Marvel Fan's Argument That The Blip Has Ruined The MCU And Multiverse Saga Goes Viral

Marvel Fan's Argument That The Blip Has Ruined The MCU And Multiverse Saga Goes Viral

It's no secret that Marvel Studios has faced its fair share of challenges in recent years, but one fan's argument that The Blip is to blame has now gone viral! Find more details on that after the jump...

By JoshWilding - Dec 21, 2023 06:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Studios

Ever since the Infinity Saga ended with Avengers: Endgame and Spider-Man: Far From Home, Marvel Studios hasn't been firing on all cylinders. There have been a lot of great movies and TV shows during the Multiverse Saga, but also enough disappointing efforts to create a discourse about "superhero fatigue."

The main issue appears to be a shift to quantity over quality; pushed by Disney to tell stories in theaters and on streaming, Kevin Feige has been spread thin and storytelling has suffered. 

Now, a Reddit post has gone viral after one fan suggested the problems may have originated with "The Blip" and the consequences of a five-year time jump. 

I don't know how much I wanna get into this here, but I thought I'd just let my general thoughts be known, but I think "The Blip", while an interesting development for setting up the conclusion of the Infinity Saga, was, is, and forever will continue to be a stain in the storytelling of the MCU. It's such a major universe-shattering event that it has to be addressed and when it isn't, then the projects feel incomplete.

I just watched Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3. It was the first time in a long time that I was sitting there, enjoying an MCU movie. But there was something nagging at the back of my head:

Was the High Evolutionary blipped? Did it affect his experiments? Did the Blip affect the populations he created? This same thing occurred to me while watching Moon Knight. I wanted to know if Marc was blipped or if he was out Moonknighting during the five year gap. Neither of these projects really addresses it, and I feel the further out we get from Infinity War, the less it will be addressed, despite an entire generation of the entire universe having to deal with the repercussions.

It doesn't help with the fact that when they try to address it as a major plot point, it kinda fell flat on its face (FatWS).

It's just going to be a large elephant in the room that fans who have been watching fo years will think about but I fear will be mishandled from now until it's retconned or whatever.

While we don't think "The Blip" is the main issue, it has been handled inconsistently. Some projects, like WandaVision and Hawkeye, have delved into what it meant for a character to have vanished for five years. Others, however, have glossed over it or not mentioned the event at all, leading to a lot of head-scratching among fans.

That five-year gap has also proven to be largely irrelevant, with Marvel Studios largely avoiding telling any stories during that period. At this stage, it's almost too late to rectify this and Marvel Studios appears to have largely moved on from the ramifications of Thanos' actions. 

What do you think? As always, we'd love to hear your thoughts down in the comments section. 

The Blip was terrible for long-term storytelling.
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JobinJ
JobinJ - 12/21/2023, 6:44 AM
Move on. Standard neckbeard groveling and obsessing.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 12/21/2023, 7:08 AM
@JobinJ - This site is powered by that sort of thing, sir.
Orphix
Orphix - 12/21/2023, 6:45 AM
My own personal belief is that the reason the MCU is now struggling is firstly no one really understand the Multiverse - especially as any form of 'saga'.

And secondly who are The Avengers anymore? Do they even exist?

How can we, as the audience, care about the characters and the stories when we can't really work out what the hell is going on.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 12/21/2023, 6:46 AM
Universe wide events have been cheapening narratives since the 80s, so get used to it. For all the fun that comes with a shared universe, a whole load more bullshit follows that’ll muddy the waters.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 12/21/2023, 7:00 AM
@FireandBlood - Yup, it is akin to complaints not enough dealing with the aftermath of the first Avenger film we used to have constant comments on although to a whole other level in terms of films. In the main we don't want (even when we think we do) films spending much if any time going over the stuff in the rearview mirror.

The five year jump within Endgame didn't help as meant we couldn't have time covering events during the blip when it would make most sense to do so. Do feel they could have started phase four with more standalone films set during the blip however including doing a BP film set then to delay directly dealing with the passing of Chad. Shang Chi for instance could easily have been set during the blip I feel and could have had an actual Ronin film prior to the Hawkeye show. Once a couple years have passed from Endgame however the GA wouldn't want constant references to who was or wasn't snapped and how that impacted stuff during the blip unless it makes narrative sense to do so.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 12/21/2023, 7:25 AM
@Apophis71 - It’s wrap for the GA. They already tapped out. Marvel’s whole thing was this shared universe but they’ve already presented the culmination of all that, so there’s no where else to go. It’s why DC’s plans will fall flat on its face again, and it’s why most of Hollywood has already moved on from the idea.

Unless it’s an event or the movie gets insane buzz, nobody’s showing up to these things anymore and we’re seeing that. This crazy love affair with comic book movies is over with.
Rosraf
Rosraf - 12/21/2023, 7:35 AM
@FireandBlood - so you're saying it was... inevitable?
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 12/21/2023, 7:37 AM
@Rosraf -

TheClungerine
TheClungerine - 12/21/2023, 8:23 AM
@FireandBlood - complete facts.
NakedAvenger
NakedAvenger - 12/21/2023, 6:47 AM
The MCU ruined the MCU.
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 12/21/2023, 6:50 AM
A Reddit post?! Who gives a sh*t?! Live with your opinion; we all have them.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 12/21/2023, 7:27 AM
@MosquitoFarmer - Opinions are like buttholes: everyone's stinks but mine.
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 12/21/2023, 7:31 AM
@lazlodaytona - ...About that... well, never mind...

Origame
Origame - 12/21/2023, 6:51 AM
I don't think you can pin it on one thing in particular. Sure, I've pointed to agenda, but even that alone isn't the issue. There's no one thing, just a bunch of things.

But yeah, the blip was an odd choice if they wanted the franchise to continue.
NakedAvenger
NakedAvenger - 12/21/2023, 6:53 AM
Comics have so much material. So many different stories, yet Hollywood insists on making the same movie over and over again. others say streaming is to blame, but streaming is just a representation of our own changing tastes.
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 12/21/2023, 6:58 AM
What an idiot. They use it always when it's needed to a story. Not every fricking movie or serie has to use it.
99OPTIMISTPRIME
99OPTIMISTPRIME - 12/21/2023, 6:58 AM
The Blip? Its purpose was to give Thanos a victory. Post-Endgame, I just wanna see the story move forward.
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 12/21/2023, 8:56 AM
@99OPTIMISTPRIME - exactly
Scarilian
Scarilian - 12/21/2023, 8:57 AM
@99OPTIMISTPRIME -
Wanting to see the story move forward is fine, but if nothing prior has any impact on the story going forward then every aspect is meaningless.

Why have a connected universe if nothing has any longevity beyond the independent films.
cubichy
cubichy - 12/21/2023, 6:59 AM
The mcu has always been interconnected and dependent on multiple stories in the comics. Another example is the half frozen celestial in the pacific from the Eternals, boy did they blow that movie. There is also the infinity plot hole in love and blunder. They never bothered to explain,connect and or close those loops and people notice. In thor 1, there is a giant spaceship in london and 2 fighter jets get there before Ironman, I don't think so. I think the mcu never understood what a comic book movie is and how committed the fans are to the characters, story and universe.anyone of us would do a better job than the corporate drone in charge. Here is hoping they wake up, tie all loose ends and bring the next big, bad to light, so we can get our mcu back.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 12/21/2023, 7:05 AM
This post is from 10 days ago and only has 1,000 upvotes. Y’all really need to find actual news stories because this is desperate shit. 🤣
Vigor
Vigor - 12/21/2023, 7:33 AM
@regularmovieguy - right?! I remember adding a comment to that post almost 2 weeks ago
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 12/21/2023, 7:05 AM
r/marvelStudios has been run by trolls against the franchise for years now.

Who is the worst character in the MCU?
What is the least accurate character/event?
What are the chances of the franchise imploding?

Reddit truly is the "I'm not like other people" of social media.
Vigor
Vigor - 12/21/2023, 7:31 AM
@DrReedRichards - I've had more intelligent mcu related discussions on reddit than here. Few people here want to actually talk the mcu and would instead rant about box office and what's woke and what not.

So I kind of have a special place in My heart for reddit lol
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 12/21/2023, 7:37 AM
@Vigor -

Respectfully, I think that depends on when you chose to join this place.

Right now, I totally believe you. The place has devolved into a shell of what it used to be. A bit less than a decade ago, however, this place thrived on community interaction and exchanged theories or constructive criticism. It was around 2016 and then 2019 that shit hit the fan and everything became more fanaticised for the sake of supporting whatever collective brand as a whole over individual projects from either side.

In my experience, reddit has always been a steady hivemind of agreeable contrarians for the sake of ego-driven circle-jerking mutual affirmation. Very little of value there, but with this place here having become what it is today, I won't deny that reddit might not be as bad in comparison.
Vigor
Vigor - 12/21/2023, 8:04 AM
@DrReedRichards - yes! I joined back during the era you speak of and loved it here. A hidden gem

I long for the days where comic book movie fans actually enjoyed comic book movies again. It made the wait for each release, marvel or DC, so much more fun
bobevanz
bobevanz - 12/21/2023, 8:43 AM
@Vigor - if we can get rid of Josh, there's a chance lol
BobbyDrake
BobbyDrake - 12/21/2023, 7:18 AM
Na, I think the DEI program is what ruined the MCU. Scapegoat all you’d like though.
Vigor
Vigor - 12/21/2023, 7:30 AM
@BobbyDrake - because what's white is right /s
Razorface1
Razorface1 - 12/21/2023, 8:38 AM
@BobbyDrake - whats DEI?
BobbyDrake
BobbyDrake - 12/21/2023, 8:53 AM
@Razorface1 - Diversity,equity,& inclusion. They have to meet certain requirements such as having women, minorities, lgbt, and handicapped people in leading roles and having significant screen time. If they meet all the requirements they get a work opportunity tax credit. This is why so many movies have been race/gender swapped lately.
Razorface1
Razorface1 - 12/21/2023, 10:24 AM
@BobbyDrake - oh got it. You are racist.
Deadinside
Deadinside - 12/21/2023, 11:39 AM
@Vigor -
@BobbyDrake - because what's white is right /s

Unless, you're Chuck Norris...
"Good Guys Wear Black"...!☮😜
AC1
AC1 - 12/21/2023, 7:22 AM
Blowing it out of proportion a little there. Read between the lines - if The High Evolutionary was blipped we'd have seen that reflected in his actions in Vol 3 because of how much of an egotistical control freak he is, so we can pretty much infer from his actions that he wasn't blipped and probably didn't really pay any attention to the lives that vanished during that 5 year period because he simply didn't care.

As for Moon Knight, it's largely irrelevant. We're picking up at least a year after everyone came back by the looks of things, and there was no reason within the story to bring it up. It all depends on the perspective of each character.

Look at Hawkeye - we saw the blip from the perspective of Yelena because she was blipped, and from Clint because he lost his family and became Ronin and the series was exploring the ramifications of that, but they never look at it from Kate's perspective. We can infer that she wasn't blipped based on her age, but it's never actually addressed in the series, and that's fine. We don't need every Marvel project going forward to put aside 5 minutes for every character to announce whether or not they were blipped - if it's relevant, it'll be brought up.

If anyone wants to talk about anything being ignored then the giant stone alien sticking out of the ocean that hasn't been mentioned since Eternals might be slightly more pressing.
elgaz
elgaz - 12/21/2023, 7:25 AM
In some ways the blip is an issue, and in other ways it isn't.

I see it as more of an issue for those who didn't disappear. They had to deal with 5 long years of the emotional and logistical issues associated with their loved ones and half of the population disappearing.

For those who were 'blipped' - they didn't have 5 years of anything, they simply disappeared and when they reappeared it felt like a few seconds to them. Their biggest issue is just catching up on what happened in the 5yr gap and seeing loved ones 5yrs older.
Fares
Fares - 12/21/2023, 7:30 AM
Nah.

I mean it would be nice to explore those five years, but I'm not losing any sleep over it.
MaxPaint
MaxPaint - 12/21/2023, 7:30 AM
This is "news" worthy?
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 12/21/2023, 7:55 AM
Just more reason to forget everything and f*cking reboot this shit.
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