Geoff Johns Talks 'Captain Cold', 'Gorilla Grodd', 'Reverse-Flash' And More In THE FLASH

Geoff Johns Talks 'Captain Cold', 'Gorilla Grodd', 'Reverse-Flash' And More In THE FLASH

DC Comics CCO and The Flash co-creator Geoff Johns talks here about not wasting any time introducing Reverse-Flash and Gorilla Grodd, and goes on to talk in details about Wentworth Miller's take on the villainous Captain Cold and how much work went into accurately portraying that character...

By JoshWilding - Oct 17, 2014 07:10 AM EST
Filed Under: The Flash
Source: Comic Book Resources

The Flash has been a huge hit for The CW, and after record breaking ratings for the premiere, the second episode showed no signs of showing down. One of the best parts about the series is the fact that it feels so similar to the comic books, and this was something Geoff Johns believes its success can in part be attributed to. "I felt like "Smallville" had shied away from the comic book stuff a little bit, but then as the seasons went on, obviously it got to that place," he told the site about how The Flash differs to other comic book TV shows. "With "Arrow" it was more grounded, but it got to that place with Deathstroke, and it felt like it was the next step of comic book television shows. When we were doing "Flash," it was like, "You know what, he's going to have a red costume, he's going to be called 'The Flash,' the world's going to know about him, we're going to do the Rogues, we're going to do Grodd." There were pictures that were leaked online of Reverse-Flash. People were like, "Oh, it's so soon!" Well, yeah, because this is our chance to do a "Flash" TV show. And if this is our chance to do a "Flash" TV show, we're going to put everything we can into it. And I don't mean shoving characters in there, but embracing what it is."

It seems like no one working on the series was too phased by the fact Reverse-Flash was spotted on set and the fact they're wasting no time in introducing him and The Rogues should come as very welcome news to sceptical fans who believed that we'd mostly end up seeing random "freak of the week" type metahumans each episode. The fact that Gorilla Grodd is DEFINITELY happening is also pretty huge, but another iconic Flash villain coming to the show soon is Captain Cold, and Johns had this to say about Wentworth Miller bringing the character to the small screen. 


When I was on set, and he first came out -- it's just really cool to see him hold that cold gun. There was a huge debate about, "Does he hold the gun with two hands or one hand?" Glen Winter, who directed it -- he directed some "Arrow" episodes I wrote, and some "Smallville" [episodes] when I first started writing TV -- I've known him for a long, long time, and we got to talk a lot about Barry, and Snart, and what it all meant emotionally. There are some really cool emotional arcs in that episode that make Cold even stronger of a character, and he represents a lot in the show when you see it. I don't want to ruin the surprise.
 
It was great to have these debates about why he would hold it with one hand. It wasn't just because it looked cooler, it was because of the confidence he has when he touches that cold gun for the first time. It's almost like, "Oh my god, where have you been all my life?" The way that Wentworth portrayed it -- he evolves from this very intelligent and driven criminal, and then he's in a city where a streak is showing up, and it's causing all these problems, and he realizes he's got to evolve himself. This is the first step of his evolution. We talked a lot about the character, his attitude, where he's going to go. To be able to sit there on set and talk with Wentworth and Glen about Captain Cold -- that's heaven, y'know? Especially when you're working with an actor this talented, talking to the prop guys that were making the gun about what it should look like -- I hope people enjoy the episode. I'm really happy with how it turned out.
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Mrsinister
Mrsinister - 10/17/2014, 7:55 AM
I'm excited for grodd! I definitely wanna see some time travel in the next season
yossarian
yossarian - 10/17/2014, 7:56 AM
SuperCat
SuperCat - 10/17/2014, 7:56 AM
Curious to see what they can do with Grodd.
MrCBM56
MrCBM56 - 10/17/2014, 7:57 AM
Awesome. Favorite comic book show right now.

Now run Barry, RUN!
SuperCat
SuperCat - 10/17/2014, 7:57 AM
SuperPickle
SuperPickle - 10/17/2014, 8:13 AM
Tom Cavanaugh looks decent in that yellow and black outfit.
Berserker187
Berserker187 - 10/17/2014, 8:13 AM
Grodd? wow taking a big leap of faith.
batz11
batz11 - 10/17/2014, 8:14 AM
Grodd is going to be so cool, glad they're embracing the 'comic book' aspects...well done!

Grodd87
Grodd87 - 10/17/2014, 8:15 AM
Grodd can't wait one of my favorite villains by far
COREY6487
COREY6487 - 10/17/2014, 8:16 AM
they better keep the rouges accents... i wanna hear scottish and australian accents
LeonNova
LeonNova - 10/17/2014, 8:17 AM
Can't wait to see how they pull Grodd off? I can't help but wonder what villains will they'll even have left next season though.
thewonderer
thewonderer - 10/17/2014, 8:17 AM
[frick] Ezra Miller

Grant Gustin is the Flash.

If only there were a way to convince DC how [frick]ing stupid they are for not connecting these universes. Being so excited for BvS is literally downplayed because of these recent developments.
Grodd87
Grodd87 - 10/17/2014, 8:18 AM
They will always have the rogues none of them will die.
SuperPickle
SuperPickle - 10/17/2014, 8:19 AM
Goddammit.

It's ROGUE. Not ROUGE.

Rouge is red in French.
TheAmarilloBlack
TheAmarilloBlack - 10/17/2014, 8:23 AM
@Grodd
Multiplex is probably dead, tho.
thewonderer
thewonderer - 10/17/2014, 8:24 AM
My initial thinking as to why DC was recasting Flash was because they wanted to cast something more accurate to the comics. A bulky blonde actor. But no! What the [frick] DC. If you were just gonna cast someone who also looks nothing like the comics, then why not just use Gustin?

Wish some reporter would grill DC on this and on how Marvel does this so much better. But everyone's afraid to lose their job.
ralfinader
ralfinader - 10/17/2014, 8:26 AM
Here's hoping Grodd doesn't bring me Sasquatch vs Steve or Hulk vs Bear flashbacks.
RobertLiefeld
RobertLiefeld - 10/17/2014, 8:29 AM
I hope this show really starts to get into the physics of the flash and how he defeats enemies. That is one of the most interesting things about the comics. It is actually one of the most grounded comics, because everything that happens is at the very least based in physics or a play off of it.
ALegendaryPanda
ALegendaryPanda - 10/17/2014, 8:30 AM
I freaking love this show so far! I can't wait to see where they take this story.

I'm also excited to see Ezra Miller's Flash, even though it seems popular to hate him right now
HellBoyzBetter
HellBoyzBetter - 10/17/2014, 8:31 AM
One thing I will give The Flash is the quality of actors. Jesse L. Martin is amazing! This is such a great thing. It would be nice to see Barry as a much more confident character though. He's kinda whiny now. I was worried about his character when I first met the character in Arrow. I am definitely more accustom to the animated persona though.
mendigoblindado
mendigoblindado - 10/17/2014, 8:39 AM
praying for grood doesn´t look like "silver" from the tmnt live action series.

rsrsr
HellBoyzBetter
HellBoyzBetter - 10/17/2014, 8:40 AM
@mendigoblindado You actually watched that?!
TruePunishment
TruePunishment - 10/17/2014, 8:45 AM
I am just excited for the Flash/Reverse - Flash fight. Hope it looks cool!
BlackIceJoe
BlackIceJoe - 10/17/2014, 8:47 AM
Seeing Grodd will be great. The only problem I have with this show is the costume, it's burgundy and not red. I know I shouldn't be talking about it in this show, but how can they pick Ezra craper for the Flash. I would have thought the big screen version would have went with someone in their thirties and not a twig. I wasn't a fan of having Flash and Arrow being apart of the DCCU, because I wanted an older Barry and Oliver, but now I would have preferred that they were in the same universe.
McGee
McGee - 10/17/2014, 8:49 AM
I'm not saying don't make Grodd an actual gorilla. But don't protray him as a stereotype zoo gorilla. Maybe he works in an office.


mendigoblindado
mendigoblindado - 10/17/2014, 8:53 AM
@RodimusPryme unfortunately but it was just a glimpse of an episode, you know zapping an then "WTF is this?" rsrsrs
spoonman
spoonman - 10/17/2014, 9:08 AM
Finally, just embrace comic books as they were meant to be, larger than life and flamboyant. The fact that they are not going to beat around the bush is also a relief, this building up thing that last and entire season just to introduce a character has become too cliche.
staticdash
staticdash - 10/17/2014, 9:14 AM
That's the stupidest reason I have EVER heard. TV and movie universes aren't connected so that ruins your enjoyment of a movie that is 2 years away? This is where you should stop posting dude. You answered your own question for why it would not work. A movie that's literally on it's final drafts being affected by world changing events of a TV show happening the fall of every year? How does that make sense with the lore the movie universe is trying to have? For every thing that happens in Arrow/Flash that involves major DC villains, the movies will have to work around that. I still see no reason why Zach Snyder and the DCCU writers should have to ask the TV shows what they're planning for the season, so they could write around that in the movie. Then there's the issue of licensing of characters, which there is a threat of overload if they're not managed properly.

Agents of shield works, because these are minor characters taking on minor villains, and riding off the momentum of the movies. Flash and Green Arrow aren't minor heros, they're A & B level members of the justice league, with flash being a founding member. The enemies they fight can have pretty big effects on the larger DC universe, plus there's a whole lot of lore explained there, that the movies are going to deviate from. It just won't work, based off the simple fact of lore difference between TV and movies. There's stuff changed for the TV audience that will be adapted different for the movie audience. This conversation shouldn't still be happening. It's common sense, use your head people.
nld3
nld3 - 10/17/2014, 9:16 AM
I love it. Way to go Geoff Johns that's the way to do a Superhero TV show. Not wait & wait trying to hook non-fans first with lame regular stories featuring no super beings and the lack of costumes. While loyal comic book fans have to wait until Season 4 or 5 to see comic villains like in the comics. This is the reason I never watched whole seasons of any superhero TV shows since the last Flash series. Even Arrow didn't interest me with its grounded no mask even approach. I was just about to get into it this year after Deathstrokes & Barry Allen's appearances. But now that I hear that Arrows producer say he's going back to the more grounded show like season one I'm not interested. Even The Incredible Hulk lost me when it was always the same story week after week villains like Bullies, Mobsters or Bikers never interested me. Only one time the Hulk battled another Hulk by then the series was done.
Lemons
Lemons - 10/17/2014, 9:37 AM
"...we're going to do Grodd."

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Mrsinister
Mrsinister - 10/17/2014, 9:38 AM
What they should do is let the Flash tv show run its course. THEN on the series finale have him do something to where he accidentally transports himself to the DCCU. That'd be so awesome!!
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