SPIDER-MAN: BRAND NEW DAY - Has Peter Parker's Amazing New MCU Costume Been Revealed In Promo Art?

@AC1 - agreed

Like I get merchandising and all that but still , it can be too much or even unnecessary at times.

@Scarilian - I mean this writing duo has delivered one of two consistently well-received MCU trilogies so I have faith in em

@Scarilian - So they wrote one forgettable Marvel film and 3 that were really good. Yeah still a tip in their favor.

"No Way Home abandoning the concept of Spider-man being Public Enemy Number 1"

Except its present throughout the film, with Peter having to leave his house, being harassed when going to school, having his future prospects ruined, his friends suffering, being arrested and interrogated, his costume being stained for half the film, Jameson further fueling this outrage by slandering him, etc.



Spider-man: No Way Home forgot that Peter had already had the 'with great power comes great responsibility' from Uncle Ben already. No it didn't. Much like the original issue of his debut, Ben didn't give him a speech. Instead, Ben's death taught Peter the price of doing the wrong thing. Whereas May taught Peter to live with the price of doing the right thing.

"I don't have faith in them when so far their Peter has not learned or grown as a character over the course of the three films they have made."

He started off as an impulsvie dude who thinks he's so beyond his normal life and wants the popular girl while becoming an Avenger, to someone more overthinking dude who's dating an outcast while excited for university and not wanting anything to do with that stuff. He has very much learned and grown each film.

"He learns the exact same lesson each time as opposed to the Raimi or Webb films where he is forced to confront different aspects of himself."

Oh boy. Lets go over that shall we? Starting with the MCU:

Homecoming: Learn the value of being Peter Parker and helping the little guy instead of wanting to be a big time superhero.

Far From Home: Learn to believe that Spider-Man is enough, and he doesn't need to listen to others wanting him to be like Iron Man. (builds from the previous film's lesson). This also extends to his Peter Parker subplot. Essentially accepting that he doesn't need to be perfect to be worthy of love.

No Way Home: Learn to let go of everything and everyone to do the right thing. Also learning to move forward when things are ruined.

Now lets look at the Raimi films:

Spider-Man: Learns that he can't be with MJ because it's too dangerous. That he needs to put doing what's right ahead of what he wants.

Spider-Man 2: Learns that he can't be with MJ because it's too dangerous. That he needs to put doing what's right ahead of what he wants. (speaking of repeating the same lessons).

Spider-Man 3: Revenge bad.

Now the TASM films:

TASM: Learn to let go of Gwen or else she'll be in danger...but he doesn't. Also your past doesn't matter, so don't obsess over your missing parents (him packing away the briefcase).

TASM2: Learn to let go of Gwen or else she'll be in danger....but he doesn't again...then she dies. Also he obsesses over his parents again.

Repetitive. Sure they do different things, but i'm only analyzing it the same shallow way you approached the MCU trilogy. Gotta be fair right?


"Homecoming is him balancing his life" (uh no. He's doing the oppoisite of that. On purpose. He only wants to be Spidey.) It's him learning to be Peter again (Choosing to be a friendly neighborhood Spider-man).

"Far From Home could have been tackling grief"

It is. Peter's anxiety attack at the benefit, him avoiding anything to do with Tony throughotu the film, changing the plane selection the second Tony shows up, talking with Beck on the roof, talkinig with Beck in the bar, breaking down crying in the plane. That's more than 3 instances. And that's not even mentioning his senses being on the fritz due to his grief, which is what allows Mysterio to even have that upper hand most of the film.

The glasses thing doesn't even happen til halfway through the film.

"No Way Home is him taking responsibility for his mistake (The Spell)" but he accomplishes that like 40 mins into the film. When he captures all the villains. That's done. From that point on, the film goes on because Peter also makes the choice to help them. He didn't need to. But that's who he is. Then when that goes wrong (being Spider-Man hurting hiim personally is a big part of the character), it's learning to move forward.

"consistently disregarded the post-credits that they set-up to tell a completely different story" NWH pretty much shows that they don't always do that, as I've explained how.

"No Way Home ended with him ditching being Peter Parker and focusing on being Spider-man with the Venom symbiote left in his reality - completely and utterly alone and depriving himself of human connections"

And a movie where he learns that he doesn't need to keep doing that forever? Sounds good. Especially if they handle it with the consistency at which they've built upon the previous films so far.

So yeah. I have faith in this writing duo.

@JustAWaffle - big eyes that move, that's what it needs!

@Yellow - Different lenses, different blue, different logo

Idk man

@TheFinestSmack - LMAO, did he really?