Jamedog Reviews Sucker Punch

Jamedog  Reviews Sucker Punch

Sucker Punch is a movie that had all the potential to be something special. At it's heart is a good idea but it fell flat in the execution.

Review Opinion
By jamedog - Mar 27, 2011 04:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Fantasy

Despite being out for barely two days, Sucker Punch is already proving to be a very polarizing movie. I was curious as to how audiences would react to it seeing how I was in fact really looking forward to it, but then the reviews came in. So far, the reaction to this movie has been decidedly mixed, with reactions ranging from extremely positive to extremely negative, and I can see why. Sucker Punch is a movie that knows how to push fanboy buttons, and do it well, but as a movie as a whole it falls flat. I saw it with three other friends and the four of us were split down the middle on our opinions of it, and that seems to be the case all around. Needless to say, Sucker Punch is a movie that has "cult film" written all over it, but I think it's going to fall flat in the mainstream circuit.

Sucker Punch tells the story of Baby Doll, a young girl committed to a mental institution by her evil step-father. While there, she finds that the evil head doctor is using the girls in the asylum for his brothel he runs on the side (I guess, but more on that later) and she escapes into a fantasy world while also plotting her escape. On the surface, it sounds like Pan's Labyrinth but with more guns and explosions, and it's an idea that could have worked and given us something special. I was intrigued the first half hour or so of the movie, but then soon found myself...bored. Sucker Punch's key flaw is that it just doesn't engage the audience, and one main reason why is the fight scenes.

As I said earlier, Sucker Punch knows how to push geek buttons. You have hot girls in skimpy, anime attire, robots, dragons, orc, and steam punk Nazi zombies (yes, I thought that was an awesome idea too). The fight scenes are like something out of a video game: hot girls have to fight monsters to get to their objective, they even get a little briefing in the beginning and have to fight a boss at the end. The fight scenes are big, loud, and pretty, but they don't add anything to the movie. The best action movies, Raiders of the Lost Arc, Die Hard, Inception, all use the action scenes to advance the plot of the movie, something is always at stake to make us doubt if our heroes will win, but with Sucker Punch, the movie could have easily cut out the fight scenes and not missed a beat. The action scenes all take place in Baby Doll's head so there's no sense of danger, we know this isn't a real world so we never doubt if she's going to get killed by whatever monster she's up against. In the world, we see the characters nab whatever object their after, the map, lighter, etc, so we know they already have it so we don't need a big flashy action scene to show it again. The movie really just stops in it's tracks for these massive action scenes and I found myself sick of them after the second one.

These all leads to the big flaw that there is no sense of danger, nothing at stake. We're told that Baby Doll has five days until she gets lobotomized but we never get that sense of a ticking clock. The girls all go for the various items needed to escape, but they get them with all too much ease. The villains are so over the top that we never really fear them, and they really don't do anything dastardly, so we find ourselves not caring.

Another big flaw is the characters, or caricatures as they should be. All our heroes really are is hot, barely clothed girls, video game avatars going from point A to point B. Baby Doll, our main, character, really doesn't have anything to her other than to look concerned and tell everyone her plan. There could have been some great character guilt with the plant earlier in the movie that she accidentally killed her sister, but this is never brought up again. All the other supporting cast is just kinda "there", and one point one of them died and I barely batted an eye.

The line between reality and fantasy became a big debating point as well. Some of my friends thought that the whole thing with the asylum being used as a brothel was all in Baby Doll's head, and at times this does seem the case, but we're never given sufficient evidence to doubt or prove this. The time frame was another point of debate, because it seems to present a 1950's type feel but then plays modern music.

All in all, Sucker Punch really fell short of being something special. Zack Snyder has proven to be a capable director but I think he was just trying to do too many things with this: a women in prison movie, a fantasy, a video game movie, etc. I still have faith for the Superman movie because Snyder won't be doing the script, unlike with Sucker Punch. While this movie is big, pretty, and expensive, it's really nothing more than a teenage boy's fantasy come to life, complete with hot girls with no personalities fighting cool monsters.

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Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 3/26/2011, 10:03 AM
You too hear what spill crew say.
GrimReaper90
GrimReaper90 - 3/26/2011, 12:11 PM
DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT CRITICS SAY. SUCKER PUNCH IS AWESOME!!!!!
McGinnis
McGinnis - 3/26/2011, 12:48 PM
You say there is no danger but in her dance sequences but they are all representing what's happening in the real world.
Kisland
Kisland - 3/26/2011, 1:30 PM
"While this movie is big, pretty, and expensive, it's really nothing more than a teenage boy's fantasy come to life, complete with hot girls with no personalities fighting cool monsters"

Hmmm... last time i checked my "man diary", page 1 said, "Dreaming of one day experiencing a movie that is big, pretty, expensive, and basically is a teenage boy's fantasy come to life, complete with hot girls with no personalities fighting cool monsters."

......Guess I gotta see this movie lol. Thanks for the review.
TheREALHumanTorch
TheREALHumanTorch - 3/26/2011, 5:15 PM
yea but also you must take in to consideration that Snyder was under pressure to edit and cut a lot of content out not only to make it a pg-13 movie, but also content that may have shaped this movie better. Would it have made it far greater and epic on a scale of the first lord of the rings or inception? Probably not, but there may have been a few more scenes of dialogue that could have strengthened this movie. Am i being too nice in saying that Snyder made a better movie than what you liked? Maybe, but i have to say, this movie was what it was; an amalgam of good action movies light on the story like matrix and shoot em up..it isn't the greatest film i've seen but it is a damn good watch.

oh and the greatest movie i've seen (in my eyes and for me only) is Akira Kurosawa's Seven Samurai, followed closely by Casablanca...yea i said it. haha
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 3/27/2011, 5:35 AM
Great stuff dude, I'll move this over to main for you now.

As regards the movie, still haven't seen it but despot the negative reviews I really want to see for myself.
Herosave
Herosave - 3/27/2011, 6:12 AM
I think you're also supposed to ask yourself if the characters of the story really are crazy and really are supposed to be there in the asylum aside from all the abuse they receive while there. At least that is something I'm wondering now, two days after seeing it and after trying to interpret some stuff for myself. I liked it. It definitely had the feeling that Zack Snyder said it would in the other interview, which was that it was supposed to sucker punch the audience. I felt like I got what I paid for, but that I also had more serious/heavy stuff to think about than what I was originally expecting.
xstryker
xstryker - 3/27/2011, 6:43 AM
100% agreement, saw the movie, wanted to love it. But the characters were so flat I couldn't feel for them emotionally. The dialogue was not only bad, but not even "good-bad". I say this as a guy who likes Resident Evil movies and even Ultraviolet, as well as 300 and Watchmen. I saw the concept and thought "Whoah, someone made a movie for me!" I read the reviews and thought "Eh, OK, I figured critics wouldn't like this, but the point is all in the visuals anyway." What I got were a bunch of women that the movie vaguely suggests are being abused, most of whom fail to get any come-uppance except against a few imaginary monsters who feel - and look - completely artificial. (Yes, the fantasy world is by definition artificial, but it ought to be so vivid that I get lost in it and suspend my disbelief for a while)

There was a real lack of story-telling on display - flat characters, failure to make the danger seem real, and a story that completely undermines its own point. If the idea is supposed to be that your imagination, willpower, and guts makes you strong enough to overcome any obstacle, then why do we get an ending where... to avoid spoilers, let's just say that there's very little of that on display.
yanky820
yanky820 - 3/27/2011, 6:44 AM
Saw it this weekend and I have to say I have mixed feelings about the movie. Effects were amazing but the storyline needed work ... overall I give it a 3 out of 5.
billnye69
billnye69 - 3/27/2011, 6:53 AM
Awesome movie, saw it last night. Fight scene on the train was phenomenal.
Bandrews1
Bandrews1 - 3/27/2011, 6:55 AM
Despite the reviews, I'm going to have an open mind and check it out today.
blue18
blue18 - 3/27/2011, 7:02 AM
The critics may not have liked it, but I thought it was amazing. Everything in the movie, and yes, I do mean EVERYTHING, was terrific!
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 3/27/2011, 7:27 AM
SHOOT I LOVED THAT MOVIE...OVERWHELMING VISUALS..IT DELIVERS WITH AND EXTRA HELPING OF WHUP ASS...
DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 3/27/2011, 7:43 AM
Its a Snyder movie, critics dont like his movies for some reason. They enjoy their lack luster mellow drama movies that get rehashed year after year and which are pretty much for the most part the same story told in different ways. Snyder proved that critics isnt ready for originality lol. I thought it was great. All I ask for from a movie is to be entertained, and I got what I asked for. But everyones different i guess.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 3/27/2011, 7:48 AM
Good review. This movie is getting owned by critics, 20% on rottentomatoes, worse than any twilight movie, ouch!

Critics gave Dawn of the Dead a 76%, Watchmen a 65% and 300 a 60%, pretty decent.
Ichaos
Ichaos - 3/27/2011, 7:49 AM
I think one of the problems for seemingly a LOT of the viewers (including a lot of pro critics) is they WERE NOT PAYING ATTENTION. The brothel was also all fantasy land. It was not a brothel operated in an assylum. The only (for lack of a better term) "real" part of the movie was the beginning up to sometime after the discussion of the lobotomist showing up in 5days. I wonder how all these critics and viewers tried to make sense of her step father delivering baby doll twice but the second time dressed as a priest. For those who were not watching the movie the lobotomist was the high roller. Thats why she needed to escape. Again brothel land also was fantasy interpretation of what was really going on. This was not a movie for those that found back to the future 3 (i think it was 3. Not the first or the old west one) confusing. And for those that need proof, this is thr imdb credit for the high roller/doctor(lobotomist)

Jon Hamm
...
High Roller / Doctor

People want to write reviews at least watch the movie
steelrocks
steelrocks - 3/27/2011, 7:55 AM
Guys I watched sucker punch on IMAX yesterday and it was [frick]ing fantastic...

Brilliant story and amaaaaaaaaaaazing visuals.

I totally disagree with so many things in this review I quit reading in the middle.

examples:

starting already with: "At it's heart is a good idea but it fell flat in the execution"

Totally not what I would EVER say about the movie. disagree.


"the movie could have easily cut out the fight scenes and not missed a beat"

disagree

"The fight scenes are big, loud, and pretty, but they don't add anything to the movie"

god, I totally disagree

"there's no sense of danger, we know this isn't a real world so we never doubt if she's going to get killed by whatever monster she's up against"

Nah you are tripping, you didnt understand the meanings behind the story

"These all leads to the big flaw that there is no sense of danger, nothing at stake"

holy shit I stopped wasting my time reading the review right there.

So.. yeah, I dont think it was a relevant review.
steelrocks
steelrocks - 3/27/2011, 7:59 AM
by the way 62% of the audience liked the movie on rotten tomatos. Their bastards reviewers that didnt. I knew that website would rate the movie up, and snyder can make the best superman movie ever and they will rate it down.

[frick]ers, [frick] the reviewers
steelrocks
steelrocks - 3/27/2011, 8:01 AM


This is a must see for any CBM lover. And I can tell you that the great majority of you will be blown the [frick] away
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 3/27/2011, 8:02 AM
Steelrocks, if she is imaging all of the extensive fight scenes, what chance does she have of getting hurt or dieing? Also, I think the reviewer simply meant that the fight scenes did not progress any of the story and were simply just fight scenes for the sake of a fight scene. I haven't seen this movie yet so there really isn't much I can add to this convo. Just trying to clarify what I got of this review.
steelrocks
steelrocks - 3/27/2011, 8:09 AM
Ryguy if you wanna discuss 2 different points from 2 people that watched the movie, you gotta watch it too right?

If I tell you why I have a totally different view than the one pointed out in this article I will give you information you dont wanna hear beforehand.
SuperKalEl
SuperKalEl - 3/27/2011, 8:42 AM
I thought the movie was surprisingly really good...the visual effects were awesome.
KRog
KRog - 3/27/2011, 8:55 AM
I saw it, and it was what I expected; a good action movie to kill a couple of hours. The visuals were quite good, and the concept itself was quite good.

The acting (apart from Abbie Cornish) was pretty forgettable, and its a shame that they wasted Jon Hamm, as the High Roller could have been a far more engaging villain than Blue (who was so ridiculous it was hard to take him seriously). The script didn't really help the visuals.

However, I commend Snyder for delivering a great big "F*** You" to the movie inudstry. I don't think it took itself too seriously, (like too many action movies attempt to do. Avatar anyone?) and I like Snyder's attitude about it. He added dragons, steampunk nazi zombies, orcs, robots, and mech suits because he wanted to. He wasn't out looking for critical acclaim; he was out to make a mindlessly entertaining film. For all of the films flaws, I think he succeeded.
davidwiz
davidwiz - 3/27/2011, 8:59 AM
ey guys,

sucker punch is easily one of the best movies ever made. i have no idea why reviewers like films like the english patient which is probably so boring and not like films like these which make me so excited. the only thing i dint like about sucker punch was the main nazi zombie scene that featured all the girls. i really hate the camera on the shoulder and camera shaking everywhere and camera focused too close in so you cant appreciate the choreography. but easily one of the best movies in the history of moviemaking. i love everything that zack does lol. aaargh to tell the truth i thought this would be THE best film in the world just because the reviews seem to lean forward to much more action but i didnt get as much as i wanted lol.

ey guys again,

this was just the comment i posted on the last thing about sucker punch. looks like full metal disagrees with me so sorry about that lol
mynnDAWG
mynnDAWG - 3/27/2011, 9:07 AM
superman will surely sucks and will turn like a "one hour 30 mins" 3D videogame
Natetrix79
Natetrix79 - 3/27/2011, 9:29 AM
This is the problem with people sometimes they over think things. What aboutthe trailer made you think that this was some Golden Globe winning movie? It's a fun, action, over the top, POPCORN MOVIE!!! This is the kind of movie everyone on this sight BEGS for some studio to have the balls to make and now your mad that it wasn't "Inception"??? I guess Dumb and Dumber was a failure cause there was no danger that Lloyd Christmas was gonna be killed by the Karate Cook! Sometimes just keep an open mind and enjoy the movie, I LOVE Starship Troopers it's one of my favorite popcorn movies did it win any awards HELL NO! But it's a fun way to kill 90 mins and lose myself.
NotThatGuy
NotThatGuy - 3/27/2011, 10:01 AM
Warner Bros and Superman fans should be concerned when Whimpy Kid beats Sucker Punch at boxoffice!!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110327/en_nm/us_boxoffice
RacerREX
RacerREX - 3/27/2011, 10:20 AM
Very well written piece Jamedog! It's nice to see someone post an article that can actually spell. Keep up the good work! I was supposed to go see this in IMAX with my son today but he blew it off. So I guess I'll just pick up the unrated Blu-ray when it comes out instead.
yankeemanf
yankeemanf - 3/27/2011, 10:20 AM
u kno what tho idc if it is like a teenage boy fantasy movie....there r no movies like that eva yet there is always a teenage girl fantasy movie
Weeton
Weeton - 3/27/2011, 10:30 AM
Awful movie. Some people need to set aside the fanboy attitude and critique the movie for its essence...which it has none. Great visuals is the only thing this movie has going for it. But with no direction, a very poorly executed "plot", and horrible...absolutely horrible "acting"; no amount of excellent visuals nor a slew of several half naked hot women could salvage this crapfest.

HBOMB83
HBOMB83 - 3/27/2011, 10:53 AM
Movie was ok. Visuals were great. Girls were hot. The fight scenes were a little repetative. The story was sorta weak. It was worth watching just didn't quite hold up to my expectations.
Lert
Lert - 3/27/2011, 11:08 AM
I have to admit, i watched for the eyecandy, Snyder has the ability to CGI some really cool stuff.. Now to the movie itself.. yes it was boring at times but what really got me to say "what the hell just happened..." was the guy helping out the girls and then at the end he pickes her up in the bus... i thought he was a fantasy character and then pretends to know the girl when she steps aboard his bus...
gaikinger
gaikinger - 3/27/2011, 11:10 AM
wow....this amount of difference in opinion means i have no idea if this movie will be good or bad. i'll just have to go see it.
KRog
KRog - 3/27/2011, 11:29 AM
@NotThatGuy

I don't think that Sucker Punch's loss at the box office will have any impact on Superman's winnings. Sucker Punch performed as well as expected, about 20 million. Apart from its audience, a highly stylized film such as Sucker Punch could not be expected to have a huge haul.

Superman will be far more marketable than an original story about girls in an asylum. A script by Nolan and directed by Snyder will make for a fantastic movie.
CapFanLex005
CapFanLex005 - 3/27/2011, 11:44 AM
it was not the best movie ever by far, but it was a fun movie, and the story had some interesting ideas, I agree that under Chris Nolan's guide SUPs will be way better then this was
davidwiz
davidwiz - 3/27/2011, 11:44 AM
ey guys,

i was just thinking a lot about what full metal said to me. i realize that there are some people who are high brow, extremely intelligent and intellectual and want an erudite and shakespearean type movie. the thing is i did study all that stuff in high school and university and always had scholarships and full honours. what i dont understand is why i cant read and analyze spiderman, or the dark knight returns, or watchmen in school and i have to be forced this high brow stuff all the time. or why i am criticized for loving movies which are exciting like matrix, xmen 3 spiderman 3 or sucker punch. please explain to me guys thanks
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