Editorial: What The Hell Is Up With X-Men: First Class?

Editorial: What The Hell Is Up With X-Men: First Class?

Reboot/Not a reboot, baby mutants, cast swaps, bizarre character choices, main roles unfilled with a few weeks until shoot. Its fair to say that Mathew Vaughn's upcoming X reboot has raised quite a few questions and caused some confusion.

Editorial Opinion
By MarkCassidy - Aug 18, 2010 06:08 AM EST
Filed Under: X-Men: First Class

I remember back when Fox announced that they would be making X-Men: First Class hardly anyone took much interest. I think everyone assumed it would just be a teen focused cash in using the young mutants from the end of X-Men Origins: Wolverine. Some hoped for a full reboot using the original team from the comics but it seemed very unlikely. I think everyone was certain that we would have Cyclops, Emma Frost(maybe another few of the glimpsed mutants in the cages) joining Beast and Jean Grey and that would be that. We would see them come to terms with their emerging powers, learn to work as a team, battle Magneto and it would be all very generic and pretty boring. Then Mathew Vaughn was announced as director.

Vaughn's Kick-Ass caused quite a stir and was praised by critics and fans alike as something very special. A super hero movie not afraid to take a few risks and there was no doing things the studio way. Vaughn also came with some X baggage. A long time fan of the comics, he had previously been mooted to direct X-Men 3 but left over "creative differences". He has since been very vocal with his disdain for Brett Ratner's movie. So was this a glimmer of hope? I thought(and still think) so. But since that some pretty strange things have happened and fans just can't get a read of what this film is really going to be about.

First, we had James McAvoy cast as a young Charles Xavier. So it was going to have flash backs right? Then when it was announced that a younger Magneto would join in the form of Michael Fassbender people twigged that the film would also focus on the two as friends, before any talk of a team of X-Men. Basically combining Fox's now cancelled plans for a Magneto origin movie with Fist Class. Then some more casting crept in. Mystique, Emma Frost(we thought), Beast, Havok, Banshee. Odd choices if they were to make up that first team..what about Cyclops and Jean at least? Sure we all figured those announcements would come. But then Vaughn hinted that this may be a reboot after all when he said he and screenwriter Jane Goldman would be taking a page out of JJ Abrahm's Star Trek reboot. I for one assumed he meant that he would be keeping things in continuity but using some type of plot device to change some things up a bit, thus getting a semi reboot. Could it even allow for the original team? But then in another interview Vaughn said that everything would be set within the established movie continuity and fit into that universe. Ok.

Brining us up to date and we have had Kevin Bacon cast as an unknown villain, Oliver Platt cast as someone called The Man In Black, and some of the most bizarre choices of characters imaginable. Azazel? Darwin? We have younger again versions of Mystique and Magneto, cast switches(Alice Eve out January Jones in as Emma Frost), a character called Angel that might be a Tempest or a Storm and with only a few weeks until the scheduled shoot date, still no word on who one would assume would be the main team members, Cyclops and Jean.

But, even with all this, I'm not worried and heres why. First off, I don't really care that we won't(or most likely won't) be getting the original team. If it follows the established movie continuity but manages to be a great movie I'll be fine with that. Second, even with all these questions its looking that way to me. I have faith in Vaughn as director, Goldman as writer and they have assembled a great cast. A mix of established character actors and young up and comers that have drawn big praise already. Sure I have no idea what the film will be about (aside from theories) but it has me intrigued. I'm exited to see how all of these pieces will fit together. In fact, I have gone from not giving a toss about this movie to anticipating it as much as Thor or Green Lantern! Is that misplaced? Maybe..but maybe not. Like I said, I have faith, lets just see how this one plays out, and at least wait for a trailer before we start slinging the fan rocks.

As it stands the main cast shapes up like this. Zoe Kravitz as Angel and Januray Jones as Emma Frost join Michael Fassbender (Magneto), James McAvoy (Xavier), Nicholas Hoult (Beast), Jennifer Lawrence (Mystique), Caleb Landry Jones (Banshee), Lucas Till (Havoc), Edi Gathegi (Darwin), Rose Byrne (MacTaggert..rumored), Kevin Bacon as the villain, and Oliver Platt as the mysterious "The Man in Black." Vaughn is due to begin shooting in a few weeks in London aiming for a release early next Summer.


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RedKnight
RedKnight - 8/18/2010, 6:58 AM
Still unsure about this. If it is origins on Prof X, surely Cyclops and Jean must be in it.
Anyway good article my man.
oh and......First!! Yehaa!!!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 8/18/2010, 7:00 AM
FOX is doing it...

Thats what up! : P

ORIGINAL 5 FOX, ORIGINAL 5!!!

REBOOT and make a real/quality X-MEN movie, a good one!

Founders a must!

REAL ORIGIN X-MEN = ORIGINAL FIVE or do not bother, no one wants a watered down HOLLYWOOD crappy take!
thesmythefactor
thesmythefactor - 8/18/2010, 7:05 AM
Dear CBM Gods please stop this film from being made for it would be surely less painful for everyone involved
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 8/18/2010, 7:09 AM
TheSmytheFactor @ Hahahaha exactly man, exactly!! : D


I got an idea lol, stick CABLE in X4 and do a STAR TREK and rewrite X-MEN movie-verse history! : P
RedKnight
RedKnight - 8/18/2010, 7:13 AM
Just a thought..if Jackman has dropped outta Avon movie to bulk up to play Wolverine for Wolverine:Origins 2, there may be a chance of cameo in First Class.
MassExecutions
MassExecutions - 8/18/2010, 7:18 AM
Like Ror, I think this film can be good just because of Vaughn. I suspect the characters that are in it are there for the story this time, and not just to shove characters in it. The only thing is, this is one of those times I wish they weren't calling it "X-men" or at least not "X-men: First Class". You know what I mean?
DasBoot
DasBoot - 8/18/2010, 7:19 AM
Fox is going to make me depressed all day lol. Boycott!!!!!!!
Brashlight
Brashlight - 8/18/2010, 7:20 AM
I think its promising that vaughn left X3 due to creative differences. it says he will make the movie he wants to make and after the success of kick ass i think we should give him the benefit of the doubt. it may not be exactly what everyone wants but lets be honest...CB fans are some of the hardest fvckers to satisfy! lets ease off and see what happens.
supertrackmonkey
supertrackmonkey - 8/18/2010, 7:23 AM
I am not looking forward to this movie at all and here is why:
1) FOX is making it
2) It is going to try and stay in the current continuity
3) FOX is making it
4) To many mutants (just give us a great story involving 6-10 mutants)
5) FOX is making it
6) if trying to stay in continuity, the ages of actors is wrong, Prof X is more than 20 years older than Cyclops
7) FOX is making it
8) Production is being rushed, which never turns out good
9) FOX is making it
10) MARVEL isn't making it
Brashlight
Brashlight - 8/18/2010, 7:23 AM
Mass@ i agree, honestly sometimes it feels like the vaughn version wasn't meant to be X-Men: First Class, however, since he was signed on after the title production was chosen he had to go with it. it seems like this will be a different story from first class. but we also don't know anything about the casting so they may just be in talks to sign people on to portray the big parts in Cyclops and Jean Grey and we just don't know about it yet.
FrankLeeGitnit
FrankLeeGitnit - 8/18/2010, 7:23 AM
Face it... the movie is gonna suck...
imnotwearinghockeypants
imnotwearinghockeypants - 8/18/2010, 7:24 AM
If it sounds like a mess, it probably will be.
THEHAWK
THEHAWK - 8/18/2010, 7:25 AM
Just a thought, but some of this might be after X-3. maybe that is why there is no Jean?

@LEEE. No. Rewriting the movie history would only piss off fans and casual movie goers. Besides, they ahven't done anything in the films that wasn't in the comics (besides Iceman and Angel) EVERY character has died and come back, its X-Men. One character is called the fricken PHOENIX
Mixbreed
Mixbreed - 8/18/2010, 7:25 AM
Screw this movie...
supertrackmonkey
supertrackmonkey - 8/18/2010, 7:28 AM
@Ror: With MARVELs and DC/WB track record of making good/solid CBMs, and FOXs record of making horrible adaptations, how can you be "anticipating it as much as Thor or Green Lantern!" You asked if it was misplaced, and your answer is yes, it is.
Brashlight
Brashlight - 8/18/2010, 7:28 AM
Its funny how at every turn, when we even the smallest tidbit of information, we get all bent out of shape and fly off the handle. i bet the directors and producers are releasing small amounts info just to fvck with the rabid fans and get a good laugh. i know i would! it must be fun messing with the people who get all butt hurt when something doesn't go their way
supertrackmonkey
supertrackmonkey - 8/18/2010, 7:29 AM
@Ror: With MARVELs and DC/WB track record of making good/solid CBMs, and FOXs record of making horrible adaptations, how can you be "anticipating it as much as Thor or Green Lantern!" You asked if it was misplaced, and your answer is yes, it is.
superdog
superdog - 8/18/2010, 7:32 AM
come on ror, thor and green lantern? seriously?
rastaZen
rastaZen - 8/18/2010, 7:33 AM
this is going to be an X-Men movie so , I want it to work , I really really really really want it to work but
I sense an approaching train wreck.
I will , however be absolutely delighted to be proven wrong.
KeithM
KeithM - 8/18/2010, 7:33 AM
Rights.

They have a big list of mutant characters that if they don't use by a deadline, may revert back to Marvel.

Vaughn can only do the best with what he's given to work with, but make no mistake - Fox have given him a selection of those whose rights may be nearing expiry (and those he doesn't use will probably feature in Wolverine 2), so that's why all these 'odd' random mutants are showing up, more than those just being necessary for the story.


MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 8/18/2010, 7:36 AM
Supertrack, thats just your opinion though. Personally I loved X Men 1 and 2, thought Hulk was better than TIH and also enjoyed Daredevil. I'm not the one dismissing a movie before its even shot just because it was "made" by Fox. Its being made by Mathew Vaughn.
MassExecutions
MassExecutions - 8/18/2010, 7:36 AM
@Brashlight - Hey, who knows? Maybe the title will still get changed before release. That would be better, but I think it might have been better yet if Vaughn and the writer had just taken their ideas and made and original story, sort of like he and Miller did with Kick-Ass. Maybe its easier to make the story work in an established universe? Maybe its just easier to get funding that way.
supertrackmonkey
supertrackmonkey - 8/18/2010, 7:38 AM
@Brashlight: This film is being rushed into production. If FOX was smart, and we all know they aren't, they would wait and put this film out in the winter of 2011. With the WB finishing the Harry Potter franchise earlier that Summer, the winter would be a huge open market.
Just look at all the films being released next Summer: Green Lantern, Thor, Final Harry Potter movie, Captain America, Transformers 3, Pirates of the Caribbean 4, Hangover 2, Cars 2, Kung Foo Panda 2...
Only contending releases in the Winter are: Mission Impossible 4 and the new Twilight movie.
BrotherQStark
BrotherQStark - 8/18/2010, 7:41 AM
I think Alice Eve should be in the Avengers now
Mileena16
Mileena16 - 8/18/2010, 7:41 AM
who what where when and why?
XxBLACKMASKxX
XxBLACKMASKxX - 8/18/2010, 7:42 AM
To be honest if some people didnt know XMEN FIRST CLASS is how xavier and magneto meet, and how they made the academy and X-MEN.
supertrackmonkey
supertrackmonkey - 8/18/2010, 7:44 AM
@ Ror: The first two X-Men were good (especially the 2nd), I'll give you that.

Hulk was made by Universal, not FOX. The directors version of Daredevil was good, the version released in theaters by the studio (FOX) was not. It had so many plot holes that it didn't make sense.

I have faith in Vaughn as a director, but I don't in FOX. I also had faith in Gavin Hood, as he is a fantastic director, but FOX also happened to ruin his movie too (X-Men: Wolverine).
EpicMan
EpicMan - 8/18/2010, 7:46 AM
Did they ever elaborate on why they never developed Rogue's powers fully? Even if it didnt stay strictly to the source material, you would think it wouldnt have been that hard to atleast give her strength.
KeithM
KeithM - 8/18/2010, 7:46 AM
@supertrackmonkey: They CAN'T wait - if they wait too long the rights will revert. That's exactly why it was rushed into production.

Fox are doing more to 'burst the cbm bubble' than anyone, because for them quality isn't the issue - cranking out movies so they can retain the rights is.

That's not to say they CAN'T be good (being good = more $ at the end of the day), but getting 'em out before certain deadlines so they can retain the rights is the most important consideration for them, so that's why 'expectations' are low.
supertrackmonkey
supertrackmonkey - 8/18/2010, 7:49 AM
@ Ror: The first two X-Men were good (especially the 2nd), I'll give you that.

Hulk was made by Universal, not FOX. The directors version of Daredevil was good, the version released in theaters by the studio (FOX) was not. It had so many plot holes that it didn't make sense.

I have faith in Vaughn as a director, but I don't in FOX. I also had faith in Gavin Hood, as he is a fantastic director, but FOX also happened to ruin his movie too (X-Men: Wolverine).
supertrackmonkey
supertrackmonkey - 8/18/2010, 7:52 AM
@ KeithM: What's the use of retaining the rights if the films you are going to put out don't amount to anything and don't gross much at the box office?
supertrackmonkey
supertrackmonkey - 8/18/2010, 7:55 AM
@EpicMan: She received her abilities like flight and strength from Mrs. Marvel. If Singer had made X3, they might have tried to do it using another character, but it seemed like Ratner didn't like the character of Rouge.
Gmoney84
Gmoney84 - 8/18/2010, 7:55 AM
Do you really think FOX's contract for these mutant characters is that individual? I thought from what had been said that FOX has the rights to mutant characters associated with the X-Men in general. I don't see them losing individual characters. They would either lose the whole X-Men universe or not.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 8/18/2010, 7:57 AM
I didn't realize Hulk wasn't Fox! Ok, well like I said and you agreed with, its not like they never produced a good CBM. And I agree that studio interference is a bitch and probably did hurt Wolverine..although I had only seen one Gavin Hood movie previously. But Vaughn already walked off one X movie because of studio interference and because he felt his freedom to make the movie he wanted was being restricted Fast forward to now when he is MORE established and has a pick of projects, is he suddenly going to just bend over? I doubt it. I don't think he would make this film if he didn't believe in it. I'm not saying he is going to please all of the pedantic zealots that can't enjoy a movie if Wolverine isn't wearing yellow, I'm saying I believe he will make a good movie.
XmutantX
XmutantX - 8/18/2010, 7:58 AM
my only guesses r that..either they r keepin the big named x-men a secret 4 now...or that all these character names r codenames...do urself a favor...use these actors..and make a fan cast outta them and pick which roles they would best be suited 4...u may jus get ur answers there!!...im sure that vaughn is laughing histerical sumwhere at this lil game he is playing wit the fan boys and girls hahaha
AngryRob
AngryRob - 8/18/2010, 8:03 AM
Wow, you guys need to calm down. I have faith in Vaughn and Singer, (I liked the first 2 X-men movies) Vaughn has made some incredible movies, in fact I can't think of one that wasn't good. I'm thinking they're casting people for roles and releasing wrong information (it happens) And just because they don't use the original 5 doesn't mean it will suck. Relax and enjoy the movie!

Oh and I think when you sign up for an account you should get a message saying "Leee hates Fox, the Ultimates, and SLJ as Nick Fury" just so everyone knows, the guy must have carpal tunnel by now.
peterparker420
peterparker420 - 8/18/2010, 8:04 AM
ROR- GOOD CALL! I thought I was the only one who was
curious about how this is going to work!

As to WHY there is NO Jean or Scott..if he's
following the continuity of the X-men movie-verse,
Scott and Jean are DEAD..but then again why
cast a YOUNG proff and magneto?

I'm not sure..but I know I can't wait for a little
taste of a TRAILER!
caowens77
caowens77 - 8/18/2010, 8:10 AM
I know this is gonna sound bad, but I hope this movie flops big time. Just so that Fox says forget it & sells the rights back over to Marvel.
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