Detailed Review: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1 and the whole franchise

Detailed Review: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1 and the whole franchise

I review, in detail, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1. Included are small reviews of the previous movies. SPOILER ALERT: Turn away if you don't want to have the ending SPOILED!

Review Opinion
By YakeTheSnake - Nov 19, 2010 11:11 PM EST
Filed Under: Fantasy



I was one of thousands who flocked to their local cinemas to watch the first part of the last installment in the “Harry Potter” series, “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1,” at 12:05 AM on November 19, 2010. I’ve been a huge fan of the books since Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone initial release. When I heard that movies were to be made based upon these books, I was ecstatic. I couldn’t wait to see if my imagination would be met when the films were released. And I wasn’t disappointed. “Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone” followed damn close to the source material, only leaving out small bits, the biggest of which was the tasks put into place to reach the Philosopher’s Stone. Then came the theatrical release of “Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets.” Again, I was not disappointed. They left out some bits from the book, but nothing too detrimental to the story. But, from there, the films fell from grace, a bit.




“Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban” failed to meet my, and many other fans’, expectations based upon the book. Following the death of Richard Harris, who portrayed “Professor Dumbledore” in the first 2 installments, a new “Professor Dumbledore” was found in Michael Gambon. This seemed like the natural pick, but left some missing the wonderful Richard Harris. This one followed decently close to the book, but left quite a bit out. And, on top of the missing material, left a bad taste in the mouths of fans for its unusual amount of “campy” and “cheesy” dialogue.


Then, with the release of “Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire,” a lot of faith was lost with the fans of the books. This cinematic interpretation of J.K. Rowling’s fourth book, took a lot of liberties with the source material. Leaving out quite a bit from the book(reasons, as stated by WB, being that the book was too long to be fully interpreted into film), but adding in it’s own elements. Such elements included was the, rather ridiculous, “tongue tick” of “Barty Crouch, Jr.” The entire story of his escape from Azkaban, which was an element of the story I felt was needed. As well as making “Professor Dumbledore” a much more emotional being than he actually was in ANY of the books. Not to mention the rushed, piss-poor version of the Tri-Wizard Maze at the climax of the “Tri-Wizard Tournament.”


I was less excited than usual when they released “Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix” in the cinemas. I wasn’t nearly as disappointed as I was with the previous film, but some things left out rubbed me the wrong way. Mainly the entirely nixed “St. Mungo’s Hospital” scene. This, I thought was a much better, more poetic way to reveal “Neville Longbottom’s” family history. As well as the awkward transition from this epic battle between “Voldemort” and “Albus Dumbledore,” to “Harry Potter” and “Professor Dumbledore” sitting quietly, calmly discussing the death of “Sirius Black.” In the film, this scene was much more intense, also alluding to “Dumbledore’s” mysterious past. Another thing about this movie really pissed me off: The exclusion of “Dobby the Freed Elf,” my favorite character from the books.


“Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince,” probably the most rushed and packed feeling of the books, translates that same feeling into the movie. This is my least favorite of the books, but is one of my Top 3 of the films. I really felt that Danielle Radcliffe did a fantastic job. But, the shining star of this movie, was Tom Felton. This book, and film, stopped being about “Harry Potter’s” struggle, and became about “Draco Malfoy’s” struggle to either do what he thought would save his family, or trust the wizard he had been raised to hate. Tom Felton really did his best performance in this film.

So, now to the reason that most of you will have clicked on this link: “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1.” Now, while most people were disappointed when word came out that they were going to split the final book into 2 separate films, I was excited. I knew that, while most considered it a plot to generate dollars for the “Fat Cats,” that this meant that the films would follow, more closely, the events of the final book. When previews began to appear, I became like a child in a toy store. I purchased my ticket a week in advance, as to be sure to secure a seat for what was sure to become a sold-out show.


Finally, the night came: November 19, 2010, 12:05 AM, and we were off. The film starts a bit differently than the book, but that is ok, because we get our first glimpse of “Minister of Magic, Rufus Scrimogeur,” as he was absent in the previous film. I was happy to hear that Bill Nighy would be portraying the Minister of Magic, but was disheartened after the opening scene. He seemed to be overacting a bit, and just seemed to be doing a repeat performance of “Davy Jones” from “Pirates of the Caribbean.” I was expecting “Jack Sparrow” to saunter into the scene.


Then, we get to what was the opening scene in the book, only slightly different. We see “Severus Snape” flying through the air, landing in-front of a tall, iron gate. Walking at a steady pace, he walks straight through it. In the book, he was accompanied by “Yaxley,” another Death Eater. Everything else following seems to shadow the book rather closely. Following, we are treated to 2 scenes not included in the book, but really helps to advance the character development of “Ron Weasley” and “Hermione Granger.” But, these scenes came with the price of not getting that sense of closure felt in the book during the third chapter, “The Dursley’s Departing.” But, I guess that wasn’t all that important to the development of the main plot.


When the time comes for Harry to depart from Number Four, Privet Drive, the events are very similar to that of the book, with a couple of changes. Number one would be how Harry is discovered to be the real “Harry Potter.” In the book, it is a spell, that has become a bit of a “trademark” of Harry’s, that outs Harry. But the change made flows directly into the second, major, change: the unfortunate death of “Hedwig.” In the book, she dies in a rather anti-climactic way, stuck in her cage. In the film, Harry is discovered to be the real “Harry Potter” when Hedwig, who has been released from her cage by Harry before they take-off, attacks a Death Eater who is attempting to kill Harry. She is struck with the Killing Curse, giving her a “Hero’s Exit.” This change was welcomed, as I felt that it gave “Hedwig” her “moment.”

The filmmakers decided to leave off the introduction of “Tonks’s” parents, choosing to have Harry and Hagrid land outside of The Burrow. Everything from now, until the departure of Harry, Ron, and Hermione, is very condensed, but that is fine. The only gripe I have about it is that when “Rufus Scrimogeur” appears to give Harry, Ron, and Hermione what was left to them by “Albus Dumbledore,” no mention is made of the absurdity that the Ministry of Magic took 31 days to examine Dumbledore’s belongins, thinking that he left the 3 of them items to help in the fight against “Lord Voldemort,” and not wanting the Ministry to look bad. Nor is there mention about the cover-ups by the Ministry. And, again, missing was the intense confrontation between Harry and Scrimogeur.


When they depart, the film follows the events in the book very closely, omitting a lot of the dragging traveling scenes. But, thankfully, they kept in(and honored very much) the scene in the book when Ron, who has kept the locket on for far too long, argues with Harry, and leaves them behind. Rupert Grint really did an outstanding job in this scene. Then, we stumble along a bit, until we reach the much anticipated “Godric’s Hollow” scene.




This was everything I expected it to be, right down to “Bathilda Bagshot’s” secret. When reading the book, I was curious how they could possibly make a scene in-which a snake possesses a corpse, and then does battle with Harry and Hermione. But, David Yates did a fantastic job of making this a reality. Next up, is the return of Ron. This was an excellently done scene, which included the destruction of the first Horcrux, in this book. It was beautifully shot, and the graphics were exquisite. With the only exception being the, awkward, semi-nude, make-out vision presented to Ron, of Hermione(whom he has taken a real liking to) and Harry(his, obvious, best friend), to dissuade him in destroying the Horcrux. The feeling, during this part, was of distinct discomfort, sprinkled with a few chuckles.

Everything following these events is almost directly read out of the book, leading up to the climax of the film. I was extremely happy with where, and how, they decided to end this film. I felt that the scene showing “Voldemort” destroying “Albus Dumbledore’s” sarcophagus to retrieve the “Elder Wand,” which was buried with the great wizard, was expertly done. But, the greatest moments of this film, is in the final moments of my favorite character: “Dobby the Freed House Elf.”


I won’t lie, I was a bit bummed when I read the book, when I reached the part in-which Dobby dies. Even going so far as to say that my eyes became misty, but I never imagined that this wonderful, understated character, would get the glorious treatment that he did, in his final moments on film. They kept in his speech, showing that he truly loved Harry Potter and his friends, and would do whatever he could to protect them. The speech was emotional, and wonderfully spoke by Toby Jones.


So, in conclusion, I must say: This film is probably the best one of the series, in-terms of acting, character development, and story-telling. Things could have been changed to portray characters better, such as “Scrimogeur” and “Bill Weasley.” I also wish that “Viktor Krum” would have been included. Although he only had a small part in the book, it was important. This film really feels like the “Empire Strikes Back” of the series, and leaves me excitedly anticipating the final installment. This is a great movie for, not only Potter fans, but film buffs, as well.



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Ibz
Ibz - 11/20/2010, 5:07 AM
i have to say i really did love this movie
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 11/20/2010, 5:28 AM
Jake @ Great read man...

I'm not a POTTER fan, I've yet to still see the last movie all the way through (I will tho).

This one sounds cool enough, gr8 review! :


P.s. Warnerbrothers/DC need to do a comic book series of this and stick it in the VERTIGO Universe!



Come on, how cool would that be?!? ; )
TheDarqueOne
TheDarqueOne - 11/20/2010, 6:25 AM
I am one of the many who have thought the whole series has been very good. My wife who is a rather major fan agrees. Books made into Movies always have their problems but the Story is being told pretty well.

The tone changes at the third one. But this is how the books progress with each one aimed at a slightly older audience.

Looking forward to seeing it.

Nice job.






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Eion76
Eion76 - 11/20/2010, 7:17 AM
not a bad article,I loved the movie & can't wait for part 2
YakeTheSnake
YakeTheSnake - 11/20/2010, 7:19 AM
@Xenix: I have this weird OCD sorta thing that I place the names of fictional characters into quotations. I know it's a bit annoying, and I'm going to change it. And I decided to add the "Freed House Elf" part because that was, obviously, a huge turning point in the character of Dobby.

@LEEE777: No doubt, brother. That would be way groovy. And, yeah, you should probably watch the previous one before you watch this one.

@TheDarqueOne: I definately know that movies based on books always take quite a bit of liberties. My only beef is when the studio takes out material THEY deem unnecassary, but is actually an integral part of the story.
SpiderBat209
SpiderBat209 - 11/20/2010, 7:25 AM
@LEEE777---VERTIGO has The Books of Magic by Neil Gaiman, which I think Harry Potter is a total rip-off of! Which is why sadly, we'll never see Timothy Hunter and his quest to become "the greatest magician to ever live" put to film. :(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Books_of_Magic
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 11/20/2010, 8:40 AM
Good stuff. Although I thought Azkaban was easily the best of therm! The last movie was a pile of shit. Nothing but exposition and stiff acting imo. I also liked the one in which Sirius dies, can't think of the name. Anyway, I'm seeing this 2mo with the other half who is a big fan. Me? Meh.
selinakyle
selinakyle - 11/20/2010, 8:54 AM
Saw this last night. I think the saddest part of that movie was when Dobby died. I actually like all the movies but this could probably be because i have never read the books and dont intend to. Definitely ready for the concluding movie.
YakeTheSnake
YakeTheSnake - 11/20/2010, 8:57 AM
@LEEE777: I'm going to have to definately check those out. thanks for introducing me to them.

@RorMachine: "Azkaban" really felt campy to me, I'm not sure what it was. Probably the rediculous ending where Potter is flying on his Firebolt. I thought that, considering the source material, "Half-Blood Prince" was great. The book is severely rushed, and packed with WAY TOO MUCH. I feel that, in the movie, the big reveal of who the Half-Blood Prince is was far better than the book. The book was like: Snape says, "How dare you use my own spells against me. I am the Half-Blood Prince." and turns and leaves. Very piss-poor work on Rowling's part, I thought. I had a vision of how it would be portrayed where Snape says his lines, then turns and leaves, leaving Harry staring blankly into oblivion, baffled by the anti-climactic ending he just witnessed... LOL
YakeTheSnake
YakeTheSnake - 11/20/2010, 9:01 AM
@Selina Kyle: The movies, as stand-alone films, are excellent. If you were to read the books, you would probably be a bit disappointed(as most people are of movies based on books). And no doubt, when Dobby died, SO sad. That was my favorite moment of the movie. Shot so well, having Dobby on top of that shelf, standing as an equal to Harry and his friends, wonderful. And that speech... I never thought that I would be moved by a speech from a CGI Elf. And his final moments, just wonderful.... I wanna see it again....
commanderhulk
commanderhulk - 11/20/2010, 9:54 AM
I've loved all of the Harry Potter movie, and even as a fan of the books, i enjoy the movies more.

The first two are my least favroite because they are mainly just expadition. They are still really good, but not at the level of the others. Azkaban was a great visual film, feeling very creepy but fun. Goblet of Fire was like a great action film, and I didn't mind taking stuff out of the book because they kept the important stuff. Order of the Phoenix was very good and I liked how they were able to condence it to the essitntal stuff, and never dragged. Half Blood Prince was my favroite Harry Potter film, it was just a great with incredible acting, great cinematography, and a story that got all the important stuff down, with great humor.

Deathly Hallows was just great. It matched the level of emotion that Half Blood Prince did and even surpassed it, and the quite moments between the characters (in the beginning and in the woods) were some of my favroite. The action was incredible and took all the best elements from the past films and made them better. The actors were all great and really know their characters. Like Half Blood Prince, this one has incredible cinematography and color scheme to help enhance the film. This one really does fell like Empire Strikes Back and I can't wait for Part 2.

Dobby was my favroite character and his death sequence was great (very emotional), and him dropping the shandaler on Bellatrix was great (very much like Han Solo shooting Vader in the first Star Wars) and glad Dobby got to be a hero again. Hedwig's death was an improvement on the books because in the books he dies in his cage. In this movie he dies trying to defend Harry, fighting and blocks the killing curse heading for Harry. So Hedwig went out fighting and died a hero. In the theater, both Hedwig and Dobby's heroic acts got a cheer.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 11/20/2010, 9:59 AM
Cool @ JAKE, an congrats dude, gr8 work! ; )

SPIDERBATS @ I know lol, I love 'BOOKS OF MAGIC!' :)

TheNameIsBetty
TheNameIsBetty - 11/20/2010, 10:15 AM
@Jake, Good Review man, I only disagree about Bill Nighy. I thought he was great, albeit I did not realize he was Davy Jones at first.
His performance was very emotional and powerful, and he shocked me when he first appeared
on the screen.

I have read all the books also. They HAVE left out many parts in the movies that should have been there. Actually Half-Blood Prince is one of my favorite books of the
series. I only wonder why you don't like it. I was disappointed when Dobby was left out of it. After all though, I think I like all the movies. They were great
SpiderBat209
SpiderBat209 - 11/20/2010, 11:55 AM
TFF! ;D

ComradeGrey
ComradeGrey - 11/20/2010, 12:07 PM
Your entire [frick]ing review of these MOVIES is based what you thought of the BOOKS.
Shouldn't a review of MOVIES focus on the MOVIES?
48and2
48and2 - 11/20/2010, 1:01 PM
@Comradegrey Ok wo what is the number one bitchfest on this site usually about: how the movies deviate from the source.

he put things in great context.

But I cannot read the end... lol

not a huge fan either Lee, but have always found them highly watchable.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 11/20/2010, 1:32 PM
48 @ Cool! :)
Nemeres
Nemeres - 11/20/2010, 1:52 PM
Great to hear this from a fellow books fan and someone who akcnowledges the thousand mistakes in the film series.
ADParker
ADParker - 11/20/2010, 3:20 PM
Heh! Bill Nighy's opening performance immediately brought to my mind (and my wife's) his portrayal of Viktor in the Underworld films, rather than Pirates of the Caribbean. Funny that. I guess he is just one of those actor's whose own personality tends to over shadow that of the character he is playing.

Besides that; an excellent review I thought (from one who has not read the books though.)
YakeTheSnake
YakeTheSnake - 11/20/2010, 5:21 PM
@ComradeGrey: When a movie is a stand-alone movie, then yes. This review is about movies based on books. The whole point of making a movie based upon a book is to bring to life the vivid, imaginative world created by the author. When you review the "Harry Potter" films, you can't just ignore the existence of the literature. Things wrong with the movie, in the eyes of all fans, is what was missing from the books. When I stated that Tom Felton did an excellent job in "Half-Blood Prince," I wasn't talking about the book. I didn't think that I needed to elaborate on that. But, if you can write a better review, go for it junior.

@Andrew Parker: I guess you're right, his personality will always cast a shadow upon the character he portrays. In the book, Scrimogeur has an intense argument that leads to his wand being drawn and pointed at Harry's chest, when he travels to The Burrow. I really wanted to see Bill Nighy's performance for that, because I really loved when he got angry as Davy Jones.

@Fartman: I just think that "The Half-Blood Prince" felt rushed. Almost like Rowling realized that there was still a ton of information to relay to the readers before the last book, and shoved it all in at last minute. That's just the feeling I got, all of my friends who read these didn't notice it. Maybe I'm just to critical. I haven't read it since it's release, I might have to crack it open again.

@commanderhulk: The first 2 films, and the books as well, were a bit of a drag, as far as action goes. But they were really only meant to introduce us to the characters, and to attempt to attach the reader, emotionally, to the characters. I remember, after reading the 3rd book, I told my mother that it really felt like these characters were real, and like friends of mine. That's how well written they are. My issue with "Goblet of Fire" is that it took out what was an important part of the book(Barty Crouch, Jr's story of his escape), and did away with it. Yeah, the creatures in the maze wasn't important, but it felt annoying that the only challenges in the maze seemed to be strong gusts of wind, and vines. Oh, and that rediculous tongue-tick. That made me want to punch infants.
Jimdlux
Jimdlux - 11/20/2010, 5:33 PM
I've never fallen asleep in a theater before...this was a horrible movie!!! If I paid for it in 3D, I might have killed someone!
comicbookjerk
comicbookjerk - 11/20/2010, 5:40 PM
Yeah Just seen this movie

Perhaps the most Boring 2 and a half hours of my life!

There was no real plot other than sitting in the woods

There was No excitement

No Climax

I am a Huge fan of the films but this was...The biggest waste of money and time I have ever spent..

There was barley any really cool special effect

Hardly any plot I don't know what to think.

In a way it was also soft core porn for Harry Potter fans and One can't help but think they tried to Turn this movie Into Twilight...

OMG I waited and waited and waited for something to happen....And Nothing did!

I think this movie should get Worst movie of 2010!

HUGE Harry Potter fan But this Movie was a huge pile of Nothingness!
Fracture
Fracture - 11/20/2010, 6:39 PM
@Jimdlux
Yeah, I found myself getting sleepy too. I dunno, things weren't clicking in that movie for me.
joob234
joob234 - 11/20/2010, 6:48 PM
hey anybody wanna punch arrion and jimdlux in the face???? you don't know shit about movies if you thought this movie stunk
Vital
Vital - 11/20/2010, 7:08 PM
My main gripes with this movie were 1) they were in the woods almost the entire film 2) Ron became an annoying little bitch (again) fighting with his BEST FRIEND over nothing...like usual.

I thought I was watching The Blair Witch Project until they went to Ministry of Magic lol. Then was like "ahh yes, now I remember, I'm watchin' Harry Potter". Seriously though, the location thing was a joke. Teleport to the woods, teleport out of the woods, teleport back to the woods, teleport out of the woods... seriously, it happened like 6 times lol. It kinda ends with them on the beach near the same wood trees. I was like really? Then the final scene with Voldmorte retrieving the awesome wand, was on a little island tomb surrounded by water... and more trees lol. They were obsessed with 'woods' location for this movie.

I thought the last film sucked so much ass cause nothing happened... til the end...and this film was a little better but was basically a copy of the last film with another sad ending. They dragged this part 1 out so much that I realized the real HP fans were tricked into thinking they got a 2 movie deal. What happened in this film that couldn't have seen shown within an hour or less? Do we need to see them dancing in a giant tent in the woods or just hanging out in the woods for a while? No. Waste of time. Show other characters, show something cool, that's why we go, to see cool stuff, not to see teenagers fighting over literally nothing. The only part that was sweet was when Ron destroyed the thing in the Horocrux. And apparantly, they took their sweet ass time with that scene as well, "hey I'm just gonna stare at this thing so I can see cheesy obviously not my friend ghost make out with each other cause I'm too stupid to realize it's coming from this giant demon ghost cloud". Seriously Ron, why did it take you so long to destroy it? Harry even told you not to hesitate beforehand. FAIL. Lots of stupid things like that bug the shit out of me. Ralph Fienne steals the show whenever you see him as Voldemort. He, Alan Rickman, and Tom Felton are the best performers I've seen in the movies.
CaptainPresley
CaptainPresley - 11/20/2010, 7:48 PM
Great review(s)!! Job well done! I just came from the theatre and loved "Deathly Hallows-part 1". Was it slower paced than the other films? Yes, because it's two films, it allowed most of the book to be put on film. The most close to it's book of all the films. For those who have not read the books, do yourself a favor and read them.
jshark
jshark - 11/20/2010, 9:39 PM
Just got bak from watching this myself. Gotta say it was definately the best movie I've ever seen that I knew what was going to happen. I never read the books till after I saw the first movie. I've always thought the first 2 movies were the best and most keeping with the books, until now. For those of you who thought it was boring I can understand, that's the way the book is. They are in and out of the woods the first half of the book. Things don't get exciting till later on, but all the blocks need to be stacked to get to the finale. Since the 3rd-6th films left out key things they needed to make up for it with this film inorder to fully set up the 2nd part. Things will get a lot more exciting in the second half. Plus I was happy I called the mid-part of the storyline perfectly. I was disappointed in the portrayal of the minister, but since they didn't have him in the last movie they needed to make him forgettable so his death wouldn't matter. [WannabeSite]e the previous 3 films for some of the problems in this one.

On a side note the Green Lantern trailer looked a lot better on the big screen than it did in the clip on here. The suit looked more realistic and less gaudy. I'm still not sold on the feel of it though. Still seems too slapsticky and juvenile right now, but maybe another trailer will help. I still hold interest to see it, but I haven't had that "it gives me chills" moment.
Jimdlux
Jimdlux - 11/20/2010, 10:50 PM
@joob234

Hmph! Looks like there are more of us then of you! Anyone wanna punch joob234 in the face?

I'm not saying it was a bad movie...just a boring one. It was better then Goblet of Fire and Prisoner of Azkaban...but then again, so was the dog crap on the sidewalk.
YakeTheSnake
YakeTheSnake - 11/21/2010, 2:21 AM
@Joob234: Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. A lot of people who go see these movies have not read the books, so their experience will differ greatly.

@Jimdlux/ArrionShadow: You guys are definately right, probably the most boring of the films. But this film, and book's first half(obviously), was made to set up the epic finale. The book is the same way as the film, it's a lot of sleuthing, and figuring shit out. I think fans of the book, like myself, dig it because we know what's going to happen. Trust me, you will love it(I will feel like an ass if the film fails to live up to the second half of the book).

@Chad Vital: In the book, they are in the woods A LOT. But, as stated above, it is to set up the climax. And, with the epic battle about to take place, the boring first half just makes it that much better. And, as you probably know, the reason Ron acted like a punk was because of the locket. When one of them wore it, the locket made them fill with hate. The part when he takes his time destroying it is, obviously, meant to be psychological(like the movie and first half of the book).

@CaptainPresley: Well said, King.

@jshark: Also, well worded, my good sir. I think you're definately right about Scrimogeur. I only have an issue that, if they intended to make him forgetable, why wast the money to pay a, relatively, well known actor? Kind of a waste. And I agree, the "Green Lantern" trailer looked loads better in the theater.
Vital
Vital - 11/22/2010, 11:38 PM
I forgot about Gary Oldman as Sirius Black (amazing).

I liked Prisoner and Order, those were probably the best films (films not the books).

@Jake, yeah I know, it was just annoying. Harry does everything right and Ron is a tool. He is just in the way most of the time. I thought I actually hated Hermione (I can't spell her name) cause she was really annoying in the first 4 films, but I actually liked her in this, she wasn't being retarded and a "know it all". I just don't get Ron, he's just an idiot and a goon all in one lol. "Dur look at my stupid face I make all the time dur".

And yes jshark, the Green Lantern trailer was 3x better to see on the big screen.
YakeTheSnake
YakeTheSnake - 11/23/2010, 5:43 AM
@Chad Vital: I like the "3x".... Such a random number to use, LOL.
Vital
Vital - 11/23/2010, 7:48 PM
I usually use 4x better, I'm not good at math lol.
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