Simon Kinberg Reflects On How To Properly Tell The DARK PHOENIX Saga For Film Or Television

Simon Kinberg Reflects On How To Properly Tell The DARK PHOENIX Saga For Film Or Television

DARK PHOENIX Star Jessica Chastain Hopes To Play A More Established Comic Book Villain Next Time
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MarDCel - 12/8/2017, 8:46 PM
I have to say, X-Men Apocalypse is my guilty pleasure. Come at me! 😤😤😤
Saga - 12/8/2017, 8:50 PM
@MarDCel - i liked it, only wished JLaw wasnt in it
Skrull - 12/8/2017, 11:33 PM
@MarDCel - I feel a little guilty when I laugh at it. Not much, though.
PBIRD - 12/8/2017, 11:47 PM
@MarDCel - tried 4 times too watch it, can't finish. Not even once
Solarkalel85 - 12/9/2017, 1:04 AM
@MarDCel - I loved it
Starscream24 - 12/9/2017, 6:09 AM
@MarDCel - Come at you for what? "Guilty Pleasure" means you know it was crap but you like it anyway.
mastakilla39 - 12/9/2017, 6:12 AM
@MarDCel - It's not a bad film. people only throw shade at it because it wasn't the x-men film they wanted. after dofp people wanted a more "mcu/spider-man homecoming" type of film, colorful costumes, fun, and cgi heavy 3rd act. Instead Singer gave us a culmination of the xmen franchise again and focused mostly on the 1st class characters instead of the new young x-men team people wanted. But X:Apoc was always designed to end the 1st class characters: xavier, mystique, and magneto's journey and only introduce the new x-men. As DOFP only ended the 1st xmen cast's journey: jackman, stewart, and mckellen.

X-Men:Apocalypse was meant to be the of end the 1st class's cast and only introduce the x-men. And this upcoming Dark Phoenix film is technically the start of a new trilogy focused on the new X-men.
AleSir19 - 12/9/2017, 8:10 AM
@mastakilla39 - My only problem with X-Men: Apocalypse is that it feels like an artificial product. That is for me the biggest mistake of that movie: That feel really cheap and the characters dont have an organic character arc.

It is like in Doctor Strange that you sometimes feel like you are jumping from one plot point to the next one?

Well for me that is the problem of "X-Men: Apocalypse" just that it feels worst. Because in Doctor Strange the main actors are great in their roles and you never begin to question the story.

Instead this movie feel sometimes like a mix of a bunch of things. Setups. Tones and different stories match together.

Like always we have a Xavier and Magneto conflict going on. Fassbender is strong like always.

But all the stuff of Apocalypse isnt bad. It is only alredy seen a million times before and made in a better way. That is all. But is solid stuff.

It is just the execution. The execution of this movie it is too cheap. That is all.

This movie had really good CGI and a solid story. But at the end of the day. That doesnt mean shit. Because the problem is that the characters are weak like hell and feel too forced.

You cant try to make us care about The New X-Men who are deeply underdevelop (Cyclops-Jean). While trying to make us care about the Old X-Men (Magneto-Charles-Jennifer-Hank) and trying to make us care about the villain (Apoc, Storm and the other two plot devices).

It just doesnt work. That has been always the problem of the Fox-Men. Their movies feel soo cheap between all that 180 million dollar productions. While at Marvel they find a way where even in their more artificial movie, they still have strong a relatable characters).

MarDCel - 12/9/2017, 10:43 AM
@Starscream24 - Lol. You know how people are nowadays.
Saga - 12/8/2017, 8:48 PM
Yeah i get what HeS sayin. After civil war, dofp, and even batman v superman apocalypse just felt generic. Like they didnt try anything different, just heroes fight the bad guy. The only exception was magneto's daughter getting killed, great scene hopefully dark phoenix goles back to dofp greatness
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