But, when this much gets changed, you have to wonder how much FOX cares about the fans as opposed to just putting a franchise out called X-Men.

Then you have comics like Watchmen, 300, and Sin City. Unlike other comic book movies which pull from different stories and eras, these stories made onto the screen with little to no changes, and really this was the best way to. Why? Because these comics were written to be self contained. They don't have years of continuity to sift through. There would no reason to change them because they are for the most part, one shots.

So at the end of the day, sometimes mixing and matching is good. Sometimes it's abused for the sake of marketing and just putting out a blockbuster. And sometimes, it is not needded at all. I learned long ago to accept change because I knew that not every detail on the printed page can o r should be on film. And for the most part, these changes, additions and omitions did not affect the core of the characters being portrayed. Therefore I'm happy. Because I want CBMs to flourish, and when one comes out, I'm gratefull. X-Men is one of the acceptions when it comes to abuse of source material. For the most part, characters from comics are making the transtition to movies quite nicely, and I couldnt be happier.

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killzonev2
killzonev2 - 5/22/2011, 2:28 PM
this isnt news, please put your stuff in editorials
ironpool007
ironpool007 - 5/22/2011, 2:33 PM
Oh. Forgot to select editorials as where it should go. Thanks.
Hellsing
Hellsing - 5/22/2011, 2:36 PM
yeah there pulling stuff from the ultimate version of the avengers, the costumes have been mixed as well but the personality of the characters from the movies I have seen are strictly 616(regular) universe. So I have no problems long as the Avengers don't become SHIELDs personal army I am cool, don't mind them working WITH them but not FOR them. And I haven't got problem with directors choosing the best storylines as inspiration and then creating there own unique story with it long as it works, like nolan did.
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/22/2011, 3:05 PM
well its not 100% necessary,but if you make a film for example x-men first class.

how hard is to follow the comic,i'm not talking pannel for pannel.

having the original five against magneto would of been a great starting point,then adapt a story around that.

also if you're gonna have a character called galactus in your movie make sure he looks like galactus of the comics & not a cloud.

marvel have got it balanced just right they share from both the 616 & ultimate universes & they make slight changes but thats fine they did create the characters.

they should be aloud to do what they like,unlike fox who don't even attempt to get anything right.
AC1
AC1 - 5/22/2011, 3:12 PM
@Marvel72 it pains me to agree with that, because I do like the X-Men films (except X3 and the 4th quarter of Origins) but you're right, Fox don't generally pay attention. They do seem to be getting better at story-telling at least though.

As for Galactus... I think film-makers should steer clear of him, no one wants to see an actor with a bucket on his head superimposed onto a scene to look like a giant. Galactus is a great character in the comics, but a prime example of great comic characters who will never work on screen if adapted identically (although by no means am I saying those characters should be clouds on film, F4 ROTSS sucked worse than the first one)
TopCat89
TopCat89 - 5/22/2011, 3:52 PM
@ACira I agree with you on that one, plus i too am a fan of a couple of the x-men films (easy watch). ROTSS was awful, however the cloud (Galactus) in my opinion was better than seeing an actors head blown up on screen....could never see that character working on screen, even with loads of sfx, blurred etc
TopCat89
TopCat89 - 5/22/2011, 3:53 PM
btw don't get me wrong...i hate FOX studios lol
Moakynubs
Moakynubs - 5/22/2011, 4:07 PM
We'll put it this way. If you have a movie called "X-Men: First Class" it should have the actual first class in it.
CraptainAmerica
CraptainAmerica - 5/22/2011, 4:50 PM
^BUT that's purely taking the movie by it's title. It's not the same story or continuity of the 'first class' comics run. It's not an adaptation. It's a movie that follows the continuity of the X-Men movieverse. The only way for it to have been the real first-class would be to reboot...and we know what feelings that conjures up on these threads
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/22/2011, 6:58 PM
@ acira

i thought fantastic four 2 was better than the first purely because of the silver surfer.

i know he was depowered abit,but it was still good to see him on the screen.

as for galactus a being that stands 50 feet high maybe more is alot more threating than a black cloud.

when i see a black cloud all i think is shit i've got to get in its gonna rain,not that my world is about to get eaten.
LeeShard
LeeShard - 5/22/2011, 7:39 PM
FOX doesn't care about any of us thats the problem, only $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

BS when ppl say word for word panel for panel... just having the basics would be nice and not twisted.
Jefferys
Jefferys - 5/23/2011, 12:48 AM
There's so many loop holes with in the X-Movieverse. But I love how the 'realistic' take these days; it attracts more 'outside' audience.
6of13
6of13 - 5/23/2011, 6:49 AM
I am going to agree with Intruder and Marvel72 about Galactus. If anyone is worried about Galactus's physical appearance in a movie - I think a good director, the cinematographer and art director etc can easily make a character like Galactus look threatening with their usage of light, colour, camera angles and character design. Movie making is still an art.
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