Much More From Joss Whedon On The Avengers

Much More From Joss Whedon On The Avengers

In a very interesting and revealing interview with io9, Whedon speaks about the female roles in The Avengers as well as the initial perception that he might not be "macho" enough to make the movie work. Check out some highlights..

By MarkCassidy - Jul 27, 2011 01:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers
Source: io9.com

Joss Whedon is probably best know for his work on Buffy The Vampire Slayer. In that he worked with a predominantly female cast and garnered praise for how well he was able to "write women". Well The Avengers will be the complete opposite, with only two female roles of note. One of them is Black Widow who will be played by Scarlett Johansson, and while describing a scene between her and Mark Ruffalo(Bruce banner), Whedon is full of praise for the young actress..



Well I have to say, I did a scene recently with Scarlett [Johansson] and Mark [Ruffalo], and Mark was amazing, he's so soulful, he's so good, I was like ‘oh this is wonderful.' We turned over to Scarlett's side and I'm like she's really bringing it and there's something I can't describe, there's something amazing about what she's doing, and I just don't know how to describe it, and I was really trying to work it out, like really trying to figure out what is the thing, the X-factor and I realized I've been filming guys for a while now.


Whedon continues, revealing that he has been accused of not being macho enough for a movie like The Avengers..

It was my latent heterosexuality coming out. I was just like ‘girl in the movie again, Kobe's been gone for so long.' It's a little tough because there are really the two female roles that are significant and after a while I'm just like ‘you guys are great, but where's Scarlett?' But we're trying to keep a balance. I don't think it's going to feel too male in the sense of being sexist or empty, and it won't feel like too much like histrionic, like a woman's picture from the 40's. I've been accused of not being macho enough to direct the Avengers. Oh yeah, that's right. Well guess what: I happen to be very macho, so if you see me in a bar and you don't think I'm macho, don't talk to me. You walk away unless you want a cosmo all down your shirt. 'Cause I will. I will pour it.


So how did Whedon go about establishing that macho-ness in the movie?

By blowing shit up. The fact is, there is so much action in this movie, and there is a lot of testosterone just in these characters. The actors themselves are much more giving than the characters are. The cast is a much better team [in real life] than the Avengers are...


He also says that we can expect some human drama and "angst" as well as the 'splosions..

..But the fact is, at the end of the day, everybody is posturing, everybody is trying to one-up the other person, whether it's a conversation or a fight or the movie as a whole, so it's a very macho thing. Although there is a lot of angst and a lot of human drama — which are the reasons you go to the movie, but you're not supposed to talk about them in an action film, there's also a lot of expression of this human drama through hitting each other in the face and blowing up cars, so I think everybody's going to win.


There is much more too. Be sure to click the link below to check out the full interview, along with the video coverage at io9.





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Urban8er
Urban8er - 7/27/2011, 1:32 PM
Hahaha he will make this LEGENDARY!!
BooYah
BooYah - 7/27/2011, 1:34 PM
Hmmm? Black Widow talking to Banner? Probably when they're trying to convince him to join the Avengers. At least thats what I think. Good find RorMachine!
EarOne
EarOne - 7/27/2011, 1:37 PM
"I happen to be very macho, so if you see me in a bar and you don't think I'm macho, don't talk to me. You walk away unless you want a cosmo all down your shirt. 'Cause I will. I will pour it."

LOL...Joss Whedon, man...he's a funny guy. no, i don't mean he's bullshitting about his MACHO-ness, but...he's just funny.

however, with his unproven track record in hit movie making, you just can't blame all the doubters. but, my prayers go with you, Joss.
stumbleMaster57
stumbleMaster57 - 7/27/2011, 1:42 PM
Joss stop getting so drunk.
stumbleMaster57
stumbleMaster57 - 7/27/2011, 1:43 PM
Also maybe the scene from the leaked script?
stumbleMaster57
stumbleMaster57 - 7/27/2011, 1:43 PM
Also maybe the scene from the leaked script?
BooYah
BooYah - 7/27/2011, 1:44 PM
"Kobe's been gone for so long."
Im pretty sure Joss Whedon was talking about Cobie as in Cobie Smulders rather then Kobe. But he might be an NBA fan and misses watching Kobe play because of the lockout.
CraptainAmerica
CraptainAmerica - 7/27/2011, 1:52 PM
He is [frick]in hilarious! His quotes make my day!
superotherside
superotherside - 7/27/2011, 2:09 PM
this guy is the man! he will make the Avengers own everything in 2012 mark my words...

And there came a day, a day unlike any other, when Spider-man and Batman faced each other at the box office, two huge foes fighting to gain the audience, but on that day The Avengers owned all.
marvel72
marvel72 - 7/27/2011, 2:34 PM
the avengers countdown to 27.4.12 has begun

@ otherside

that speech brought a tear to my eye,very powerful & moving.
TheStranger
TheStranger - 7/27/2011, 2:38 PM
STOKED!!!
blvdnoise
blvdnoise - 7/27/2011, 2:38 PM
Nice..
FrankieDedo
FrankieDedo - 7/27/2011, 2:39 PM
Cool! wait...Grif..you didn't complained about that?? WTF Avengers are so awesome that makes Grif to say some not-negative comment!
FrankieDedo
FrankieDedo - 7/27/2011, 2:39 PM
Cool! wait...Grif..you didn't complained about that?? WTF Avengers are so awesome that makes Grif to say some not-negative comment!
Stormbreaker
Stormbreaker - 7/27/2011, 2:51 PM
I'm looking forward to this movie as much as anyone, and I'm hoping that it's as tremendous a film as it has the potential to be.

However (you knew that was coming)...

I don't fall in the "Whedon worshippers" category. I enjoyed Buffy for what it was, and thought Firefly was pretty good, but nowhere to the degree that lots of people hold those TV series and film. Whedon does worry me a bit. He has a penchant for adolescent girl power that's a bit... much. Some examples:

Kitty Pryde is his favorite comic character. As a reader, and when he wrote X-Men. She took center stage.
Buffy (film and TV series) was his pet project about the "cheerleader/blonde" type who is empowered against evil. Which turned into the whole Slayers thing.
In his original treatment of the 1st Toy Story movie, he had Barbie rescue Buzz and Woody.
The character played by Summer Glau on Serenity & Firefly was, yet again, a teen babe who was able to overcome a seemingly invincible threat.

He jokes about not being macho enough, but there's gotta be something going on there. I'm all about strong female characters, but I hope that in trying to make it "fair" for the few females in the Avengers film he doesn't go overboard.

In any event, I'm looking forward to it with unbelievable enthusiasm.

I just wish it wasn't Whedon. I'm just not a fan. But I'm hoping for the best.
Viking
Viking - 7/27/2011, 2:51 PM
Hahaha this interview is [frick]ing funny as shit. Watch the video i swear to god this guy is drunk of his ass ahaha just look at him, he's drunk as [frick]
BrotherQStark
BrotherQStark - 7/27/2011, 2:55 PM
I'm hibernating until May 3rd and then I'm waiting outside the movie theater the Avengers will be a masterpiece
CaptainTall
CaptainTall - 7/27/2011, 2:55 PM
This was hilarious.
TurdFergunson
TurdFergunson - 7/27/2011, 2:56 PM
@Intruder - To keep the balance you have to, either that or spend money on lots of hookers
plasticman
plasticman - 7/27/2011, 2:56 PM
Awww, Grif, finally, you sound somewhat optimistic.
AC1
AC1 - 7/27/2011, 2:58 PM
I'm looking forward to this, but I hope there's a balance. I dont want this to just be explosions and shit. This isnt a Michael Bay film. I want a damn good story too. Again, not to the point that theres no action, but there has to be enough of one and enough of the other
JosePetrelli12
JosePetrelli12 - 7/27/2011, 2:59 PM
IM a DC fanboi, but Im too pumped for this movie...
JackBauer
JackBauer - 7/27/2011, 3:01 PM
I'm pretty sure he meant Cobie, not Kobe.
superotherside
superotherside - 7/27/2011, 3:14 PM
@marvel72

lol glad you enjoyed it... :P
gambgel
gambgel - 7/27/2011, 3:17 PM
I hope Black Widow is a more complex and interesting character this time.

and not just a hot looking woman who knows how to fight.
headlopper
headlopper - 7/27/2011, 3:20 PM
This's paradoxically good news! If the actor's are trying to 'out-act' each other, it indicates the movies' gonna be at a whole notha' level.
CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 7/27/2011, 3:20 PM

Sacrlett sounds like a man, so she doesn't count. -_-
ComicsCommando
ComicsCommando - 7/27/2011, 3:21 PM
He seems so passionate about this, I just hope he makes a fantastic movie.
soaponapope
soaponapope - 7/27/2011, 3:26 PM
hes right though, buffy and firefly always had a good balance of drama, wit and then action
CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 7/27/2011, 3:26 PM

@MarvelWeiner well, she might aswell be .. :P she's as boring as a man .. .YES, I WENT THERE.
headlopper
headlopper - 7/27/2011, 3:29 PM
If the production team were to add another female lead,it would have to be Janet Van Dyne-a.k.a. Wasp,one of the founding members.(and she's hot- and yes, that matters)
CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 7/27/2011, 3:31 PM

@headlopper sooo agree with you! - I'd love that.

I heard Carol Danvers was gonna be involved I think though?
CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 7/27/2011, 3:36 PM

@MarvelWeiner Well, they're good at some stuff, useless at most things.
headlopper
headlopper - 7/27/2011, 3:38 PM
@Cherrybomb- If that's so,being she has Kree genes as well as human, it could indicate a interstellar element in the enemy the Avenger's may be fighting.(Still like to see Wasp though-she's a cutie).
CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 7/27/2011, 3:45 PM

@headlopper hmm could do! yeah I'd love to see Wasp make an appearance, even if she's Banner's lab assistant with shrinking technology/powers ... :D
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