GAME OF THRONES S309 "The Rains Of Castamere" Recap & SPOILER Discussion

GAME OF THRONES S309 "The Rains Of Castamere" Recap & SPOILER  Discussion

If you haven't been left too traumatized by the events of last night's ep, click on to revisit them and give us your thoughts on what may well go down as the most shocking moment in tv history. There's also video of The Red Wedding..if you can stomach it again!

Review Opinion
By MarkCassidy - Jun 03, 2013 08:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Game of Thrones

Lats night's penultimate season 3 episode of HBO's Game Of Thrones ended in a scene fans of the source novels have been both looking forward to and dreading in equal measure since the show began. But with all the furor over the Red Wedding, it's easy to forget how great (and eventful) the rest of the ep was.



Jon Snow was finally forced to show his true colors to The Wildlings and his lover Ygritte when he was ordered to kill an innocent man to prove his loyalty. After he bottled it, Tormund and Orell realized he was "still a Crow" and tried to kill him -- but they didn't count on Jon's little bro Bran "warging" into the two nearby Direwolves and lending a hand..or a fang as the case may be. With their help Jon manages to dispatch his attackers -- including Orell -- and commandeer a horse to make his escape. Ygritte did not look best pleased! Something tells me Jon will see a very different side to the lass if she ever catches up to him.

Meanwhile, though Bran saw Jon through his wolf's eyes, he decides it's too risky to follow him on to Castle Black and instead decides to travel north of the Wall with the Reeds. He sends Rickon to the Umbers with Osha as his protector. The brothers have an emotional farewell but I would have liked to have seen one between Bran and Osha too, given how they met and all they've been through.

In Yunkai Dany and her followers decide on a battle plan for sacking the city, but Jorah doesn't trust Daario -- he did kill his former partners after all. Fortunately the young warrior proves his loyalty and they manage to take the city. But just look at that expression on Jorah's face when they return from the battle and Dany inquires after Daario! It seems Ser Mormont is just a wee bit jealous.

Clegane and Arya continue on their journey to reunite the young Stark with what remains of her family. Along the way Arya definitely seems to impress the cold hearted Hound with her defiance and bravery -- so much so that when it all kicks off when they reach The Twins he rescues her from a fate that would surely have been the same as her mother and brother.

And what a fate it was:



This was obviously a very powerful and emotionally devastating episode, filled with the great performances that we've come to expect -- but if Michele Fairly (Catelyn) doesn't get some recognition for her superb work here there really is no justice. Her final, hopeless scream will stay with me for a long time. What did you think of this? Did it leave you wishing you could see the next ep straight away or have you now been put off the show? How do fans of the books feel about that extra gut-punch (no pun intended) of having the pregnant Talisa killed along with her husband?


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MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 6/3/2013, 9:01 AM
I know the thumbnail has nothing to do with the ep, just my little tribute to poor Greywind:(
DaenerysTargaryen
DaenerysTargaryen - 6/3/2013, 9:13 AM
I knew it was going to happen *red wedding* but my body still wasn't ready. :'(
Hodor
Hodor - 6/3/2013, 9:20 AM
Same here. I was still completely shocked.
BlackPhillip
BlackPhillip - 6/3/2013, 9:24 AM
It was jaw dropping for me. It's a shame that Ned Stark died twice in the same show.
CrashTest
CrashTest - 6/3/2013, 9:34 AM
Oh I was SHOCKED! Say it isn't so!
CrashTest
CrashTest - 6/3/2013, 9:34 AM
@batz11
That would be great.
Lizardking310
Lizardking310 - 6/3/2013, 9:37 AM
I knew it was coming but watching it was still devastating !! Grey wind crying made me cry :*(
gaikinger
gaikinger - 6/3/2013, 9:40 AM
Again i will say i really respect those who have not read the books and are letting the events painfully unfold over such long interludes. I tip my hat to your unbelievable patience that i actually envy. When the series ends you should do yourselves a favor and read the books as they really are amazing. That being said, those of us who have read the books need to stop spoiling the road ahead in any shape or form and respect those who are taking the long road. If they truly want answers they will go to the books and don't need you to ease their suffering.
ElDarkside
ElDarkside - 6/3/2013, 9:43 AM
What a fantastic episode and incredible change of events (OOOOH WHAT A TWIST) well, not really but you all know what I mean. I don't read the books and had no idea this was coming AT ALL!!!

The starks were definitely the family that I was rooting for the most, but now I hope Dany takes her dragons and slaves and takes the thrown...
ElDarkside
ElDarkside - 6/3/2013, 9:48 AM
YES @gaikinger... You read my mind. I don't know how I didn't get this spoiled. It's such a shame that people get joy out of ruining someone else's viewing experience of this and other fantastic shows and movies.

I actually watched it a little late on my DVR and saw some of my friends on facebook posting about being upset and girls crying over what happened, but I quickly shut it off and watched the whole episode on the edge of my seat, because I knew something was going to happen. Especially when the doors shut on the wedding hall and the music changed.
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 6/3/2013, 9:50 AM
In truth, I don't read many Game of Thrones posts or comment threads especially, because there are so many people who gladly spoil upcoming events.

I'm happy to say that I made it largely unspoiled to this episode... I knew something bad would happen at one of the weddings this season had set up, but I really didn't predict it going nearly this far, and it was truly shocking. Very powerful stuff!
geeekgod
geeekgod - 6/3/2013, 9:54 AM
terrific episode. can't wait for next week's finale
aantny88
aantny88 - 6/3/2013, 9:56 AM
Having Talisa present and be the first one executed in horrific fashion by being stabbed in her pregnant belly really added an element of shock and awe to the Red Wedding. Robb's wife, Jeyne Westerling, in the books was not present at the Red Wedding, nor was she with child, so I feel the directors did a great job adding this to the show. I was a little disappointed Greatjon and Smalljon Umber were not present at the Red Wedding in the show because they go down like champs, fighting until the end.
wcwpoet
wcwpoet - 6/3/2013, 10:02 AM
Whoever it was that had the idea to add Talisa to the proceedings deserves all the credit. I knew it was coming and it still was gut wrenching, just the look on her and Robb's face yeesh that was brutal.
wcwpoet
wcwpoet - 6/3/2013, 10:05 AM
If you haven't read the books though it's best to avoid talk backs. Even still I commend the show runners for still delivering the goods when so many people already know what's going to happen. I mean I can't wait for next season especially when a couple of characters finally get what's coming to them!
GreenLanternRulez
GreenLanternRulez - 6/3/2013, 10:08 AM
Can someone explain the appeal of this show? This is simply a male driven soap opera and frankly if I wanted that I'd just go for wrestling.

While I'm not saying its not powerful and gripping in it's own right, who wants to sit and invest time in all these clans and households that seem to die off, then shift their focus to another? It's an exhaustive feat for a show and it just seems like they try to hard.
wcwpoet
wcwpoet - 6/3/2013, 10:09 AM
That was so freaking brutal I can't even get through that thing again. Just the look on Talisa's face dammmmmn!
FoxForce5
FoxForce5 - 6/3/2013, 10:13 AM
Having not read the books and having managed to avoid the spoilers, I was completely blown away! Yeah, I've been hearing about "The Red Wedding" but sort of figured (like I think a lot of people did) that it was going to involve something terrible Joffrey would do at his own wedding.

Overall, GREAT EPISODE and I'm looking forward to next week with baited breath!
Gmoney84
Gmoney84 - 6/3/2013, 10:25 AM
I was at Comic-con the first year GoT was in Ballroom 20 and David and Dan both said if they could get the show to "The RW" they would consider that a great accomplishment. I think they completely knocked it out of the park here. My wife and I are big fans of the books and last night was difficult even though we knew it was coming. Seeing the Red Wedding brought to life was amazing and gripping and terrible and beautiful and sad and exciting all at the same time. That is why this is the best show on tv, hands down.

And I've never seen Twitter blow up the way it did last night. THAT was crazy.
ParisSun
ParisSun - 6/3/2013, 10:29 AM
Oh well, Robb really made too many mistakes in a dangerous world.

Now will someone please kill that punk Joffrey. I can't his look. I know Tywin probably deserves to die more but Joffrey needs to die painfully. Maybe the little Stark girl, Arya, will shoot him in the balls with a crossbow. It's funny because I'm rooting for Jaime and Tyrion Lannister but can't stand Tywin, Joffrey and Cersie.
ParisSun
ParisSun - 6/3/2013, 10:31 AM
BTW, I can't stand his looks.
GizmoEl
GizmoEl - 6/3/2013, 10:36 AM
I had a feeling Robb would die. It was shocking and heartbreaking. He was my favorite character.

Now that he's free from GoT, Richard Madden should join DW as the 12th Doctor.
dezdigi
dezdigi - 6/3/2013, 10:39 AM
Shit got way real real last night!
I'm abandoning this thread after I make this comment so no one spoils it for me.
I'm really hoping the surviving Starks can make a come back and if that doesn't happen, hopefully, Dany burns everyone and everything to the ground. Fresh start in Westeros!
Kyos
Kyos - 6/3/2013, 10:40 AM
Somehow the "Red Wedding" didn't affect me as much as I'd expected. Can't really put my finger on why that is, though. Maybe because I knew what was coming and had pictured some elements differently, I don't know.

Still a great episode, and a powerful and shocking scene! It will be hard to watch this with my unspoiled friends next week (we watch every season in 3-4 episode sessions), especially my friend who had her second child recently will be devastated by the addition of pregnant Talisa to the slaughterhouse. Harsh.

@gaikinger

I totally agree, it's simply not fair to spoil the show for non-readers. I have read all the books and encourage my friends to give them a try sometime, but I manage to not give anything away. I notice that I need to be more aware of avoiding to post spoiler on the internet, but it's possible and we should try to keep the spoilerific mentioning of upcoming things from the books out of discussions of the show.
Tevii
Tevii - 6/3/2013, 10:59 AM
@GreenLanternRulez -
"Can someone explain the appeal of this show? This is simply a male driven soap opera and frankly if I wanted that I'd just go for wrestling."

well comic books, star wars, anime, episodic television are all soap operas to a degree. Thats episodic storytelling.
If you dont enjoy GoT then thats your opinion. but it is a great show. well written television based on well written books.
And if you think Wrestling is better thenI dont really know what to say other then perhaps you are looking for less story and more action
CapFanLex005
CapFanLex005 - 6/3/2013, 11:09 AM
Hands down one of the most brutal things ever imagined. GRRM can write his ass off but seeing it on tv was just heartbreaking. I cant wait for Ary to put that needle through the hounds head.
Ghaleonausa
Ghaleonausa - 6/3/2013, 11:22 AM
having read the books and been shocked each time with the "Red Wedding" it was still a surprise to see on TV.
however the addition of robb starks wife to the massacre was unexpected and different from the book. some of the changes have been enjoyable. this season has given me something I always wanted know about the books. in the books Thoros of Myr and Melisandre never meet and I always wondered what would happen if they did or if they had the exact same opinions. now I know.
Silentman
Silentman - 6/3/2013, 11:25 AM
Love the show, haven't read any of the books. A friend of mine has read the books and warned me that shit goes down with major characters dying, but I just couldn't believe it. Can't wait for the season finale.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 6/3/2013, 11:42 AM
Bran became the wolf not to save Jon, but to save themselves from the Wildlings who had heard Hodor shouting in the tower they were hiding in. He just happened to see Jon in the aftermath. Also, Robb's wife does survive the wedding but is not pregnant.
Supershadowbat
Supershadowbat - 6/3/2013, 11:45 AM
GOT is one of the best shows on TV, ever. I read the books, but it still surprises me with some of the changes in the show. I also like to watch in 3 or 4 episode sessions. One episode is not enough.
MatchesMalone1989
MatchesMalone1989 - 6/3/2013, 11:46 AM
How much more METAL can this show get?
SDR11
SDR11 - 6/3/2013, 12:05 PM
Awesome scene, that music made me think of Schindler's List. Really sad to see the King in the North going down like that. I would have like a fighting scene like Boromir in LOTR.

Rooting for Jon, Arya and Dany. (Jaime and Tyrion are also cool)
Fappy
Fappy - 6/3/2013, 12:06 PM
Ehhh I thought the insanity was limited to the books but sadly it has crept into the TV series, How can he be a King when he doesn't have soldiers to fight with? let alone the stupid wedding carnage, same old stupid shock tactic.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 6/3/2013, 12:47 PM
Bropous, whats wrong with people who'd rather watch this story play out on TV than in the books? I never even heard of the books until this show came out and it wasn't until season 1 was complete before I read the first book. Don'get so mad just because others didn't use the same medium as yourself to enjoy this series. Its pretty funny how superior a few of you 'book readers' think you are.

Anyways, depressing ep, not sure where the show is going with this and thats what makes it so good imo!
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