ECHO Spoilers: Daredevil's Role In The Series Explained (Along With How Much Screentime He Really Has)

ECHO Spoilers: Daredevil's Role In The Series Explained (Along With How Much Screentime He Really Has)

Marvel Studios hasn't shied away from putting Daredevil front and centre in Echo's marketing campaign, but what does the Man Without Fear bring to the Disney+ series and how much screentime does he have?

By JoshWilding - Jan 10, 2024 06:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Echo

All five episodes of Echo arrived on Disney+ earlier today and much has been said about Daredevil's role in the series. However, we'd recommend tempering expectations, particularly after recent comments from director Sydney Freeland.

In remarks we now believe were taken out of context, she said Maya Lopez's fight with Daredevil "[is] one shot, it’s six minutes long, and story dictates everything. [She enters] that scene as a teenage girl, but she [leaves] as a cold-blooded killer. And it was important for me that the audience is able to see that transformation happen in real-time."

Having watched the show, it's apparent the filmmaker was referring to the entire fight and not just Maya's clash with Charlie Cox's Man Without Fear. 

In reality, Daredevil has less than 90 seconds of screentime in Echo

His fight with the young Maya is impressive and well-choreographed, showcasing 'ol Hornhead in his costume from Netflix's Daredevil. He ultimately defeats Maya by dropping some shelving on her, but when she gets up to continue the fight, the hero is gone. He'd keep keeping an eye on the crooks she and The Kingpin's men attack that day and, in doing so, Maya ruined his plan to take down their operation. 

And that, unfortunately, is the last we see of Daredevil in Echo. Rumour has it he was meant to appear in the finale to set the stage for a team-up in Daredevil: Born Again. However, the changes made to that series saw it left on the cutting room floor and he ends up with only a cameo appearance. 

You can check out Daredevil's battle with Maya in the X post below.

The five-episode streaming event spotlights Maya Lopez (Alaqua Cox) as she is pursued by Wilson Fisk's (Vincent D'Onofrio) criminal empire. When the journey brings her home, she must confront her own family and legacy.

Echo also stars Chaske Spencer (Wild IndianThe English), Graham Greene (1883Goliath), Tantoo Cardinal (Killers of the Flower MoonStumptown), Devery Jacobs (FX's Reservation DogsAmerican Gods), Zahn McClarnon (Dark Winds, FX's Reservation Dogs), Cody Lightning (Hey, Viktor!Four Sheets to the Wind) and Vincent D’Onofrio (HawkeyeGodfather of Harlem).

The series is directed by Sydney Freeland (Navajo) and Catriona McKenzie (Gunaikurnai).

All five episodes of Echo are now streaming on Disney+ and Hulu.

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Origame
Origame - 1/10/2024, 6:31 AM
So you admit daredevil was put front and center in the advertising, but when he only gets 90 seconds of screentime, you defend it and go on to praise the fight?

Again, paid disney shill.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 1/10/2024, 6:35 AM
@Origame - this show, further lowers my expectations for dp3. We cant deny that all of these are eggs in the same basket
TheVandalore
TheVandalore - 1/10/2024, 6:38 AM
@Origame - doubt he's getting paid by them. But the bias is apparent.
Origame
Origame - 1/10/2024, 6:44 AM
@TheVandalore - either he's paid or doing what he thinks he needs to to get that disney access. Really can't see it any other way.
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 1/10/2024, 6:57 AM
@Origame - only imbeciles fell for the bait.
MartianManHuntr
MartianManHuntr - 1/10/2024, 8:59 AM
@Origame - I said this when first teaser was dropped that all DD scenes are already shown.
LiteraryJoe
LiteraryJoe - 1/10/2024, 9:15 AM
@Origame - The show is not a fun time and a Disney does not pay him lol. Not discounting your point about access, but it’s not paid. He’s just a super-fan.
Origame
Origame - 1/10/2024, 9:25 AM
@LiteraryJoe - I mean, it's one thing to be a super fan. It's another to just admit to being tricked by the marketing then defend it.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 1/10/2024, 9:47 AM
@Origame - who loves the made up powers for Echo? Lmao
AvalonX
AvalonX - 1/10/2024, 10:27 AM
@Origame - He really is. WE TOLD THESE TRUE BELIEVERS THIS. It was always a bait and switch.
Fogs
Fogs - 1/10/2024, 2:08 PM
@Origame - Man, I saw the footage. It's so bad, LOL.
Origame
Origame - 1/10/2024, 2:53 PM
@Fogs - I can't believe people call that as good as Netflix 🤣
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/10/2024, 5:11 PM
@Origame - I'm done with the show, I watched the first episode and turned off the second after the bit she jumps off the train and hits the truck.

Does Daredevil show up anymore?
Origame
Origame - 1/10/2024, 5:23 PM
@marvel72 - apparently he only shows up for 90 seconds in the whole show. So no.

And Fisk won't be there until episode 4.
Fogs
Fogs - 1/11/2024, 9:20 AM
@Origame @marvel72 - Man, the loss of Marvel's mojo should be seriously studied in film and business schools for the next decades. It's incredible how they're eroding such a powerful brand with bad decisions.

I know SW is in the same situation but in the 2010's there's no contest, the MCU was THE moneymaker.
Origame
Origame - 1/11/2024, 9:28 AM
@Fogs - exactly.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 1/10/2024, 6:32 AM
Well, that's just sad on 2 fronts:

1. Only 90 seconds?! What's the frickin point?
2. What a pathetic way to win a fight. Shelves did it? and then he does a Batman and mysteriously disappears.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 1/10/2024, 6:33 AM
To marvel loyalists on this site, please defend this show, i dare you
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 1/10/2024, 6:33 AM
@vectorsigma - I know I'm not watching it.
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 1/10/2024, 6:58 AM
@vectorsigma - they will just to show they won't back down
VyoletVyper
VyoletVyper - 1/10/2024, 7:25 PM
@vectorsigma - I used to love everything Marvel put out… But lately it’s all been a chore to watch most of the newer movies and almost all of the shows.

But Echo, to me at least, wasn’t just a chore to watch, it’s boring. I lost all interest during the recap of Hawkeye and wound up turning it off.

I went back and finished episode one and still could not find a reason to enjoy it.

I have watched Endgame too many times to count, but I doubt that I’ll finish Echo.

It’s one thing to have a villainous character as the main character if they’re likable, but I can’t see anything likable about the way Maya has been written.

And sadly it’s obvious that the actress tried to do something with the role, but the writing/ direction didn’t give her any meat to chew on.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 1/10/2024, 8:17 PM
@VyoletVyper - i have the same sentiments. Been a marvel completeist but Echo is really testing my patience.
VyoletVyper
VyoletVyper - 1/10/2024, 9:39 PM
@vectorsigma - it probably would have worked better as a sub-plot for another show.

For me there wasn’t enough story to justify this.

I’m sure some people enjoyed it, as they have other recent offerings, but I didn’t.


JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 1/10/2024, 6:33 AM
90 seconds……oof.

Haven’t watched it yet. I heard it lacked the water cooler conversations that created a lot of depth and character development in DD. Is that true? And did the lack of that element weaken the story?
mountainman
mountainman - 1/10/2024, 6:41 AM
Called it! 90 seconds! And he was featured so much in advertising! This is even worse than what She Hulk did? Is Kingpin even in 5 minutes of it?

This is 100% a skip for me.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 1/10/2024, 9:49 AM
@mountainman - kingpin has maybe 20 minutes, but DD was just the clip they released online haha what a grift
mountainman
mountainman - 1/10/2024, 10:02 AM
@bobevanz - Not surprised. After the She Hulk marketing heavily featuring Daredevil as if he’d be a main character, I expected as much.

You would think they would learn that this deceptive marketing isn’t effective.
TheVandalore
TheVandalore - 1/10/2024, 6:42 AM
It's obvious the heads at Disney are hiring people to tick boxes and not because they are the best people for the job. Hollywood might have been brutal and cut throat in the past, but they put quality entertainment above everything else, especially politics and agendas. It's clear people were hired for this project based on their genders and skin colors and personal beliefs... Not because they wanted to make the best entertainment.

This is why Disney and woke Hollywood is doomed, fundamentally.
TheVandalore
TheVandalore - 1/10/2024, 6:47 AM
I'm really happy Disney is now a non toxic place where femininity can thrive and all..... But everything you make sucks now. Is there a correlation? Can you at least get back to making hits?
Beer85
Beer85 - 1/10/2024, 6:43 AM
I thought the fight looked pretty terrible. I don't get how anyone thinks it looked good, it looks like a fan-film tribute to the Netflix show.
TheVandalore
TheVandalore - 1/10/2024, 6:51 AM
For true equality, men need to take over women's fashion and makeup and no longer allow feminine clothing and makeup anymore until men are equally represented in that medium. Sure, only an extremely small demo of men like makeup and fashion, just like a demographic of women like Star Wars and comics... But we are going to make EVERY WOMAN SUFFER a lack of quality women's products until men have equal representation in women's fashion and makeup.

This is what it feels like they are doing to mens entertainment.
TheVandalore
TheVandalore - 1/10/2024, 6:53 AM
Who was Echo for? Women aren't even watching.... Why are they forcing this shit? Nobody asked for it....

Who is in charge?
TheVandalore
TheVandalore - 1/10/2024, 6:55 AM
Woke agenda driven idiots in charge. Echo should have never even been greenlit. This is the problem. The agenda is in charge.

This isn't even good entertainment... Wtf is Marvel doing?
mountainman
mountainman - 1/10/2024, 7:09 AM
@TheVandalore - The answer to who this is for - it’s for Black Rock so Disney can get a higher ESG score. Secondly, it’s for the intersectional mobs online that have no intention of watching it but certainly police content to ensure it fits within their orthodoxy.
JstaKIDfrmBKLYN
JstaKIDfrmBKLYN - 1/10/2024, 8:46 AM
@TheVandalore - this show was made for 4 reasons: she's a woman, she's native American, deaf, and an amputee. All that's missing from the bingo card is her being gay. Tho I didn't watch the show yet.
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 1/10/2024, 10:01 AM
@JstaKIDfrmBKLYN - you've never seen her kiss a guy yet
Polaris
Polaris - 1/11/2024, 3:25 PM
@TheVandalore - what are you even talking about?? That makes no sense. Comparing comic book movies to "women's fashion" as if these are "men's superheroes" (and as if men's fashion doesn't exists) wtf. Comic books do not belong to one gender, it's worrisome that you believe it does, and also the fact that you seem to believe having a female main character means that the show/movie exists only to be watched by women, as if men can't enjoy fiction if it's not all about them.

The problem here is quality. Women don't want bad shows any more than men do. Women don't watch crap just because there are women in it (as Hollywood should have realized by now). Do you think the MCU made all that money only from its male audience? Don't you think women who are fans are also unhappy when a movie sucks?

I agree quality should be the main focus because representation for representation's sake doesn't achieve anything, but let's not pretend only male centered fiction can be good. It's not one or the other, and yeah they shouldn't make shows and movies if they don't have a good story to tell, but going back to only having white men as heroes won't fix the quality problem. Women aren't the problem here, it's lazy studio execs who obly want to check boxes.
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 1/10/2024, 6:56 AM
It's either this or look out the train window.....

Put that on your poster
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