SPIDER-MAN 4 Rumored To Feature Greater Level Of Connectivity Between MCU And SSU Ahead Of Possible Merger

SPIDER-MAN 4 Rumored To Feature Greater Level Of Connectivity Between MCU And SSU Ahead Of Possible Merger

Well, <><> isn't how we wanted to end the week. According to a new rumour, Sony Pictures is pushing for a greater level of connectivity between the MCU and "Sony's Spider-Man Universe" in Spider-Man 4.

By JoshWilding - Nov 17, 2023 03:11 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

We'd hoped to end this week with a Fantastic Four casting announcement; instead, we're probably about to ruin a lot of people's Fridays. 

Sony Pictures and Marvel Studios first reached a deal to share Spider-Man in 2015. With that, the stage was set for Peter Parker to join the Marvel Cinematic Universe in Captain America: Civil War. After lending Iron Man a helping hand, Tom Holland's web-slinger went on to star in Spider-Man: Homecoming, Avengers: Infinity War, and Avengers: Endgame.

However, when cameras were rolling on Spider-Man: Far From Home, Sony execs decided they no longer needed Marvel Studios' help and, with that, Spidey was set to swing back into what's become known as the SSU (Sony's Spider-Man Universe). 

Had that happened, Spider-Man: No Way Home would have looked a lot different and we still don't know how Peter no longer being in the same world as The Avengers was going to be explained. Common sense eventually prevailed and a new deal was struck to keep the wall-crawler in the MCU. For now, at least. 

It's an agreement which clearly won't last forever, and scooper Daniel Richtman - who broke the Pedro Pascal/Mister Fantastic casting news - is today reporting that Spider-Man 4 will feature more connections to the SSU. The idea is for this to pave the way to a potential merger of that world and the MCU. 

What we don't know is whether this means Peter is heading to the same world as Venom and Morbius or if those characters are being pulled into Earth-616 in time for Avengers: Secret Wars

We'd like to think Sony plans on letting Marvel Studios take charge of its Marvel slate, but that's wishful thinking. Instead, they likely want the hero back and this is the beginning of the end of his time in the MCU. With that in mind, chances are we're getting Spider-Man 4, an appearance from Holland, Tobey Maguire, and Andrew Garfield in the next Avengers movies, and then it's back to Sony he goes as Kevin Feige shifts focus to the X-Men and Fantastic Four.

There have been signs something Multiversal could be in the works for the next Spider-Man adventure as it was recently reported that Michael Keaton's Vulture will return (the last time we saw him, he'd been stranded in the same reality as Morbius). Some scoopers have also hinted that the movie will feature Maguire's Peter Parker.

This likely means a street-level adventure is off the table, a shame when Spider-Man: No Way Home so perfectly set the stage for the franchise to head down that route. Still, it's early days and nothing is confirmed so we'll have to wait and see where this takes us. 

Spider-Man 4 is currently expected to swing into theaters in 2025.

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FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 11/17/2023, 3:10 PM
Well, everybody’s making trash together now, so might as well merge this shit.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 11/17/2023, 3:25 PM
@FireandBlood -


Nah, one is trash and the other is diarrhea.


💁
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 11/17/2023, 3:27 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - Idk, man. Secret Invasion looking pretty diarrhea-like from where I’m sitting.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 11/17/2023, 3:30 PM
@FireandBlood -


It was pretty trash and that ending was diarrhea but overall Sony is just shit.




FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 11/17/2023, 3:34 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - They are, there’s no denying that.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 11/17/2023, 3:44 PM
@FireandBlood - @ AmazingFILMporg - Can we all just stop being dramatic here? Sony is definitely shit. But MCU is still what they’ve ALWAYS been. Mostly gold with a few misses here and there. This isn’t fanboy talk. This is actual fact. Phase 4 reviewed better than Phase 1 and 2. So even tho the new saga fell short on a couple projects, that’s nothing new. People just weren’t as heavily scrutinizing back in the first saga.

Let’s all just talk in facts from here forward.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 11/17/2023, 3:49 PM
@Tonic24k - We know this. Obviously my comment is a complete and total over exaggeration on my part. But Marvel’s been slacking lately big time. There’s no ignoring that, and they know it, too.
The1st
The1st - 11/17/2023, 3:51 PM
@FireandBlood - and watch it blow lol...in the wind.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 11/17/2023, 4:05 PM
@AmazingFILMporg -























"Tiarrheash"

Tīre-reh-ăsh!




lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/17/2023, 4:53 PM
@FireandBlood -
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lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/17/2023, 5:06 PM
@FireandBlood -





AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 11/17/2023, 3:10 PM
Yikes.




Sony marvel films makes Thor love and thunder look like Oscar films👮😑💁


Terrible idea.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 11/17/2023, 3:15 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - You would be correct if you had mentioned almost any other MCU movie, but Thor 4 is not better than Venom.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 11/17/2023, 3:17 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - I'd watch any Sony film over Thor 4
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 11/17/2023, 3:17 PM
@Urubrodi -


It's better than most of the shit Sony makes.


Venom 2, morbius and from the looks of it madem web🤣
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 11/17/2023, 3:17 PM
@HashTagSwagg -


You have brain damage👮
mountainman
mountainman - 11/17/2023, 3:36 PM
@Urubrodi - I’d argue that Thor 4 was worse than every Sony Spiderverse movie ever made, even Morbius and Amazing 2.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 11/17/2023, 3:42 PM
@mountainman -


Oh no....


His form of brain damage must be contagious....


You have to quarantine😳!!!!
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 11/17/2023, 3:47 PM
@mountainman - Thor L&T was bad, but let's not revise history and pretend it's worse than Venom 2 and Morbius.
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 11/17/2023, 4:06 PM
@HashTagSwagg - I'd watch any political announcement over love and thunder
mountainman
mountainman - 11/17/2023, 4:11 PM
@comicfan100 - It may not be worse, but it made me more mad and disappointed watching it.

At least Venom 2 had the over the top Woody Haroldsen performance and Morbius had the over the top Matt Smith performance. They were both bad movies but I certainly enjoyed hate watching them more than watching Thor 4.

Neither had screaming goats. Neither made fun of cancer. Neither had Odin in a dress acting lame. Neither pitted an army of children against the final villain.

All three movies suck though 🤷‍♂️
mountainman
mountainman - 11/17/2023, 4:12 PM
@mountainman - *Zues in a dress acting lame
mountainman
mountainman - 11/17/2023, 4:13 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - Oh I’m headed out and about to be a super spreader of this!
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 11/18/2023, 9:50 AM
@mountainman - my friend.. this is where we disagree BIG time. Id watch Thor 4 over ANY garage pile of shit Sony has released
mountainman
mountainman - 11/18/2023, 10:45 AM
@MotherGooseUPus - I really never in my life plan on rewatching Thor 4, Morbius, Venom 2, Ant Man 3, X-Men Origins Wolverine, Suicide Squad, Justice League, or many other terrible CBMs.

Ranking how atrocious each one isn’t of much value. They are all insults to the genre. Thor 4 just stands out because it’s the worst MCU movie ever.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 11/18/2023, 11:59 AM
@mountainman - yes, yes it is a waste of time and thought lol. im just saying, personally id rather watch it than any Sony CBM. I did rewatch Thor 4 a few months ago for shits and giggles. It has a few shining moments in an otherwise complete let down of a movie i had very high hopes for.

in terms of MCU movies, i still think Iron Man 3 or Thor 2 are the worst movies... but anyways... i agree with what your getting at
mountainman
mountainman - 11/18/2023, 3:55 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - Side Note - The wife and I got out for a date night last night. Local theater was playing Oppenheimer so we decided to check it out.

Dang man, that movie was so great. The performances, the music, the tension in some of those scenes. I felt it was absolutely amazing.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 11/18/2023, 5:03 PM
@mountainman - my man! I saw it opening night. BEST movie of 2023. I liked it better than MI DR part I.. and I'm a HUGE MI fan. Glad u finally saw it and both liked it. I will be buying that day 1 when it's available
mountainman
mountainman - 11/18/2023, 9:41 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - It was insane to me how exciting it was and how fast it moved for a movie about science and courtrooms.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 11/18/2023, 10:27 PM
@mountainman - I'm a mechanical engineer so for me I f*cking loved the science/math/engineering behind the movie

Beyond that.. it was truly a brilliant movie that will absolutely live on and stand the test of time

God bless Nolan, McQ and Dennis for saving cinema 🎥
BlackSpider
BlackSpider - 11/17/2023, 3:11 PM
Peter Parker: Who are you man?

Morbius: Im morbius

Peter Parker: Ok Mr Morbius, im peter btw

Morbius: Intrigueing

AC1
AC1 - 11/17/2023, 3:11 PM
No thanks
marvel72
marvel72 - 11/17/2023, 3:12 PM
All the shit now connects....

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