SPIDER-MAN 4: Marvel And Sony Have Very Different Ideas About Who Should Direct; Miles Morales MCU Update
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RUMOR: It Sounds Like Marvel Studios And Sony Are Also Butting Heads Over SPIDER-MAN 4's Release Date
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slickrickdesigns - 11/9/2023, 12:08 PM
It’s funny/sad we can spot a JW article based on titles nowadays.
CerealKiller1 - 11/9/2023, 12:14 PM
@slickrickdesigns - ‘Nowadays’? He’s been easy to spot for years
slickrickdesigns - 11/9/2023, 12:20 PM
@CerealKiller1 - that was my attempt at being nice
CerealKiller1 - 11/9/2023, 12:21 PM
@slickrickdesigns - He stopped deserving ‘nice’ all those years ago, but I do commend you for the effort, you’re a better man than me!
lazlodaytona - 11/9/2023, 1:58 PM
@slickrickdesigns - does it make u feel bold to pick on the writers here? .... that you continually pick on yet, like a sad nerd sitting in his draws living in his grandma's basement?

I actually like this site and enjoy the content.
slickrickdesigns - 11/9/2023, 10:08 PM
@lazlodaytona - so bold that some might call me impact.
I enjoy this site for the actual cbm news, updates and the community.
I’m glad someone likes JW’s articles, good for you.
lazlodaytona - 11/10/2023, 4:38 AM
@slickrickdesigns - well, thank you.
ImBatman4realz - 11/9/2023, 12:20 PM
Whenever Josh uses the word “rumblings” I think of Padme’s corny dialogue from Revenge of the Sith: “there were whispers that you’d be killed”.

Rumblings sounds like a metaphor for a stomach ache or a massive fart (like his post-icles)
slickrickdesigns - 11/9/2023, 12:32 PM
@ImBatman4realz - lol.. passive rumblings
bobevanz - 11/9/2023, 12:23 PM
How many of these are MyTimeToShineHello rumors lol
MotherGooseUPus - 11/9/2023, 12:29 PM
Lets save this article to see how BS it is when the movies finally come out... the only one i want to be true is Scorpion finally appearing in Spidey 4... although i would LOVE a Spiedey/DD team up. otherwise at this point its more like:

garu - 11/9/2023, 12:42 PM
Jon Watts and Zendaya don't belong in the future of this franchise, source: my cat
RedFury - 11/9/2023, 12:52 PM
So if Tom Hollands Spidey is the Prime Spiderman. Does that mean everyone in the MCU is the prime version of their character? Or do the prime versions not all come from the same universe?

I don't have much knowledge when it comes to the multiverse in the comics, so the prime stuff alludes me.
MarvelZombie616 - 11/9/2023, 12:57 PM
@RedFury - The Prime Wolverine is Hugh Jackmans version from the FOX movies.
Tom Holland is the Prime Spiderman and from the Sony universe.
MyCoolYoung - 11/9/2023, 12:57 PM
@RedFury - I've read, and it's a rumor so who knows, Hugh Jackman's Logan is the prime Logan. I'd guess the ones we've seen are the prime versions. Like Halle would be prime storm
The1st - 11/9/2023, 1:07 PM
@RedFury - Wouldn't the "Prime" Spidey have MJ and not be saying bye Felicia essentially...among others. I mean, the prime Spidey's Uncle Ben moment is Tony or mMay... I wish they would not make such asinine comments w/i any logic behind them than real world BS.
RedFury - 11/9/2023, 1:09 PM
@MyCoolYoung @MarvelZombies616 - this is all very confusing lol. Especially if Hugh is the prime Wolvie, when a new Wolverine will eventually be coming are way.

I love the multiverse shenanigans, but wouldn't it make more sense if all the prime versions were from the same universe? It just seems convoluted that the primes can be from all over the place. It creates this sort of uneven feel to it all. My logic is that the prime universe is what all the variants are sort of created from. The basis is the prime universe, and then everything else comes after it. But maybe that's too straightforward for the chaos of parallel universes.
MyCoolYoung - 11/9/2023, 1:12 PM
@RedFury - but branches have been created. Prime versions probably did hail from the same universe but now they aren't because the others aren't supposed to be there. By the end of secret wars universes will probably combine.

But yes I honestly hate multiversal shenigans
RedFury - 11/9/2023, 1:12 PM
@The1st - so true. It would have been better if they just didn't introduce the idea of prime characters. Or just say that the comicbooks are the real prime.
RedFury - 11/9/2023, 1:15 PM
@MyCoolYoung - that makes a bit more sense, but is still overly confusing haha.

If they all combine after secret wars, wouldn't a bunch of those primes just cease to exist too? Which feels like it just undermines the idea of what primes are.
The1st - 11/9/2023, 1:17 PM
@RedFury - This.
lazlodaytona - 11/9/2023, 2:11 PM
@RedFury - "I don't have much knowledge when it comes to the multiverse...."

That's because DC did it first a LONG time ago (mid-to-late 80s) and did it WAY better.
bkmeijer1 - 11/9/2023, 4:47 PM
@MyCoolYoung @RedFury - the prime versions of characters is kinda confusing if versions from all over are the prime versions as it kinda leaves the door open for what universe then should be the prime universe.

The way I see it, all prime versions should be from the Sacred Timeline. So that means Jackman's version isn't the prime version, but we do know what the prime universe is.

Although technically, the Sacred Timeline has been affected by time travel. So it isn't the original timeline. There should still be an untouched universe out there, but it isn't the MCU we've been watching.
RedFury - 11/9/2023, 5:07 PM
@bkmeijer1 - see that would make sense to me. If all the primes come from the sacred timeline it creates a meaning for what a prime is. Everything else is a variant of the prime, giving us a plethora of different iterations.

Having the primes come from all over the place creates a problem. It would mean that the sacred timeline would somehow not have all the primes from the start. But then how the hell do the primes come into existence afterwards? It's like the chicken coming before the egg.

It's a neat idea to think that our MCU isn't actually the one we were following from the start. It would be interesting to see what has become of that one. I'm guessing Thanos 100% won, and half the universe is stll dead and everything is extremely depressing. Or would it have branched off when Dr.Strange used the time stone to win in his first film?
MyCoolYoung - 11/9/2023, 6:18 PM
@bkmeijer1 - the reason it would be hard to believe the mcu gas all prime versions is because how easily the illuminati dealt with Thanos on Titan
bkmeijer1 - 11/10/2023, 2:23 AM
@RedFury @MyCoolYoung - it kinda makes more sense than the primes being from the Sacred Timeline imo. He Who Remains influenced the ST, so I think the branch is far more in the past. And maybe 838 are the OGs
ElvenKingSlayer - 11/10/2023, 2:48 AM
@RedFury - *comicbooks before the 90s are the real prime.
MarvelZombie616 - 11/9/2023, 12:54 PM
Some false things are in this article:
according to imdb Thomas Hayden Church IS in it.
Also it is already in production and on track for a summer 2025 release.

We also know that the script IS from McKenna & Sommers, but the director is still not named.
CerealKiller1 - 11/9/2023, 1:01 PM
@MarvelZombie616 - IMDB is the last place you should be getting confirmation of these things
ModHaterSLADE - 11/9/2023, 1:04 PM
Would be cool if Garfield got more appearances in the role, the writing of the ASM films didn't really do him any favors.
marvel72 - 11/9/2023, 2:29 PM
Put Miles Morales in the Villainverse movies, then I don't have to watch him.

Keep Peter Parker as Spider-Man in the MCU.
bkmeijer1 - 11/9/2023, 4:42 PM
@marvel72 - I kinda want Garfield as the villainverse Spider-Man. Miles has the animated movies, while Holland's Peter Parker has the MCU.

Maybe somewhere down the line after the next MCU Spider-Man has wrapped, I could see a Miles trilogy happen though. And by then, I've probably seen enough Peter Parker anyway.
A2ron - 11/9/2023, 3:30 PM
Why would anyone want to be spoiled about one of the most anticipated releases for a Marvel fan? What a STUPID article. Why does Josh even contribute?
bkmeijer1 - 11/9/2023, 4:40 PM
@A2ron - I don't know if you have checked, but Josh contributes about the majority of articles on this site
JFerguson - 11/9/2023, 4:10 PM
i'll say this once, Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers are the best writers for peter spidey. They inject humor and heart into the character and supporting cast.

Their writing on the villains could be spruced up a notch but same can be said for every other writer on any MCU project besides Ryan Coogler.

I want to see them crack the DD teamup and symbiote story. Seeing them write Carnage with the same demented personalities as the characters from American Dad or Community would have been a dream come true but unfortunately Sony has him on lock.
bkmeijer1 - 11/9/2023, 4:39 PM
No matter where these rumours come from, legit source or not, these are all pretty obvious. I've seen all of these at one point mentioned in comment sections on this site, as these all make sense. It's just educated guesses
DarthOmega - 11/9/2023, 4:51 PM
Spidey prints money for these studios. That's one character that doesn't get old or tiring. Now, I don't know if making a billion different Spidey versions is the best idea. That's one way to make the character stale. So I hope they scale back some of the multiverse stuff. Find out why we love Peter instead of stretching Spider-Man/woman/robot/pig so far we get sick of him. So far so good though.
lazlodaytona - 11/9/2023, 6:21 PM
@DrReedRichards

DrReedRichards - 11/9/2023, 6:27 PM
@lazlodaytona -



I'm beating my head with a sledgehammmer trying to remember, but I'm afraid I'm not comin' up with jackie-shit...
Matchesz - 11/9/2023, 6:32 PM
Tom Holland is WHAT

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