THOR: LOVE AND THUNDER Concept Art Reveals A Terrifying Look At Russell Crowe As The MCU's Devil

THOR: LOVE AND THUNDER Concept Art Reveals A Terrifying Look At Russell Crowe As The MCU's Devil

More concept art from Thor: Love and Thunder has been revealed, this time offering a closer look at how Russell Crowe would have looked had he played Satan instead of Zeus. Check it out after the jump...

By JoshWilding - Jul 20, 2022 08:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Thor: Love and Thunder

Prior to WandaVision's release on Disney+, demand for Mephisto to make his presence felt in the MCU was relatively muted. The character has a lot of potential, yes, but it wasn't until all those devilish teases courtesy of Agatha Harkness in Westview that fans really started getting excited over the prospect of the villain showing up. 

It never happened, of course, and it doesn't sound like there were ever any real plans for the MCU's devil in the first of Marvel Studios' Disney+ TV shows. 

Russell Crowe plays Zeus in Thor: Love and Thunder, but we recently learned that one early idea called for him to play Satan. We don't know why that changed, though many believe it could be because Kevin Feige and company now have slightly more serious plans for Mephisto given how vocal fans have been about wanting to see the powerful ruler of the MCU's Hell in action. 

Of course, with this blockbuster being produced by Disney, we also can't discount the possibilty that introducing a comedic take on the Biblical Satan (as it doesn't appear Crowe was going to play Mephisto) would not have gone down well in America. 

Regardless, concept artist Ken Barthelmey has now shared his awesome take on this scrapped character. "The task was to design a Satan close to Tim Curry's Devil from ''Legend,'" he explains. "Big horns, sleazy and evil. Because it was going to be a prosthetic make-up, I was asked to give him hairy human legs and feet. This is what I came up with."

Valhalla is mentioned a lot in Thor: Love and Thunder, so exploring the MCU's version of Hell/Hel could have played nicely into that idea. Plus, we can't help but think Crowe would have had a lot of fun with this role. 

We'd have also loved to see this happen because Zeus, well, he was a little too ridiculous. Hopefully, there are serious plans being cooked up for Mephisto, but only time will tell on that front. 

Thor: Love and Thunder is now playing in theaters.
 

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GhostDog
GhostDog - 7/20/2022, 8:37 AM
marvel72
marvel72 - 7/20/2022, 8:40 AM
I thought this was a joke first time around obviously not.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 7/20/2022, 8:40 AM
Would've ended up being a joke anyway...


And then proceed to ask "when did we become a joke?"

The absolute state, man...
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 7/20/2022, 8:42 AM

I like this concept especially with Russel Crowe as the devil.
Could’ve trolled the Mephisto crowd real good with this one.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 7/20/2022, 8:47 AM
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 7/20/2022, 8:50 AM
The religion-babies would've rioted
Vigor
Vigor - 7/20/2022, 8:56 AM
I really like the prospect of Blade, Moon Knight, Jack the werewolf, Black Knight, etc... confronting a devious Mephisto initiated plot. Introduce ghost rider in that movie
AC1
AC1 - 7/20/2022, 8:56 AM
Aren't Hel and Hell two different things?
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/20/2022, 11:30 AM
@AC1 - Yes. I mean...kinda? My understanding is they are two different versions of the same thing.

Hel being the Nordic place bad people go when they die. Hell being the Christian place people go when they die?

So, in real life, I guess it depends on what religion you believe that determines which place is the real place.

In a world like comics and the MCU, where multiple realms exist, I would imagine Hel and Hell are two different places.

I mean, even Mephisto isn't considered the actual devil anymore in the comics, even though that was the original idea. But now he's just a ruler of another hellish-like realm, and not actually Satan himself.

Something similar to Belasco being a demonic looking being that rules over Limbo.
AC1
AC1 - 7/20/2022, 12:12 PM
@CorndogBurglar - I thought Nordic Hel was more of a neutral place akin to purgatory or just a generic realm of the dead (whereas Valhalla is reserved specifically for warriors who died in battle while fighting in Odin's name) but there do seem to be a lot of contradictory interpretations online so it's kinda hard to get a definitive answer.

I did however find out while trying to research it earlier that early European Christians may have co-opted the name Hel when translating the Bible (in older languages Hell would've been known by other names) and that they may have done that to create a negative connotation towards the Norse Religion, basically telling them their afterlife is actually eternal damnation and that they should convert to save themselves.

Again, don't know if there's any truth to that but it's a fascinating theory.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 7/20/2022, 2:51 PM
@AC1 - if Tawaret's claims in Moon Knight are anything to go by, they are different places I guess.

And (in the eyes of the Christians) paganistic stuff was often rolled into some Catholic stuff to get them to convert. Guess you could be right by the Hel/Hell thing.
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 7/20/2022, 9:11 AM
"...we also can't discount the fact that introducing a comedic take on the Biblical Satan (as it doesn't appear Crowe was going to play Mephisto) would not have gone down well in America."
- Is this suggesting that this would've gone down well in OTHER countries? If so, which ones and why?
Just a strange comment imo.

While religious beliefs tend to be somewhat regional historically, they do not start and end at imaginary territorial boundries. And to suggest that the concept of "Satan" is something unique to America or even Christianity is ridiculous also, as the concept of a devil ruling the underworld exists in many mainstream relgions spread out over the earth.

There are tons of people all over the world that believe in these concepts and it is in no way exclusive to "America". People will always whine and complain about everything, but the last I checked, we don't murder and stone people to death for apostasy or blasphemy in this country anymore, unlike many other areas in the world.
ImBatman4realz
ImBatman4realz - 7/20/2022, 9:26 AM
Oh so “terrifying” 🙄. More buzzwords in a Josh article… of course there is.

Also, what makes this bloke think that a comedic devil appearance “wouldn’t have gone down well in America”? Like we don’t have plenty of movies with a devils… man this dude is always theorizing with the weirdest logic
IcePyke
IcePyke - 7/20/2022, 9:27 AM
"Tim Curry's Devil from Legend"

Dont you know him, boy!

He's name is Darkness!!

Fares
Fares - 7/20/2022, 9:32 AM
The fact that this was even considered makes me wonder what kind of plans they have for Mephisto, if they have any to begin with.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/20/2022, 10:06 AM
@Fares -
They have no plans, for anything.

Thor L&T killed Zeus. Post-credit scene was added by Marvel later without the directors having any clue about the post-credit scene and those who worked on the post-credits having no idea Zeus being dead.
DarkeyeZ
DarkeyeZ - 7/20/2022, 10:43 AM
@Scarilian - Zeus is not dead. He was thought Dead but is revealed to be alive at the end credits. end credits scene is canon
KelvTwelve
KelvTwelve - 7/20/2022, 11:18 AM
@Scarilian - Looking for source

Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/20/2022, 11:53 AM
The bolt goes through his chest leaving a hole that goes all the way through his chest. Zeus is shocked, tries to breathe and cannot proceeding to give a death rattle. He proceeds to fall forward and falls off his platform which is floating over 100ft in the air. As he falls his body shifts so he's falling head first.

• The writer of Thor 4, Jennifer Kaytin Robinson, revealed the post-credit scene was not part of the script.
• The scene is treated as the death of Zeus narrative with characters in-movie discussing how it may result in them being chased across the galaxy
• Taika has confirmed he had no idea that a Thor 5 was being made, meaning anything teased is not confirmed to be followed up on in future.

It seems to me the movie killed him off, acknowledged his death and then was going to follow up on the aforementioned revenge of the gods by teasing Hercules - but whoever filmed the post-credit scene included Zeus for some dumb reason.

Zeus being alive actively limits the story because Zeus is in charge of the gods and keeps them in check, if he died then you could tell a lot of stories with the gods doing whatever they want and play with the concept of a few of them hunting down Thor... instead it's just Hercules for Thor 5 and Zeus for Thor 6 I guess.
DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 7/20/2022, 9:47 AM
“Terrifying”?
Okay lol
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 7/20/2022, 9:49 AM
I ain't complaining; his Zeus was a blast!
Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/20/2022, 10:07 AM
@MosquitoFarmer -
Zeus was pathetic. He died and the only reason he's in the post-credits was that those who worked on the post-credits did not discuss anything with the people who made the movie.
DarkeyeZ
DarkeyeZ - 7/20/2022, 10:45 AM
@MosquitoFarmer - Zeus was awesome. can't wait to see where they go next with him with him surviving and unleashing his son.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 7/20/2022, 10:52 AM
@Scarilian - what the shit are you talking about? he was laying there with the blast scar on his chest and they were tending to his wound.
Reginator
Reginator - 7/20/2022, 11:24 AM
@supermanrex - it looked like the bolt went through him completely, not bounced off
Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/20/2022, 11:57 AM
@supermanrex -
The bolt went completely through his chest, he couldn't breathe and then proceeded to fall 100ft+ and land head first off-screen. The scene, via every character involved, is played as a death scene. Later the characters discuss how Zeus being dead means they'll be chased throughout the universe.

The post-credit scene seems to ignore this because they want to set-up Hercules for Thor 5 tease and Zeus presumably to return as the big bad of Thor 6 so they can have Thor fighting a mentor figure who also knew his father. You could also have Thor presumably become King of the Gods taking Zeus' place as opposed to just 'King Of Asgard'
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 7/20/2022, 12:46 PM
@Scarilian - He's a god, man. He survived the attack. If it happened to one of our heroes, you wouldn't think twice.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 7/20/2022, 1:16 PM
@Reginator - he obviously regenerated. hes Zeus for [frick]s sake. i knew he wasn't dead from the jump.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 7/20/2022, 1:18 PM
@Scarilian - they also didn't confirm death either cause they were getting the hell out of dodge. im pretty sure it takes a lot more to take out Zeus than his own power being thrown threw him.
m1doriya
m1doriya - 7/20/2022, 11:03 AM
Minions: The Rise of Gru>>>>
Turtleguy90
Turtleguy90 - 7/20/2022, 1:29 PM
Ill tell you this much. It would've been a hell of alot better then him as zeus!
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 7/20/2022, 11:30 PM
I am glad they reconsidered and made him Zeuz instead.
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