THE FLASH: Hot Toys Has Canceled Its Upcoming Young Barry Allen Figure (But Not For The Reason You'd Expect)
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THE FLASH: Hot Toys Has Canceled Its Upcoming Young Barry Allen Figure (But Not For The Reason You'd Expect)

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Watchingme
Watchingme - 6/20/2022, 12:09 PM
"Future Barry is electrocuted, but doesn't become The Flash. Dejected, he begins to lose hope until Supergirl - now suited up - flies him into the sky into the lightning. Unfortunately, it appears to kill him!"

Ah perfect. We have the new editied version WB. Roll the credits after this scene.

TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 6/20/2022, 12:28 PM
@Unconforming - The problem is the other Barry is also played by Ezra, and you still have the whole third act the edit him out.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/20/2022, 2:48 PM
@Unconforming - would be wild if Hideo Kojima actually rewrote it
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 6/20/2022, 12:11 PM
I'll read it after the movie is canceled.
GirshwinDavies
GirshwinDavies - 6/22/2022, 11:50 AM
@THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - LMFAO
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 6/20/2022, 12:12 PM


*nyuk nyuk*
Forthas
Forthas - 6/20/2022, 12:14 PM
They spent $200 million for that! This looks like another money loser and that is BEFORE factoring in the Ezra Miller saga. When I wrote an article in 2013 about how not using the Dark Knight films and Man of Steel as the foundation of the DC universe would result in disaster...never in a million years did I dream it would get this bad. Hate to say I told you so but...

https://comicbookmovie.com/justice_league/editorial-not-including-the-dark-knight-trilogy-in-a-dc-universe-is-a-recipe-for-disaster-a82733#gs.45z9b9
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/20/2022, 12:21 PM
@Forthas - I personally think using The Dark Knight movies as a foundation would be a mistake.

Bruce retired at the end and settled down with Selina. So either the Batman in that world would be Joseph Gordon Levitt, and I think we can all agree that would be really weird.

Either that, or JGL would be Nightwing, and there would be no Batman.

Or, Bruce comes out of retirement, which severely cheapens the entire meaning of the Dark Knight trilogy.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 6/20/2022, 12:29 PM
@Forthas - Starting a shared universe adapting The Dark Knight Returns, literally conceived to be the FINAL Batman story, is something that, almost 10 years later, I still cant understand.
Forthas
Forthas - 6/20/2022, 12:31 PM
@CorndogBurglar - I hear this bit about him retiring over and over and it still makes no sense. Batman retired at the end of the Dark Knight...you know how they made the Dark Knight Rises?....he unretired!

Toney Stark retired at th end of Iron Man 3, you know how they went on to make three more Avengers films, a Spiderman film, and the third Captain American film featuring Tony Stark...he unretired!

" Bruce comes out of retirement, which severely cheapens the entire meaning of the Dark Knight trilogy."

Unretiring had NO effect on Iron Man!
Forthas
Forthas - 6/20/2022, 12:34 PM
@TheHumanSpider2 - Then do you understand Alien? Return of the Jedi? Top Gun? ... because it was not until after those films successes were their sequels even contemplated. All of those films were made as final films for their respective franchises.
IronSpider101
IronSpider101 - 6/20/2022, 12:54 PM
@CorndogBurglar - I think it could work. The beauty of the Nolan trilogy above all else is that they really did capture a broad strokes Batman career. He's fought multiple villains, he had all of his big moments:
Origin
Loss of a loved one (Rachel instead of Jason Todd)
Got his back broken

The Bale Batman would've been perfect because not only is he already seasoned, but he's done the solo Batman career. Responding to a world becoming increasingly filled with meta-humans and becoming a part of a larger team of heroes, even as a mentor, would be a step forward for the character's growth and story.

You wouldn't even need to make it the exact same version if you wanted to preserve the integrity of the Nolan series. Just make it a multiverse version that's meant to be mostly the same but with variations to his story.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/20/2022, 1:44 PM
@Forthas - There's a HUGE difference. Ever since Batman Begins there was an ongoing theme of how long Bruce would put up this fight. Alfred was constantly mentioning how Bruce couldn't do this his entire life. Bruce's own plan was to quit and settle down with Rachel until she died. And he only retired at the end of Dark Knight because he HAD to.

All of that is why him retiring at the end of TDKR matters. He found a "replacement" (for lack of a better word) for Rachel with Selina, and he followed through with his plan to live the rest of his life happily and away from a war on crime. He found peace. That's why it's meaningful.

Tony Stark coming out of retirement was because he was the only guy that could figure out time travel and help fix the entire universe and get all of the dusted people back. Those stakes are plenty high enough for anyone to come out of retirement.
OmegaBlack13
OmegaBlack13 - 6/20/2022, 1:50 PM
@TheHumanSpider2 - It was a crazy decision, and basing the movie off the conflict with Superman in that story was even crazier as a first contact story.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/20/2022, 1:50 PM
@IronSpider101 - Yeah it was a broad stroke Batman. But thats something I really didn't like about Nolan's movies. Bruce becomes Batman in Begins. Let's say that story takes place over a month once he becomes Batman, which I think is pushing it, but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. Then TDK happens right after Begins, and we know this because Alfred gave Batman the Joker card. So we know Joker was active during the events of Begins.

So again, benefit of the doubt, let's just say from the time Begins ended, and The Dark Knight Ended, a year passed. Which again, feels like way too long. But I'll give it that.

Then he's out of action for 8 years. Then Rises starts, he becomes Batman again and within a short amount of time he gets his back broken and thrown into the prison for a few months. Then he comes back wins the day, and retires.

So in the entire series, he was only actively Batman for 2 years, at the absolute most. And that's pushing it quite a bit. It's probably closer to about a year, year and a half.
OmegaBlack13
OmegaBlack13 - 6/20/2022, 2:01 PM
@CorndogBurglar - When TDK was coming out I remember reading in a Wizard Magazine that it took place about 18 months after Begins buy obviously that was forever ago. This has always been my problem with the Nolan movies as well. I get that in real life nearly 2 straight years of crime fighting would take a huge physical and mental toll on a person, but in terms of how we understand Batman, it was really nothing. The guy put in essentially no time before quitting.
Forthas
Forthas - 6/20/2022, 2:12 PM
@CorndogBurglar - The entire theme of the character is that he CAN"T stop being Batman. If he un-retired again it would reinforce that idea which comes from the comics. Also, at no point does Batman SAY he is retiring and the events of Man of Steel (which is why it is such a great pairing) is the kind of event that would bring someone like Batman back to deal with the consequences of a first contact event.

The fact that he has someone who could be Nightwing is not so much to replace him but to franchise what he does so he does not need to be everywhere at once...also from the comics. The end of Dark Knight Rises leaves Bruce right where he started...he left his money to Alfred, was living abroad, and was believed to be dead. The same way he started being Batman he could resume it. WB should have no problem with this, a 70 year old Keaton was just brought back to be Batman again.

It is the perfect complement to Man of Steel, because both heroes are presented in the same way - both are nonlinear origin stories, both scored by Hans Zimmer, and as I mentioned earlier, the end is the exact kind of dramatic event to bring Bruce back.

I was not talking about coming out of retirement in Endgame, I was talking about the events between Iron Man 3 when he ended the film blowing up all of his armor and the beginning of Age of Ultron where the issue was never even addressed.
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 6/20/2022, 12:16 PM
the mechanics of the actual story seem fairly simple....it's the continuity what's giving me a headache :p
so it's less of a "multiverse" movie and more of a mixed timelines one. ok so that's at least different from Marvel's previous 2 movies.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 6/20/2022, 12:29 PM
@Spidey91 - If MoM was confusing for general audiences...yeah, this is going to be a disaster.
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 6/20/2022, 12:31 PM
@TheHumanSpider2 - at least Cumberbatch is not a wanted criminal so...one point for MOM I guess :p
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 6/20/2022, 12:54 PM
@Spidey91 - There is also that...
thewanderer
thewanderer - 6/20/2022, 1:06 PM
@TheHumanSpider2 - who knew tomato cans could be so important.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 6/20/2022, 12:17 PM
That Superman stuff is going to piss off the Cult big time. Even reading this, I thought you might see him in some capacity but then the reveal hits...

Anyway, this sounds MESSY AS [frick] continuity-wise.
cyclopsprime
cyclopsprime - 6/20/2022, 12:36 PM
@GhostDog - Henry cavill deserved better
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