AGATHA ALL ALONG Showrunner Talks Billy Maximoff's Surprise MCU Debut And Agatha Harkness' Trial

AGATHA ALL ALONG Showrunner Talks Billy Maximoff's Surprise MCU Debut And Agatha Harkness' Trial

Agatha All Along showrunner Jac Schaeffer has broken her silence on Billy Maximoff's MCU debut and breaks down how exactly the coven managed to pass Agatha Harkness' trial. Find more details here...

By JoshWilding - Oct 14, 2024 03:10 PM EST
Filed Under: Agatha: Coven of Chaos
Source: The Wrap

Last week's episode of Agatha All Along pulled back the curtain on Teen and revealed that he's really Billy Maximoff. The Wrap caught up with showrunner Jac Schaeffer to learn more about the big reveal, including who came up with the idea. 

While the character is clearly being set up as a major player in the MCU, it doesn't sound like Schaeffer always planned to put the spotlight on the Scarlet Witch's son (even with this show following the events of WandaVision).

"I had this notion of like, a goth teenager, or a group of goth teenagers," she told the trade. "And I knew that Agatha would be trapped in the spell. And just like, the sort of craft of it, I kept imagining this goth teenager, with candles, doing some kind of, like, a rudimentary spell, and I think the original idea was like, 'And then he accidentally gets Agatha out from under this spell.'"

"This teenager or group of teenagers has potential, or whatever. Early on, we’re like, you know, Agatha is a mentor, and we want a younger character, and we want that sort of feeling," Schaeffer continued. "And I’m not sure, but my memory is that I think it was [executive producer] Mary Livanos who was like 'Billy.'"

The writer and director also confirmed that Billy didn't kill his fellow coven members but revealed, "Alice is dead. So I will say that I love Alice so much, and I love Ali Ahn so much, and Ali was so instrumental in crafting the characterization of Alice, especially in her triumphant Episode 4. The writer’s room felt very passionately about her."

Schaeffer did, however, tease: "What I will say is that, it’s not the end of the conversation, is what I would say."

Finally, the showrunner confirmed this latest trial was Agatha's and explained how exactly the coven managed to pass that after Alice's death and the clash with Evanora Harkness's spirit. 

"Our intention was that, in every trial there is a stated goal, a stated thing that they are supposed to accomplish. And in this case, the stated goal is punish Agatha," Schaeffer noted. "And what happens is she’s put in a situation where she kills one of her own coven members and then has to look in the faces of the rest of her coven. And that’s when the door opens, because she is punished."

Earlier today, Marvel Studios released a midseason trailer for Agatha All Along which you can watch here. Billy Maximoff actor Joe Locke has also broken his silence on playing the MCU's Wiccan so check out that here.

The first five episodes of Agatha All Along are now streaming on Disney+.

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Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 10/14/2024, 3:22 PM
Kinda gay but thats ok would you feed me when you can
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/14/2024, 3:32 PM
Interesting..

I thought the trial being done was because Billy communed with Nicholas Scratch which made Agatha realize that if he was a spirit then he was truly dead and not “Teen” as she might have felt or thought which is a form of punishment.

If it was killing Alice and having to face her coven which I guess could work too but I think needed to be a point that was hit a bit harder then it was.

Also I’m gonna miss Alice , I was liking her character and the bond she was forming with Billy aswell.

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Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 10/14/2024, 3:34 PM
Damn. I guess spoilers are unavoidable if you don't watch every episode when it drops 🤷🏻‍♂️
TheyDont
TheyDont - 10/14/2024, 5:18 PM
@Izaizaiza - Looks like you need to avoid sites where assholes put them in headlines
RolandD
RolandD - 10/14/2024, 3:38 PM
Isn’t it only a surprise if you don’t expect it? I didn’t definitely expect it was going to happen this episode, but I did expect it was going to happen eventually, at least by the final episode.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/14/2024, 3:40 PM
@RolandD - I love that they tricked us with the structure

We knew who he was but they changed the when which would normally be towards the end rather then middle which I like.
RolandD
RolandD - 10/14/2024, 5:49 PM
@TheVisionary25 - You are correct. It is nice not to know everything that’s going to happen or when it is going to happen so I was surprised by this; just not surprised by the fact that he is WICCAN. I don’t like the fact that he sent them off into quicksand though because I do want him to be a hero. At first, I thought he was being possessed by Nicholas Scratch, but I don’t think that any longer although it’s still not surprise me.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/14/2024, 5:54 PM
@RolandD - I’m sure he will be

This is just the beginning for him , every character or hero worth his salt needs an arc or journey
RolandD
RolandD - 10/14/2024, 6:04 PM
@TheVisionary25 - That and I don’t think he really killed them for that matter, obviously. Death will happen. Hell, she’s actually a character on the show probably but they didn’t just kill off the lead character in the midseason episode.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 10/14/2024, 9:10 PM
@RolandD - it was literally the exact opposite of a surprise. It was telegraphed.
RolandD
RolandD - 10/14/2024, 9:37 PM
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Even Peter Griffin saw it coming.
JuanRGuijarro
JuanRGuijarro - 10/14/2024, 3:46 PM
what a shitshow
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 10/14/2024, 7:14 PM
@JuanRGuijarro - Do you always just blurt out nonsense? Go find something you enjoy, weirdo.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 10/14/2024, 9:11 PM
@Tonic24k - so sensitive.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 10/15/2024, 7:56 AM
@McMurdo - I would say the person whining is the sensitive one. And it seems you agree with them so wouldn't that make you two the sensitive ones? I'm merely calling out how miserable it sounds.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 10/16/2024, 3:03 PM
@Tonic24k - sure bud whatever you say.
tmp3
tmp3 - 10/14/2024, 3:49 PM
Can’t be worse than Joker’s trial
tmp3
tmp3 - 10/14/2024, 3:50 PM
Heard this show was actually good tho so might have to check it out eventually. For plaza if nothing else
LSHF
LSHF - 10/14/2024, 4:25 PM
"...and then has to look in the faces of the rest of her coven. And that’s when the door opens, because she is punished... "

Well, she faced her coven, so I guess that's punishment enough for straight up murdering someone. Witches get off easy, it seems. 🤔
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 10/14/2024, 4:39 PM
I hope they explain if Billy was acting all along , just to get to Agatha and on the witches road , or the sigil being broken snapped him out of whatever thing he was under 🤔🤔


But anyway can’t wait to see what happens, this show , while not great, is actually really entertaining, love that they are just letting the characters be, without injecting any kind of social message.

And I’m also glad Agatha is staying a villain , there are already too many redemption arcs for antagonists in the MCU lol
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/14/2024, 4:44 PM
@MisterDoctor217 - I definitely think Agatha might be redeemed to an extent here but not like Loki where he becomes pretty much a hero by S2.

I can see her always remaining in the grey.

Also Agatha says that the person who out the signup on him might not even know themselves so I wonder if Billy did that to himself?

Anyway , I would say it’s been good so far!!.
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 10/14/2024, 5:12 PM
@TheVisionary25 -

I hope not ! I like her being evil lol
I mean I am all for giving her a sympathetic backstory and all that, but I think it’s more interesting that she remain a villain.

But maybe you’re right and she’ll get a redemption arc by the end heh

And regarding Billy’s sigil, I think maybe he did , or maybe Wanda did unconsciously as well🤔 I hope it’s revealed
Spike101
Spike101 - 10/14/2024, 5:08 PM
It’s ok but really what does it do for the MCU? I’d rather see Agatha in her established position as a nanny to superhero’s offspring.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 10/15/2024, 5:03 AM
@Spike101 - Fully introduces Wiccan and possible sets up the return of Wanda would be two BIG things for the wider MCU. Agatha at a place where she could play Nanny is small potatoes but there too but more the point why does every MCU film/show have to progress the MCU, it is OK to also have a GotG Christmas special that does virtualy nothing to progress the wider MCU narrative or something that could be completely isolated and potentialy never returned to like Werewolf by night too. I mean back in the day I never once complained they made an Ewoks animated series and questioned what it does for the Star Wars franchise one way or another.
BabyLasagna
BabyLasagna - 10/15/2024, 12:17 PM
@Spike101 - not everything has to be about a big part of the multiverse puzzle that Will end up in a massive blue skybeam battle


Radders
Radders - 10/16/2024, 9:00 AM
Well that's a lame answer, her punishment was to kill someone when she's already killed multiple people and they all know she's a serial killer - and she already tried it before they even got on the road! If you'd said the punishment was Billy's reaction, still dumb but then maybe.

And how is that her trial?

Man these writers have no clue

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