MARVEL STUDIOS Feature: Working Titles & Production Company Names; Why Do They Do This?

MARVEL STUDIOS Feature: Working Titles & Production Company Names; Why Do They Do This?

Marvel Studios is known for using working titles while their films are in production, as well as strange production company names. But why do they do this?

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By TheDailySuperHero - Jun 21, 2013 06:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers




Since Marvel Studios started as their own in-house studio and released Iron Man back in 2008, they have used a process of working titles and strange production company names while filming their movies. The working titles usually relate to the movie in some sort of way, as well as the production company name.

But why do they do this?

Let's start with the working title concept. This is done to somewhat conceal what the actual movie is that they're filming. The concept can be traced back to the early 1980s when films like E.T. had the working title A Boy's Life and Blade Runner had the working title Dangerous Days. For Marvel, this worked in the beginning. But now that Marvel Studios is one of the most successful studios in Hollywood if they are filming in your town... you'll know it mainly because of local and online news sites calling the production by it's real movie title. Only the crews refer to themselves and their employers by these working titles and production company names.

Here are just some of the working titles used for Marvel Studios movies so far: Iron Man 2 was Rasputin, Captain America: The First Avenger was Frostbite, The Avengers was called Group Hug, Iron Man 3 was Caged Heat, Captain America: The Winter Soldier is called Freezer Burn and it has been newly announced that Guardians of the Galaxy will be called Full Tilt.

Moving on to the strange production company names Marvel Studios uses. It is a similar strategy used to conceal the fact that Marvel Studios is filming but instead they use production specific company name for each film. Why this is done remained a mystery until The Daily SuperHero reached out to a legal source, who specializes in intellectual property, for some hopeful clarification.

According to the legal source, a different production company name is being used in order to protect Marvel. The source mentioned how for each of Marvel Studios' productions a new LLC is created. In other words, a brand new production company is created for every Marvel movie.

Without seeing any paperwork, the legal source did say this is a professional opinion based on information that is available but also stated how each movie budget is most likely provided to each new LLC production company as it's "start-up fund." Now if something terrible happened to any employee working on a particular film, per the source, the injured could only pursue legal action against that production company LLC and not Marvel Entertainment, or Disney. Of course an injured person can try to go after the bigger fish but if their paychecks say the production company name on it, then that's who they can go after.

An example of some of the production company names with their respective film are as follows: Vita-Ray Productions and Vita-Ray II Productions was, and is, for Captain America: The First Avenger and Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Asgard Productions UK II Limited was for Thor: The Dark World and now Infinity Works Productions UK will be for Guardians of the Galaxy.

An interesting way of doing business, especially when put into context that any employee who wanted to pursue legal action due to injury, or whatever, can only go after the production company and not the bigger fish. Smart.


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LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 6/21/2013, 7:08 AM
So Rasputin was the working name for Iron Man 2.

Rasputin was also the main villain in Hellboy 1.

;P
BlanketMan
BlanketMan - 6/21/2013, 7:09 AM
It was kinda funny when I was at the filming of Cap 2 in DC, and non-movie-fans would walk by and ask a crew member what movie was being filmed. "Freezer Burn" was always the answer, and the people would lose interest. Of course, the dozens of us in-the-know fans who were there would just chuckle. So these silly production names do filter out the non-fans when they're filming on location, apparently.
thorhulk77
thorhulk77 - 6/21/2013, 7:10 AM
what about thursday mourning for T:TDW?
DrRockit13
DrRockit13 - 6/21/2013, 7:11 AM
Makes sense. They are pretty much working for a new 'Start Up' company on every movie.
revloveR
revloveR - 6/21/2013, 7:15 AM
frostbite? freezer burn? poor cap XD
TjAnthon369
TjAnthon369 - 6/21/2013, 7:19 AM
@TheDailySuperHero You forgot 'Thursday Mourning' for Thor: The Dark World, LOL
StarkAnthony
StarkAnthony - 6/21/2013, 7:28 AM
I'm pretty sure the production company is also part of the Hollywood financing trick where they loan themselves money that they are always trying to pay back resulting in the movie never becoming "profitable"
ParisSun
ParisSun - 6/21/2013, 7:39 AM
StarkAnthony, yes Hollywood studis need to be investigated like many Wall Street corporations. It's amazing that they always struggle to make profits yet each year these studios kick out movies that cost 200 mil plus to make. "We're so poor." And then the exibitors shoot their ticket prices through the roof as well because they are so poor.
TheRedSkull
TheRedSkull - 6/21/2013, 7:40 AM
Hey it's smart, you gotta hand it to them. And those working titles always tell us something about the movie in some ways. Frost Bite (Cap being frozen), Group Hug (A big group coming together)...now GOTG...I'm having a tough one with Full Tilt
titansupes
titansupes - 6/21/2013, 7:43 AM
The 'create a company for individual jobs to protect the actual company' thing is very common place in business. That's what my company does.
LFANCH
LFANCH - 6/21/2013, 7:51 AM
I'm more interested in the production company names. Vita-ray is related to Cap. Of course Asgard is related to Thor. So how is 'Infinity' related to GotG? GEMS
Pheezmatic
Pheezmatic - 6/21/2013, 8:00 AM
@TheRedSkull ....im more intrigued by the production company name for GOTG.... Infinity Works Production? Hmmm...Infinity...gauntlet? Infinity....Gems? Infinity...War? Infinity...crusade? I have a feeling this movies gunna be ill.
SimyJo
SimyJo - 6/21/2013, 8:05 AM
Thor was 'Manhattan' - Revenge/Return of the Jedi was 'Blue Harvest'... it's studio tradition. Also Marvel go way beyond just the initial film title as far as hinting at what's being filmed! - Capt. A TFA' s production company was called 'Vita-Ray Productions'!.
plasticman
plasticman - 6/21/2013, 8:11 AM
@HouseofEx...- I think you may be on to something. If you have read any of the more recent GOTG comics this sounds like something in reference to passing through a wormhole or alternate reality travel. Heck, it could be a referring to a hijinx-filled gravity on/off scene as was done on the space station in the 80's GI Joe cartoon.
TheAbomination
TheAbomination - 6/21/2013, 8:29 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting
TheAbomination
TheAbomination - 6/21/2013, 8:32 AM
This isn't just Marvel Studios. Every Hollywood studio sets up some bullshit LLC company for each movie. It's all a part of a scheme in the industry called Hollywood accounting. Google it sometime.
Cth
Cth - 6/21/2013, 8:50 AM
It's also to keep rip off artists from making bootleg merchandise.

iE: Revenge of the Jedi t shirts being created by bootleggers.
fortycals
fortycals - 6/21/2013, 9:48 AM
Infintity doesn't really have to be related the the IG. It could just be a reference to the abstract character, that is the representation of the entire marvel multiverse. A being made of all the galaxies, marvel cosmic, GoTG it all fits.
NeoBaggins
NeoBaggins - 6/21/2013, 9:58 AM
And then there's that MARVEL studios production LLC nasdaq 920 redemption tax, disclosure exposure copy-write trademark actors guild w2 form 1138 scotch tape and chicken fingers

EpitomeofAwesome
EpitomeofAwesome - 6/21/2013, 10:20 AM
Oh, full tilt. LOL, I thought it said "Full tit" :P
SugarYumYum
SugarYumYum - 6/21/2013, 10:56 AM
Infinity works.

Holy shizzballs.

"Full Tilt" is drawing a blank though.
Zuriel
Zuriel - 6/21/2013, 11:25 AM
Who cares.
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 6/21/2013, 12:23 PM
"to make little boys Or girls ask questions"???
militantcharles
militantcharles - 6/21/2013, 1:01 PM
Iron man 4 electric boogaloo
ninjahulk
ninjahulk - 6/21/2013, 1:38 PM
zzzzz
SINema666
SINema666 - 6/21/2013, 3:10 PM
I work in the film industry in LA. I do lighting. I worked on TDKR, avengers, inception, CATWS etc.

Its as simple as this. Its hard enough to make a massive movie without hordes of fans lurking. It becomes downright impossible to do so when every tourist and fanboy this side of vegas wants to see an action sequence occur and then start bitching about how long we take to do them because they have tickets for the el capitan that night.

The running joke that most crew members say when asked what we are shooting is "Mayonaise Commercial" simply because thats the most boring thing we can think of that virtually no one will ever want to stay and watch.

I may sound elitist and snobby, but do you have any idea how hard my job is? i lift my body weight in copper cable 300+ a day and walk it 100 feet. Try going to the gym and lifting weights for 12-16 hours straight, all while every one in the gym is asking you "so... whatcha doing?" "oh nothing really. i just thought it would be fun to slowly develop scoliosis and have 75 year old knees on a 30 year old mans body."

thats why we try to shoo away onlookers.
Luko
Luko - 6/21/2013, 4:57 PM
DICKHEAD !!!
MaxFaraday
MaxFaraday - 6/21/2013, 5:53 PM
individual LLCs are common in most movie houses, not just Marvel. you can find the LLC name at the very end of the credits in most movies. this is done for many reasons, but I imagine the most important function of this is to keep the individual movie budgets and profits straight. with a corporation like Marvel that makes more than just movies, it is important for them to be able to differentiate where there are spending money and what is making them money. for instance, toy sales for Captain America and Captain America 2 are still sources of income, but they come from different marketing budgets, so they must go back to the different LLCs created for each production.

like, Tim Burton isn't going to get Christopher Nolan profits even though they were both selling Batman.

as far as if an employee gets hurt - that's when it gets more complicated. it would depend on union agreements, contracts, who insured the movie, or even whoever holds the completion bond. but it's not likely that they aren't doing this to skip out on insurance payouts.

yeah, and working titles, also done by nearly every house for nearly every production. it's just to keep the pandemonium of a hollywood shoot to a minimum. sure there are many ways to find out the name of the movie you are waiting for, and of course that working title is going to be leaked, but when average people see lights and cameras and trailers, they'll stop and ask even if they don't care, just so if it is something exciting they can tell their friends - that's just the way people are.
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