THE FLASH: Warner Bros. Execs Left "Bemused" By Claims It's The Greatest Superhero Ever Made

THE FLASH: Warner Bros. Execs Left "Bemused" By Claims It's The Greatest Superhero Ever Made

A new report sheds some light on how those within Warner Bros. have reacted to The Flash's marketing campaign and it doesn't sound like David Zaslav and James Gunn's bold claims are impressing anyone.

By JoshWilding - Jun 08, 2023 08:06 AM EST
Filed Under: The Flash
Source: The Hollywood Reporter

The Flash's marketing campaign has certainly been unique, with Warner Bros. utilising all manner of celebrity endorsements to convince fans to watch the movie. 

It's been an aggressive approach to touting a movie which is unlikely to matter six months from now when the DCEU ends, but even DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn - who is overseeing the new DCU - has claimed The Flash is 2023's best release. 

According to The Hollywood Reporter, the reason for glowing comments from the likes of Tom Cruise, Stephen King, and Jaden Smith are a result of "one of the more robust screening campaigns in recent memory to build buzz." However, it may have inadvertently backfired on the studio. 

One executive familiar with these screenings tells the trade, "They are spending huge, huge. This is a massive campaign." 

The Flash has a reported budget of $190 million, though there are rumours that between reshoots and marketing, it's ballooned to $330 million. With that in mind, the movie being a flop is something the studio needs to avoid at all costs. 

All those glowing endorsements, including Warner Bros. CEO David Zaslav and Gunn's promise that it's the best superhero movie ever made, have led to "bemused head-shaking from some at Warners who question the wisdom of setting such high expectations."

One insider says, "It can’t be the studio telling you it’s good; your friends have to tell you it’s good."

With a soft $70 million - $75 million opening expected, it appears many moviegoers aren't buying what Warner Bros. is selling. The Flash currently has 71% on Rotten Tomatoes, a respectable score, but not one that suggests it's the best the genre has to offer. 

Also not helping matters is Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse; a flawless Multiverse movie coming out two weeks before The Flash will do the DC Comics adaptation no favours, and next weekend promises to be an interesting one at the box office...

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GhostDog
GhostDog - 6/8/2023, 8:36 AM
Something backfiring on WB?
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 6/8/2023, 8:41 AM
@GhostDog - fill the dumpster with cash before dousing with gasoline
Matador
Matador - 6/8/2023, 9:04 AM
@ProfessorWhy -

mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 6/8/2023, 8:38 AM
Film may end up like Fast X. Lets see if overseas markets can force a 500 - 600 mil total box office. 70 - 75 mil is actually a good opening seeing as most films have been struggling to even make 50 mil
Spagett
Spagett - 6/8/2023, 8:55 AM
@mastakilla39 - It's worth noting that China carried Aquaman to a billion and the viewership of Zack Snyder's Justice League over there was reportedly [frick]ing insane.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 6/8/2023, 10:00 AM
@mastakilla39 - And just like with Fast X, the problem is how ridiculous expensive this movie was.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 6/8/2023, 10:06 AM
@TheHumanSpider2 - Yeah difference with Fast X is that the movie alone is 350 mil without marketing, Flash's 330 mil includes marketing so it has a higher chance of profiting and break even. Fast X needed 800+ to just break even, Flash probably just needs about 600+.

I think all movie studios including Disney need to make less expensive films as Lil Mermaid is barely going to break even too as its only been doing well domestically.
Taonrey
Taonrey - 6/8/2023, 10:12 AM
@mastakilla39 - what are the chances fast x even gets to $800m?
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 6/8/2023, 10:12 AM
@mastakilla39 - It needs $700M to break even.
While this movie deserves what is getting, Hollywood needs to get with the times; the chinese market is gone, and people dont see the same movie multiple times, they cant just keep giving movies these ridiculous budgets, $100M-$200M should become the norm for these blockbusters, not $250M-$400M
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 6/8/2023, 5:12 PM
@Taonrey - low. its dropping 60% or more each week domestically and in its biggest market china. there was a microsoft store leak that says the movie comes out on pvod and rental in about a week or two, but not sure how reliable that is.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 6/8/2023, 5:17 PM
@TheHumanSpider2 - to break even you just need about 1.5 the total cost, to profit is the 2x or 2.5x total cost. No time to die had a budget of about 450 - 500 mil which including marketing and the producers confirmed it broke even and made a lil profit with just a 774 mil box office world wide.
HAILHYDRA
HAILHYDRA - 6/8/2023, 8:41 AM
It’s almost like having a likable lead is more important than spending millions on celebrity endorsements.
AnEye
AnEye - 6/8/2023, 8:44 AM
I’m ready for the reboot at this point.
DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 6/8/2023, 8:47 AM
Oh no they thought it was the greatest superhero movie and others don’t think the same way! The horror! The tragedy! How dare they think that?! What a world!
DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 6/8/2023, 9:01 AM
@DudeGuy - How dare they make such a horrific statement? I just wanna know where the [frick] they get off saying such a terrible thing. How in the mother [frick] could they say something like that and spit in the face of every comic book movie fan out there?!. The mental damage that this may have caused to my fellow geeks is inexcusable. I personally haven’t suffered any trauma from them saying this but I know a few people on this site that are emotionally crippled from it. Unbelievable. Unforgivable.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/8/2023, 8:47 AM
I have a perfect equation for figuring out how much money this movie will make.

The quality of the film doesn't matter. The only two factors that actually matter are Michael Keaton's return as Batman and Ezra Miller.
So the equation is actually simple and here it is:

1. Regardless of quality, any movie that brings Michael Keaton's Batman back for an encore will make all the money in the world.
+
2. Also regardless of quality, any movie at all with Ezra Miller in the lead role will make none of the money in the world.
=
Therefore the indisputable and inarguable answer to this equation is that the movie will make...

...anything between none of the money in the world and all of the money in the world.

And you can take that to the bank. Screenshot this on your phone, take it to your bank and show it to a bank-teller and he will say "Yep, that seems about right that makes sense. Next!"
Take it to your bookie and he will laugh you out the door because it's such a sure bet that no bookie will take your money.
Matador
Matador - 6/8/2023, 9:10 AM
@ObserverIO - Yeah but Batman & Supergirl die at the end so meh I guess.

OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 6/8/2023, 11:37 AM
@ObserverIO - "this is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object"
Nolanite
Nolanite - 6/8/2023, 8:56 AM
It. Won't. Flop.
It. Can't. Flop.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 6/8/2023, 9:05 AM
@Nolanite -
It's going to flop.

You have to sit through an hour of double Ezra Miller before you get to anything the audience actually wants to see and even when you get to that point you still have double Ezra Miller the whole time.
Blergh
Blergh - 6/8/2023, 9:06 AM
The marketing for this was about as desperate as the marketing for Fant4stic
Scarilian
Scarilian - 6/8/2023, 9:08 AM
@Blergh -
It's cause it's not just about getting you to see a DC film, but it's about getting you to see a movie featuring an abusive cult leader Ezra Miller who has done absolutely horrific sh*t so individuals in Hollywood can justify their horrific acts with the excuse of "People don't actually care and will forget once I do a movie"
Blergh
Blergh - 6/8/2023, 9:57 AM
@Scarilian - yes, what gets me more is the ammount of online-trolls astroturfing sites. The influx of new users on the sites I visited that were overhyping the movie and promised the movie would make more than 1B was astounding.

Either it were a bunch of real fans or paid accounts
Arthorious
Arthorious - 6/8/2023, 11:55 AM
@Blergh - WB should distance itself but it’s WB
Scarilian
Scarilian - 6/8/2023, 9:07 AM
Probably a break-even of around $600-$660m, I'm not sure it'll reach that.
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 6/8/2023, 9:38 AM
I still find it odd James Gunn would think The Flash was better than Guardians 3, a film HE made. I mean, I know you're the head of DCs film division, but c'mon.
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