The Human Torch Will NOT Be In Captain America: The First Avenger!

The Human Torch Will NOT Be In Captain America: The First Avenger!

Christos Gage, the writer of video game tie-in Captain America: Super Soldier, has read the movie script and seemingly reveals that the android Invader will not appear in either adaptation...

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By JoshWilding - Oct 14, 2010 02:10 PM EST
Filed Under: Captain America
Source: Crave Online

In an interesting interview about Captain America: Super Soldier (the full version of which you can find by clicking on the link at the bottom of the page) comic book writer Christos Gage was asked about who else fans should expect to see turn up and revealed the following intriguing piece of information.



"They’re not necessarily going to be who you expect, like for instance we can’t use Human Torch because he’s part of the Fantastic Four, which is licensed to Fox. I can’t say who because that’s me giving away movie secrets. I have read the script, but I signed an NDA, and if I say the wrong thing the black helicopters come in!


It's fair to assume that if licensing issues mean that the Invader isnt allowed to appear in the video game, the same rule applies for the upcoming live action movie! I'm a little surprised by this as the Human Torch of the Fantastic Four and the android John Hammond from WWII share nothing other than the same name and similar look.

Regardless, Fox clearly hold the right to both the characters name and look, so along with Namor, it looks like the Human Torch is yet another Invader who wont be a part of Captain America: The First Avenger. We know Bucky and Union Jack will feature alongside Steve Rogers, but what of Spitfire and the also fiery Toro? Be sure to share your thoughts in the usual place!

Captain America: The First Avenger is set to be released on July 22, 2011!



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Destroyer14
Destroyer14 - 10/14/2010, 2:27 PM
I guess that makes sense. However, I think they could have gotten away with it, since the Human Torch of the 40's and the one currently are two different people.
LucasMend
LucasMend - 10/14/2010, 2:31 PM
It was obvious, but is serious that Namor will really not be on it? Does FOX owns Namor too? if they do [frick]ing FOX!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/14/2010, 2:31 PM
: P

XENIX @ lol!

And thats NOT the same character!

Thats BS what they said up there, they just don't want torch in a CAP movie with Evans as CAP!

And yes it does SUCK! :)
JaySchluffy
JaySchluffy - 10/14/2010, 2:32 PM
Gaaaaah.
sagekilz
sagekilz - 10/14/2010, 2:33 PM
so long invaders.
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 10/14/2010, 2:34 PM
Great stuff Josh! I'm not going to be disappointed with whoever they are able to include in the film. :D
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 10/14/2010, 2:35 PM
They can always re-name the guy, remember marvel use to have Carter Slade as The Ghost Rider and they Renamed him. They could call this guy American Torch or the Human Flame or just Torch. And they can always avoid being sued by fox because they have proof this is inspired by an Original Marvel Character. Not one owned by FOX
StrangerX
StrangerX - 10/14/2010, 2:38 PM
Thanks for the heads up josh. At least I know not to give my hopes up
the420fanboy
the420fanboy - 10/14/2010, 2:39 PM
I met Christos Gage at wizard world, kinda a dick
Tymminator
Tymminator - 10/14/2010, 2:43 PM
Call him Toro then. :P
Paulley
Paulley - 10/14/2010, 2:43 PM
"Human Torch" as in the name is under license.. and due to the characters being so similar.. and in any case he wouldnt fit in the movie cus he's a frikkin flaming android!!!

And Namor wont be there cus a he's either under the same license as Fantastic Four (or less likely X-Men) and the guy fly with the aid of frikkin mini wing on his ankles!!!

lol
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 10/14/2010, 2:48 PM
Thanks guys! :) I'm not in the least bit surprised that we wont see the character in this movie...the similarities to the FF version are too much for Fox to allow regardless of the different origin and name. It's a pity, but good in some ways, as a character like John Hammond would steal the spotlight from Captain America and Bucky. IMO, the focus should be on the 100%.

Intruder: I believe that Ed Gross was told by Joe Johnston himself that Namor wouldnt be in the movie, I'm afraid bud! I'll see if I can find the link for you.
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 10/14/2010, 2:49 PM
[frick]!
Paulley
Paulley - 10/14/2010, 2:51 PM
also Union Jack wont appear... only a soldier named Falsworth.

The Invaders are nothing more than a group of soldiers like Howling Commandos
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/14/2010, 2:52 PM
marvel studios is making a mistake not including the original human torch,it would of been a great link to the avengers 2 where they could of introduced the vision.
Tymminator
Tymminator - 10/14/2010, 2:54 PM
I wanted to see Namor. I guess I'll have to wait a while to see how Namor eventually gets introduced to this Marvel Film Universe.
UltimateAvenger
UltimateAvenger - 10/14/2010, 2:54 PM
i think it is a good thing... cause non comic book fans will get confused. you know, seeing chris evans as cap. and having someone by the name of human torch that is not chris evans from FF4... would confuse those who are not loyal comic book fans. just saying.
tazmaniak
tazmaniak - 10/14/2010, 2:55 PM
No, Fox doesn't own the rights to Namor.Kevin Feige already stated at last year's ComicCon that even though Fox owns the film rights to Fantastic Four, Mravel still has the rights to affiliated characters such as Namor, the Inhumans and the Skrulls.
ManThing
ManThing - 10/14/2010, 2:56 PM
No big shocker there. I saw this coming. No Union Jack, no Sub Mariner, no Human Torch
Of course I am disappointed. I mean how can they even call this the Invaders?

I doubt it will ruin the movie or anything, but it's unfortunate. I think the image of Cap in command of a bunch of guys that are more powerful than he is could have been an important set up for Avengers. C'est la vie
Tymminator
Tymminator - 10/14/2010, 2:58 PM
I don't think anyone said Fox owns Namor...theres just debate if he's gonna show up in this flick.
Eviltwin
Eviltwin - 10/14/2010, 3:00 PM
Interesting news, but not surprising.

I just can't wait till we start getting more and more about this movie. SO excited for CA:TFA.

Good find Josh!

Do you think Captain Britian will make an appearance in the game? That's be pretty cool.

That action figure of CB looked sweet!
jazzman
jazzman - 10/14/2010, 3:00 PM
not shocked that Human Torch is not in the movie at all
jjmeylar
jjmeylar - 10/14/2010, 3:05 PM
They could have just called him Jim Hammond, but w/e. I didn't expect to see him. I just want Union Jack and Namor.
Tymminator
Tymminator - 10/14/2010, 3:06 PM
Actually, this makes no sense.

I just remembered Kevin Fiege in a past article actually mentions the opposite.

That although he had no idea if they would use him in the Cap movie, but went on to say Marvel did indeed hold the rights to the Android Torch...

Found one link...

http://www.chud.com/articles/articles/20256/1/COMIC-CON-09-CAPTAIN-AMERICA-MAY-FIGHT-ALONGSIDE-THE-INVADERS-AGAINST-HYDRA/Page1.html
sexfoodcomics
sexfoodcomics - 10/14/2010, 3:07 PM
they have to at least hint to Namor, if not I'm sure we will see him in a marvel movie eventually.
secretasianboy
secretasianboy - 10/14/2010, 3:09 PM
that's ok we didn't expect him
put in namor and it'll all be fine
SKOne
SKOne - 10/14/2010, 3:13 PM
Marvel does own the World War II Human Torch rights, but can't use him, because FOX decided it would be too confusing for the casual fan to tell the difference between Johnny Storm and Jim Hammond. The Human Torch is still likely to have a nod his way in some form even if it isn't in the script. It is also very unlikely that Namor will appear physically, but I do expect maybe some enemy comments about him or a S.H.I.E.L.D. file on him to appear. It is probable that the Invaders will be Cap, Bucky, Peggy Carter, Patriot, Union Jack, Spitfire, and the Golden Girl.
jazzman
jazzman - 10/14/2010, 3:13 PM
@Tymminator

i remember him saying they hold the rights too Human Torch but it does not mean his going to use the character. it will get confusing if in Captain America movie they use Human Torch and in the F4 reboot they use Human Torch lol.

he said it in the SDCC Iron Man 2 panel heres the interview

http://www.comingsoon.net/comiccon/feige.mp3
Paulley
Paulley - 10/14/2010, 3:14 PM
@Eviltwin: Captain Britian is a mordern day hero he wasnt active during world war two.. so no hopefully he wont.

Plus he deserves his own movie.. Brian "Captain Britian" Braddock's farther got killed during the war and was replaced by another dimensional version that fathered Brain, Betsy "Psyloke" and Jamie
Tymminator
Tymminator - 10/14/2010, 3:14 PM
Yeah, I think we can be pretty darn sure that Torch won't be in the film, and maybe because he's not in it, Gage assumes it’s because of Fox (I can see that as a logical guess), although it may simply be that Marvel chose not to go that route.

Either way, regarding the Android Torch’s rights itself, either Gage is right or Feige is, and since this is more Fiege's area, I'm going with him.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 10/14/2010, 3:18 PM
Eviltwin: Well, Captain Britain wasnt born in WWII so I sure as hell hope he's not in the movie or game regardless of how desperate I am to see him on the big screen, lol! :P That action figure looked awesome though. As Paulley says above, he deserves his own movie!
Paulley
Paulley - 10/14/2010, 3:20 PM
I guess we could get normal soldiers named Falsworth, Hammond, McKenzie (Namor's human surname) and Toro
Eviltwin
Eviltwin - 10/14/2010, 3:21 PM
@ Paulley @ Josh

Sorry dudes, my bad, lol.

Oh damn, your right. Brain skipped a beat there for a sec. Well, as long as Union Jack get in there........

A CB movie would be good, a Marvel animation one might even be better.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 10/14/2010, 3:22 PM
Personally, I'd love to see Marvel make a Band of Brothers type of TV show featuring the Invaders. Give Chris Evans and Sebastian Stan a brief cameo but spend 12 episodes focusing on the team. In Captain America: The First Avenger, the focus should be on Cap and Bucky though IMO.
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