SPIDER-MAN 4's Working Title Has Been Revealed And It's Generating Some Major Gwen Stacy Speculation

SPIDER-MAN 4's Working Title Has Been Revealed And It's Generating Some Major Gwen Stacy Speculation

With Spider-Man 4 gearing up to begin shooting next year, the movie has been given an intriguing working title which appears to be referencing a famous Peter Parker/Gwen Stacy love story. Check it out...

By JoshWilding - Nov 17, 2024 03:11 AM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man
Source: The Cosmic Circus

Despite rumblings that Spider-Man 4's shooting start date could be delayed (we've heard that Jeff Sneider is, once again, way off base on this one), the movie now has a working title. 

The Cosmic Circus has learned that the Marvel Studios/Sony Pictures co-production is being shot under the name "Blue Oasis" with Blaze Film, Inc. being used as its production company. What, if any, significance does this working title have? 

Well, Spider-Man: No Way Home was dubbed "Serenity Now," so we wouldn't put too much stock in any theories you see floating around. 

However, the site has correctly pointed out that the Blue Oasis colour bears a striking resemblance to the imagery used in Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale's critically acclaimed Spider-Man: Blue comic book series. The series revisited the story of how Peter Parker and Gwen Stacy met and fell in love, and with Spidey reportedly heading to college, it's possible he'll finally meet Earth-616's Gwen in Spider-Man 4

As a footnote, the report adds, "Our sources confirmed that once again, the events of the next Spider-Man film will take place AFTER Avengers: Doomsday, meaning it will not be a prequel to the events of the upcoming Avengers film."

While this working title shouldn't be taken as any sort of confirmation that Gwen will appear in the movie, there have been rumblings this week about Madelyn Cline joining Tom Holland and Zendaya in the movie. 

At the time, many fans were quick to point out what a good fit she'd be for Felicia Hardy/Black Cat. However, an argument could definitely be made that Cline would be a great Gwen Stacy as well. We'll have to wait and see. 

"I read it three weeks ago and it really lit a fire in me," Holland said during a recent podcast appearance. "Zendaya and I sat down and read it together and we at times were like bouncing around the living room."

"Like this is a real movie worthy of the fans’ respect, but there [are] a few things we need to figure out before we can get that really going. But it’s exciting and I’m really, really excited about it."

Holland added, "Obviously, one of the things to like bear in mind with Marvel is that there is, your film is a small cog in a large machine, and that machine has got to keep running, and you need to make sure that you can fit into that timeline at the right time to benefit the bigger picture."

"I feel like I owe it to [fans] to give and deliver the best version of what the next chapter for Spider-Man looks like, and I think that's really important, and I think the creative integrity for something like that is really important, and the studio is on board and supportive and really collaborative."

Spider-Man 4 has been officially dated for July 26, 2026 with Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings director Destin Daniel Cretton helming a script penned by Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers.

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bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/17/2024, 4:01 AM
I really hope there is no truth to it not leading into Doomsday. Just make it a street level story. It not being released earlier is probably due to there not being room on the slate.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 11/17/2024, 4:27 AM
@bkmeijer1 - They could throw a street level story together in no time, with a much lower budget than usual. It's money on the table they could push one out for next December (same month NWH came out) and then do this Battleworld movie later.

Make Secret Wars a two-parter and you could push the Battleworld movie to summer 2027.
IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 11/17/2024, 5:58 AM
@bkmeijer1 - Wait, so do you want it to lead into Doomsday or not? Between the double negatives, the release date, and what you’re asking for, it feels like the movie is crossing itself out with everything.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/17/2024, 8:32 AM
@ObserverIO - yeah, shouldn't be too difficult making a street level story.

As for a Battleworld movie? No thanks. I rather just see the sony villains be brought over to the MCU after Secret Wars and do the cross-over then.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/17/2024, 8:35 AM
@IAmAHoot - okay yeah, I did use a lot of negatives there. Didn't realise that.

What I meant is that I do wanna see it take place before Doomsday. Only reason it's released after Doomsday is because July 2026 was the first available date on the MCU slate.
TheBigLebowski
TheBigLebowski - 11/17/2024, 4:05 AM
Nice reach!
MartianManHuntr
MartianManHuntr - 11/17/2024, 5:48 AM
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DocSpock
DocSpock - 11/17/2024, 7:18 AM

I could dig this. It would mean the sh!tty ASM movies were finally rendered completely irrelevant.

And yes Brits @ Gen Z dorks… They sucked!!!!
bobevanz
bobevanz - 11/17/2024, 7:30 AM
Blah blah blah
Slotherin
Slotherin - 11/17/2024, 8:29 AM
Considering Blue was him reminiscing over her years after her death I'm gonna guess there's absolutely no relation. But we knew better coming here, didn't we?
micvalpro
micvalpro - 11/17/2024, 2:15 PM
Such a wasted opportunity this trilogy was. They could have introduced all the characters properly the way they did in the comics, but instead it became a jumbled mess. Gwen, Harry, Ben, should have all been there from the beginning. Having all these characters be under Marvel meant for us to get the definitive versions of them on screen.
TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 11/17/2024, 3:12 PM
@micvalpro - To be fair, in the original comics Peter didn't meet Harry or Gwen until he went off to college.

Unless you'd go the Ultimate Spider-Man route.
Spidey215
Spidey215 - 11/17/2024, 6:48 PM
@micvalpro - well this 2nd trilogy is supposed to give us that opportunity. I’m glad the first trilogy gave up time away from those characters so now we can take it more seriously.

But honestly people love to blame Sony when behind the scenes I actually think Fiege and Marvel are actually all game for more multiverse, off-world, avengers level spider-man.

When the fans clearly want a street level , ground trilogy.

TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 11/17/2024, 3:15 PM
The idea of introducing Gwen Stacey and Captain Stacey would've been perfect for a street level story focusing on the hunt for vigilanties. The Police Department's stance would've been a cool way to show more of how that tension would strain Peter and Gwen's relationship. This is starting to sound too familiar to The Amazing Spider-Man. haha
DesiSpiderman
DesiSpiderman - 11/17/2024, 4:07 PM
@TheRationalNerd - lmao that’s literally the plot of ASM 😂
TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 11/17/2024, 10:10 PM
@DesiSpiderman - 😂😂😂 crap
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 11/17/2024, 6:27 PM
Yeah I think it’s better if it’s released and takes place after avengers because that will give us a better chance at a street level story. If before, they’ll use it to set up avengers and it would multiverse crap.

Also, Zendaya AND Holland read the script together?

Well there you have it folks, zendaya’s mj ain’t going nowhere.

Sorry black cat…your time will never come.

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Forthas
Forthas - 11/18/2024, 9:07 AM
If Gwen Statcey does make an appearance I hope she looks exactly like...Freya Allen

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