CREATURE COMMANDOS' Finale Drops A Big Batman Revelation But What Does It Mean For THE BATMAN/DCU Theories?

CREATURE COMMANDOS' Finale Drops A Big Batman Revelation But What Does It Mean For THE BATMAN/DCU Theories?

In the Creature Commandos finale, Doctor Phosphorus drops a big hint about how long Batman has been operating in Gotham City, but does it close the door on Robert Pattinson being the DCU's Dark Knight?

By JoshWilding - Jan 09, 2025 09:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Creature Commandos

We have lots to discuss after watching the Creature Commandos finale (you can find our recap here), but a seemingly throwaway line includes a major revelation about the DCU's Batman. Does it close the door on The Batman's Robert Pattinson ever joining this franchise? Yes and no.

In the penultimate episode of the animated series, we learn that Doctor Phosphorus was created after a run-in with Gotham City mobster Rupert Thorn. 

Hellbent on revenge, Phosphorus went on a rampage, killing Thorn and the men who murdered his wife and child. With that, he took over the villain's criminal empire before being captured by Batman (a confrontation which, unfortunately, didn't play out on screen). 

Phosphorus' time in charge surely can't have lasted long; perhaps weeks, months, or a year or two at most. However, he'd have gotten on Batman's radar pretty quickly following that killing spree and quite clearly murdered Thorn hours after he was turned into a monster. 

So, when Phosphorus mentions in the finale that it's been fifteen years since his transformation, we can safely assume it's been more than a decade since Batman captured the villain and put him in Belle Reve. 

The Batman takes place in "Year Two" of the Caped Crusader's vigilante career, so the only way Pattinson can now join the DCU is if he's significantly aged up. Then again, Matt Reeves' movies can explore Batman's formative years before Gunn has the actor play an older version of the hero in the DCU. 

While it would be easy enough for DC Studios to retcon a throwaway line in an animated TV show, it makes sense for the DCU's Batman to be in his 40s or 50s, especially if he has a child. However, while he looks a lot younger than that, Pattinson is 38 and easily old enough to be the father of 10-year-old Damian Wayne. So, for now, that door remains ajar. 

"As everyone knows, the Batman featured in The Brave and the Bold will belong to the new DC universe," The Brave and the Bold director Andy Muschietti said in a recent interview. "It’s quite obvious that Matt Reeves’ Batman is not part of this new universe."

"However, DC and Warner Bros. are moving forward with the second part of Reeves’ Batman series, which, as widely reported, is expected to release around 2027. This means the next Batman movie will take some time before it sees the light of day.... Releasing two Batman films simultaneously would be counterproductive," the director added. "What DC is doing is creating a strategy to ensure these two films don’t conflict with each other."

Neither James Gunn nor Matt Reeves have denied that Pattinson will be the DCU's Batman, and what they decide is likely to overrule the hopes of a filmmaker who delivered a dud like The Flash.  

All episodes of Creature Commandos are now streaming on Max.

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harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 1/9/2025, 9:49 AM
it means d1ck.
MG0019
MG0019 - 1/9/2025, 11:43 AM
@harryba11zack - Seriously.

Why does this site have a hard on for bringing Pattinson’s Batman into the DCU?

EVERY creative involved had stated Reeves’ universe is standalone.

The entire aesthetic of Reeves’ film does NOT match with the DCU. Do the “authors” here really think Reeves’ ultra realistic Nolan ripoff motif vibes with the Creature Commandos?
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 1/9/2025, 12:11 PM
@MG0019 - they like kurt Cobain.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/9/2025, 12:20 PM
@MG0019 - Does Iron Man 1 or 2 vibe with Avengers Infinity War or Endgame, does The Winter Soldier vibe with the Guardians of the Galaxy movies, does The Incredible Hulk vibe with Thor Ragnarok or Love and Thunder? Nope. But it still works as a cinematic universe.

Does Batman: Year One or Arkham Asylum; A Serious House on Serious Earth vibe with Final Crisis? Nope, but it's the same Batman.

Also, it's not just this site that has a hard on over Battinson in the DCU. Check out the rest of the internet sometime.
Spike101
Spike101 - 1/9/2025, 9:52 AM
It’s an animation so who cares?
AnEye
AnEye - 1/9/2025, 9:55 AM
I wouldn't put too much thought into this. Considering it is going to be probably four or five years out before we really see the DCU Batman, if that does happen.
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 1/9/2025, 10:00 AM
It means nothing. It’s a [frick]ing cartoon
McMurdo
McMurdo - 1/9/2025, 11:36 AM
@TheNewYorker - it absolutely means something. This is hard Canon my dude. From Gunn himself. This means Batman has been Batman for over a decade. Which tracks with both Gunn's original comments and Muschietti's new comments. I don't understand the rampant copium regarding Battinson. It's never happening boys.
NotAFanofHeroes
NotAFanofHeroes - 1/9/2025, 10:08 AM
Didn’t Gunn say he wasn’t ready to touch Batman yet? He doesn’t have anything fleshed out enough for The Dark Knight to appear yet. So it means nothing still? Lol
DemonTweeks
DemonTweeks - 1/9/2025, 10:21 AM
@NotAFanofHeroes - exactly! which is why it was intentionally vague in creature commandos was my take of it.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/9/2025, 12:23 PM
@NotAFanofHeroes/DemonTweeks - This. These.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/9/2025, 10:24 AM
This still doesn’t really explain much of anything….

Phosphorus might mention it’s been 15 years since his transformation but after him killing Thorne & his goons , we got a montage in which he took over his empire which could have lasted years even during which Bruce might not even have been Batman.

Like for example Bruce could have taken down Phosphrous 5 years after and if the case in this version , travelled the world in his early 20’s or so and came back at like 24-25 so it would then be 10 years so he could be early to mid 30’s

Plus we don’t know who encompasses this Batman’s Bat family yet or for how long so too much info still up in the air imo.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 1/9/2025, 10:26 AM
We need a visible thumbs up/ down system so people can know ahead of time to avoid bullsh1t articles like these.
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 1/9/2025, 10:30 AM
GASP ...

Clutching ...

at straws ...

Again ...
PartyKiller
PartyKiller - 1/9/2025, 10:46 AM
Andy Muschietti is planning on directing Brave and The Bold. So he would know.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 1/9/2025, 10:50 AM
@PartyKiller - He isn't directing anything. WB isn't giving their #1 IP to that loser. If anything, Gunn will end up directing it.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 1/9/2025, 11:38 AM
@TheJok3r - he definitely would know if Reeves Batman is who he was hired to direct in his future Bat film or if it's a new Batman. It was always obvious a Batman with a 10 year old son and a full bat family wasn't going to correlate with Twightlight Bat.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/9/2025, 12:24 PM
@McMurdo - Which is why, if they were to go the other way with Battinson, his film would probably be cancelled.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 1/9/2025, 10:51 AM
I personally don't think they'll connect Reeves' Batman to this, but if they did, this would be a good way to do it. Reeves gets his full creative control and tells the story he wants, while Gunn gets to work with an established Batman. It'd be a win-win for both parties. Again though, I don't think that's what they're doing.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/9/2025, 10:54 AM
Okay, but hear me out, what if Creature Commandos and the rest of the DCU takes place in the 2030s.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 1/9/2025, 11:09 AM
@ObserverIO - Rick Flag seniors gotta be in his 60’s by that time. So a 60 year old beefcake got with a 23 year old princess…. No Wonder Frank Grillo likes James Gunn’s DCU so much.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/9/2025, 11:09 AM
Doesn't really change a lot imo. It's two different Batman. Only take away is that this Batman has been active for 15 years, which makes sense if his fourth Robin is around already.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/9/2025, 11:16 AM
@bkmeijer1 - hell , it might even be his 3rd or so if for example Tim doesn’t exist etc.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/9/2025, 1:33 PM
@TheVisionary25 - yeah true. I'm kinda hope we'll get to see all of them. Think it can fit in 10-15, especially if Jason was Robin for just a year
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/9/2025, 1:37 PM
@bkmeijer1 - yeah , we’ll see

I just wonder if Brave and The Bold will introduce the Bat Family as a whole or other projects will do that?.

If it’s the former then it might be too much to introduce all that in one movie
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/9/2025, 2:35 PM
@TheVisionary25 - it's definitely gonna be a lot. Think atleast Dynamic Duo will take some of that away, but that still leaves Tim and Batgirl(s)
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/9/2025, 3:02 PM
@bkmeijer1 - if Dynamic Duo takes place in the DCU that is.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/9/2025, 4:48 PM
@TheVisionary25 - I thought it already was confirmed it. I could be wrong though and was only assuming it because Gunn said everything going forward was gonna be DCU
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 1/9/2025, 11:10 AM
So Batman will be about 15 years older than Superman?
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 1/9/2025, 11:42 AM
@slickrickdesigns - Not necessarily. There's already both a Supergirl and a Superdog, plus Lois seemingly already knows he's Clark. I don't think he's been around as long as Batman has been, but there's no way he came on to the scene 15 years after. At most, I'd say there's a 5 year gap between them.
THEKENDOMAN
THEKENDOMAN - 1/9/2025, 11:14 AM
Still haven't watched it.

Starting today.

I'll comment later.

For [frick]s sake
MarvelousMarty
MarvelousMarty - 1/9/2025, 11:17 AM
If it's so connected why does Rick Flag look nothing like Superman's Rick Flag?
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 1/9/2025, 2:40 PM
@MarvelousMarty - If I recall from the article a few weeks back, it sounds like it was another Henry Cavill moustache type situation as his inclusion in superman was last minute and the actor was between projects so he couldn't alter his look too much.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 1/9/2025, 11:33 AM
Josh what???

"So, when Phosphorus mentions in the finale that it's been fifteen years since his transformation, we can safely assume it's been more than a decade since Batman captured the villain and put him in Belle Reve."


How does that work for Kurt CoBatman if he's in year 2 in the year 2022?


Do you and Mark not read each other's articles or something? Muschietti just reiterated Gunn's original stance (which he himself also has reiterated multiple times since) that Brave and the Bold's Batman is SEPARATE from Pattinson's.

What a dumb article.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/9/2025, 12:29 PM
@McMurdo - How it works: If Year One was 2021, then Creature Commandos takes place in the year 2035.
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 1/9/2025, 11:33 AM
Nothing, now carry on.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/9/2025, 2:22 PM
It's not really specified how long Phosphorus was a crime lord. Maybe it was a long time and Batman just took him down recently.
Nolanite
Nolanite - 1/9/2025, 2:28 PM
@JamesGunn

I know that you are watching this, so what say you?
Please explain or clarify the finale and how it impacts the DCU.

Nolanite out
bcom
bcom - 1/9/2025, 3:07 PM
Andy Muschietti has recently said that Pattinson will not be the DCU's Batman in The Brave and the Bold so I think that pretty much confirms it.
dragon316
dragon316 - 1/9/2025, 3:35 PM
Something people need to know about theroies they are always 99.99 percent wrong of time what happen to theroy snoke was palpatine , antman shrink go up thanos ass end avengers end game ?
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