Probable Villain For The Amazing Spider-Man Sequel [SPOILERS]

Probable Villain For The Amazing Spider-Man Sequel [SPOILERS]

Many assumptions have been made as far as who will be the villain in The Amazing Spider-Man sequel. I've done my research and here's my prediction.

Editorial Opinion
By GoblinBomber - Jul 11, 2012 01:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

Most of you fanboys who stuck around to see if there was a sting at the end of The Amazing Spider-Man saw what Marc Webb decided to leave us with. It wasn't as clear and obvious like the sting left for us at the end of The Avengers, and it's too soon to start jumping to conclusions, but it is early enough for us to come up with a few assumptions.

After seeing Spider-Man I jumped online and went to my local comic book store [props to Visions of Comics and Cards] to see what people were saying about the sting, and some of the things I read and heard while talking to others were just bizarre. Mysterio? Doctor Octopus? I just don't even see how those names even came up. All we were left with was Dr. Connors sitting in his cell seeing him being visited by a dark older looking fellow in a coat.



The first impression I had was that Dr. Connors was confronted by Maxwell Dillon, an electrical engineer who was turned into Electro resulting from a freak accident on the power line transformer. It seemed to be the most logical villain. No one was in the cell when Dr. Connors was contained, all of a sudden lightning flashed and the stranger was in the cell with him, asking if Curtis Connors had told Peter anything about his father. After the 15 second conversation lightning flashed again and the stranger was gone. Electro was the first thing that came to my mind but then my brain wouldn't let go of the thought that we didn't get to see Norman Osborn at all during the movie. Just a blacked out billboard with an ant's eye view of his face.



This is when I started contemplating that the man in the cell was in fact Norman Osborn. It seemed like it was an older gentlemen who wasn't at the peek of health and the movie led us on to know that Norman Osborn is dying. Electro wasn't an older sickly man, but at the same time I don't want to throw out the idea of this next villain being Electro. There was an interview with Emma Stone several months ago saying that she was studying the Death of the Stacys series to study her role as Gwen Stacy. Which of course leads us all to wonder, will they kill Gwen in this upcoming trilogy? Those who read the original Amazing Spider-Man know that the Green Goblin was responsible for the death of Gwen, now if they do kill Gwen do you think that they'd do it as soon as the second movie leaving room for Mary Jane Watson to make a return? Or will they wait till the third movie to reboot the Green Goblin? Will they even use the Green Goblin? Or are the rumors of the Proto Goblin true?

As much faith I have that Marc Webb will just keep up the good work in making Spider-Man more like Spider-Man, I have a slight fear that he'll use someone else to kill Gwen. I hope that's not the case. Yes I know that the Lizard wasn't the original murderer of Captain Stacy, it was Doctor Octopus, but the murder of Gwen's father was only a stepping stone to the most traumatizing turn of events for young Peter Parker's life. I was completely fine with the Lizard being responsible, but I just don't see how I'd handle seeing Gwen die by the hands of anyone other than the Green Goblin.



So who would you like to see in The Amazing Spider-Man sequel? Who was the stranger in the cell? And will Gwen Stacy die in these next 2 movies? Comment below and let me know what you guys think. Thanks for reading!

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batmanmovie2012
batmanmovie2012 - 7/11/2012, 1:47 PM
FIRST and people think it's mysterio because he was able to get in and out of the room with no one noticing.
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 7/11/2012, 2:29 PM
What if its Miles Warren?
BigDamnHero
BigDamnHero - 7/11/2012, 2:56 PM
My guess would be Morbius, but I don't know... not sure if he's well known enough. And I do hope they kill Gwen at some stage, because it's such an important moment in Peter's story. But if they do, I really don't want them to introduce MJ as a love interest. That would kinda ruin it.
BANE5000
BANE5000 - 7/11/2012, 3:07 PM
@Tainted87

Hmmm that would be an interesting way to take this new franchise by not only making people think Osborne is gonna be the big baddie but revealing it was the Jackal all along behind the scenes. Maybe they can have in the next films Warren trying to perfect even more on Connors serum and testing it { forcibly or voluntarily } on Osborne due to his health issues, making him better but driving him nuts. But Warren still sees it as a success and tries it on himself and becomes Jackal, merely using Goblin as a pawn to cause pain and suffereing to Peter like in the Clone Saga.
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 7/11/2012, 3:23 PM
Thought a bit about it, huh? :P

I just threw it out there - the actor looks a lot like him in the face.
LegendaryOutlaw
LegendaryOutlaw - 7/11/2012, 4:25 PM
Emma is signed on for several movies so it could be the third movie or past that.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/11/2012, 4:36 PM
He was an older looking dude. So im guessing its not Electro. And we've already been told it isnt Norman either. So who knows...we can guess till the cows come home but the bottom line is nothing in the scene leaves any hints as to who it could be. No villains really match up with what happened except Electro, but he's too old to be Electro.
Minato
Minato - 7/11/2012, 5:37 PM
SPOT
Minato
Minato - 7/11/2012, 5:37 PM
lol joking
BlindLemonShemp
BlindLemonShemp - 7/11/2012, 5:55 PM
You guys... I got it!

Its the storyline from Edge of Time in movie form... The man in the cell was Peter from the Future!!

How did he escape the cell you ask?

Its Simple! The Peter of the Future is head of Oscorp or something like that and has all access to all sorts of parallel jumparoos and quantum time/ stargates.

your welcome... sorry Mr. Webb, back to the drawing board...
ULTIMOSPIDER
ULTIMOSPIDER - 7/11/2012, 6:08 PM
Lmao at Miles Warren

Anyway , you question the lightning flashing in Connor's cell, well if you watched the movie by now you would know that during *SPOILER* Capt. Stacy's funeral , Peter was hiding from Gwen's view in the upper part of the church , it is raining and looking to storm, then when Gwen comes by to see Peter and he kinda calls it off with her its raining and lightning.....so the Electro theory should be out the window.

It can be one of two people Norman Osborn or Norman Osborn

THE WHOLE POINT OF THE TRILOGY IS TO LEAD TO GWENS DEATH AT THE HANDS OF THE GREEN GOBLIN (way better design is a must)

I do hope it doesn't happen in 2 but lead up to Green Goblin....maybe introduce a sickly Norman Osborn and not have him take the Goblin Formula till the end of ASM2 to lead into Part 3....maybe introduce JJJ in 2, and Harry Osborn ....and a set of villains for Spider-man to amaze us against in 2.....then play out the dark times of Gwens eventual death in Part 3 and perhaps leave us to a new trilogy after the 3rd film and keep it going this time

And yes it would be wise to film TASM back to back for 2 & 3

Nuff Said
Denn1s
Denn1s - 7/11/2012, 6:27 PM
the fact that he disappeared in a flash of light might not be literal. he didn't just disappear. it was a directorial trick. remember how harry osborn disappeared from the coffee shop in SM3 after a truck passed by? i think it is osborn, not electro or mysterio
Denn1s
Denn1s - 7/11/2012, 6:29 PM
as for how he got in and out? he is norman osborn, a billionaire who can bribe anyone and get what he wants, namely, an open cell door...
BANE5000
BANE5000 - 7/11/2012, 6:31 PM
All i know is with Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman writing the sequel, i expect a great and well balanced story with plenty of action and see who they choose to include as the villian and if they still want to hint towards Norman appearing soon in the franchise.
shockwave26
shockwave26 - 7/11/2012, 6:44 PM
Between unfettered access to Connor's cell, the knowledge of Peter's parents, and the man in the shadows. It's easy for me to pretty much be certain that it was The Chameleon.
MrCameron
MrCameron - 7/11/2012, 6:57 PM
It's not Norman Osborne. Rhys Ifans said so himself. I'm thinking it's either Jackal or Mysterio.
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 7/11/2012, 8:55 PM
Norman Osborn - Rhys Ifans interview, character is canonically dying
Electro - No personal interest in Peter
Dr Ratha - Michael Massee is not Irrfan Khan
Sandman - No personal interest in Peter
Scorpion - " "
Kraven - Not suitable

Pulling names out of a hat, because really, we won't KNOW know until the sequel comes out. Webb wants us to spazz out about it until then.

I think its either Chameleon, Adrian Toomes, or Miles Warren.
SuperBatCap1
SuperBatCap1 - 7/11/2012, 9:17 PM
It's Electro. You don't just TWO lightning strikes for a character's entrance and exit and it not be Electro. That's just false advertising!
superotherside
superotherside - 7/11/2012, 9:36 PM
I have no idea. Great article though.
DanielSon15
DanielSon15 - 7/11/2012, 9:54 PM
I don't think it was anyone they left it ambiguous like that sorry can write in whoever they want in the sequel
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 7/11/2012, 10:51 PM
Ifans said it wasn't norman osborn so either he's lying or it truely is someone else. I could see electro being the villian but I can only see him being just a villian Spidey fights off. By that I mean GG will be introduced in the sequel but towards the end(45-30 mins left of the film). I think it's fairly obvious GG is gonna kill Gwen becasue they hint at Osborn a lot in the film and all the deaths in the first movie, it all just looks like its gonna add up to that one moment(also the " broken promises"). The Chameleon would fit perfectly in this universe, I actually already think they plan on using him at one point. I think he's gonna be Normans Hit man guy, he's gonna be the one who kills Richard and Mary Parker. Chameleon would be the perfect side/Plot character and by that I mean he has a connection to the actuall Plot and is not just there like electro is gonna be. All in all I think in the sequel we'll get electro as just a villian( flashes of lighting?) Norman was the guy in the cell(or someone else) and GG will be introduced in the sequel and is gonna kill Gwen(she's signed for 2 films I think) and its all gonna be a big cliffhanger like the empire strikes back.
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 7/11/2012, 10:53 PM
High hopes for the sequel should be the best Spiderman film ever
comiccow6
comiccow6 - 7/12/2012, 3:54 AM
The Goblin doesn't have to kill her. If it's based on the Ultimate universe, than could...Carnage!?!
kong
kong - 7/12/2012, 4:22 AM
@ comiccow Why do some many people say its based off of the ultimate universe. Its a mix of both. If it was based off of ultimate then Gwen wouldn't even die.
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I think that the man is Norman Osborn but they won't wait until the 3rd movie to introduce him and kill Gwen.
comiccow6
comiccow6 - 7/12/2012, 4:39 AM
@RedHood I think people say that because the Raimi trilogy had 0 comic elements besides the 'girl next door' MJ. The Ultimate elements in TASM overpowers the Raimi's Ultimate elements, and the movies Amazing elements.
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 7/12/2012, 5:40 AM
I don't think it's Electro because I've never scene Electro with a beard (if you look closely he has a beard). You can get a good look at the mystery man in a close up at http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/dcmarvelrelatedfilms/galleries/?g=1945&i=46972
comiccow6
comiccow6 - 7/12/2012, 7:25 AM
0 Ultimate comic elements.
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 7/12/2012, 8:34 AM
It just seems Ohhh that GG will kill Gwen, I mean think about it, they mention the guy a lot and Gwen's death has be foreshadowed and all the other deaths just make it that more likely.
AC1
AC1 - 7/12/2012, 9:02 AM
I have a theory too. At the beginning of the film, the Parkers flee their home because of a break in. Richard takes the time to clear his equations off of his black board first. Whoever broke in managed to do it quietly and with enough skill that they were undetected. Plus, the hat on the broom behind the curtain when Peter was playing hide and seek prior to this, looks a lot like the hat the man in shadows is holding.

Now, in the mid-credit scene, this mysterious character manages to break into the cell easily and completely undetected. We don't see how he enters, but we do see that he seems to vanish, meaning he's escaped in a practically impossible way.

I think the character may be Walter Hardy. Walter Hardy is the father of Felicia Hardy, aka The Black Cat. He was a cat burglar who was able to perform seemingly impossible robberies undetected, able to slip in and out of places leaving virtually no trace of how he did it.

This might be a stretch, but John Hardesky (the 90s Spider-Man Animated Series version of Walter Hardy) was imprisoned because he broke into a building during WWII and memorized the Super Soldier formula, doing so completely undetected then arrested years later. I think the opening of The Amazing Spider-Man may have been a reference to that, with the Super Soldier formula being replaced by the formula for cross species genetics Richard had been developing.

The fact that initially he left a broken window as a clue, and later left the cell in a seemingly impossible manner, suggests that he had developed his skills over the 10 year+ gap.

I think that Walter Hardy has been reimagined for this film as a spy/theif under the long-term employ of Norman Osborn, who commits acts of corporate espionage as well as using intimidation tactics.

Another hint toward this theory is Black Cat's inclusion in The Amazing Spider-Man video game. While the game will probably be written out of continuity by TASM2, it is still a follow up to everything that happened in the first film, including the mid-credit scene.

Anyway, I'm probably wrong but I thought I'd throw that out there, since I don't think anyone else has thought of this.
nosnegrom
nosnegrom - 7/12/2012, 9:13 AM
Sure he isnt bald but the actor is kind of bald so i was thinking vulture. Hes got a great voice for vulture
AC1
AC1 - 7/12/2012, 10:11 AM
@sosthetruth they're planning it as a trilogy that focuses on Peter learning the truth about his parents. It doesn't mean there will only be three films. It's just that this story-arc will make up a trilogy.
It's kind of like Star Wars. There are two Star Wars Trilogies - the Originals and the Prequels.

This way, it means that if they do only make three films, then at least we can count the last film as a proper end to the story, but it also leaves them room to continue to further stories. I also think that Gwen is going to be in all three films, and die in the third, so the next trilogy would focus on Peter moving on and eventually meeting Mary Jane. That is, if they do get that far. You also have to account for the fact that the actors will continue to age, and eventually might be too old to play the characters. So it really could go either way.
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 7/12/2012, 12:04 PM
I m betting it's gonna be a trilogy and Gwen's gonna die at the end of the sequel and MJ will be introduced in the sequel.
topcat10
topcat10 - 7/12/2012, 12:14 PM
Norman Osborn is too obvious so how about Peter's father Richard Parker or Professor Smythe (Spider-Slayer's creator) or Silvermane (old guy gangster)
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 7/12/2012, 12:52 PM
Smythe isn't gonna be in it Becuase he was in the game, any one in the game will not appear in the series.
AwesomeGuy36
AwesomeGuy36 - 7/12/2012, 1:40 PM
Honestly, has anyone heard of Shocker? It completely explains the cowboy hat. U guys don't even know the rogues gallery right.
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 7/12/2012, 2:07 PM
That's not a cowboy hat, it's a fedora, Norman Osborn in the orginal comics wore a fedora to conceal his identity. You don't know the rouges gallery right either dude.
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 7/12/2012, 9:00 PM
I dont read comics lol I know a lot about spiderman though, there's no comic store near by so I can't.
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