Orci Says Star Trek 2 Will Not Follow The Same Ole Same Ole Sequel Formula

Orci Says Star Trek 2 Will Not Follow The Same Ole Same Ole Sequel Formula

Robert Orci talks about how "Star Trek 2" will not follow the same formula as "Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen" or "Spider-Man 2."

By jman1977 - Jul 30, 2009 09:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Star Trek
Source: io9.com

This from io9:

"First of all, we asked Orci about his statements the other day that Star Trek 2 and 3 might have a linked storyline — maybe with a cliffhanger, or a plot thread that continues from one movie into the next. Orci downplayed the speculation, saying he, writer Alex Kurtzman, director J.J. Abrams, Damon Lindelof, and producer Bryan Burk had one meeting lasting 15 minutes and they had considered for a brief moment the idea of doing the next two movies as a linked story. But it's still way too early to say anything definite. They're still in the phase of throwing ideas out there and seeing what sticks.

When we interviewed Orci and his writing partner Alex Kurtzman about Transformers 2, they pointed out that it's very common for the second movie in a series to feature the protagonist trying to quit the "hero" racket. (Think "Superman II" or "Spider-Man 2.") Transformers 2 follows that pattern, with Sam wanting to go to college and lead a normal life. So we were wondering if "Star Trek 2" would follow that formula as well — would we see Kirk thinking about quitting the Enterprise and going back to Iowa?

But Orci says the formula isn't iron-clad, and it doesn't apply to every second movie in a series. In the case of Trek, he sees the Enterprise crew as being much more committed to their mission and to doing good in the universe, so that kind of "hero no more" story wouldn't fit."

Thank god the formula is not iron clad. That is the only aspect I did not like about "Spider-Man 2." When I was watching "Spider-Man 2" and that part of the story line developed I felt gypped out of a good story. My exact thoughts were "What? Isn't it too soon for Spider-Man to not want to be Spider-Man anymore, this is only the second movie, correct?"

In "Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen" it made sense for Sam to want to go to college, as young people who graduate High School generally want to go to college if they want to amount to anything in life. This formula will absolutely not work in "Star Trek 2." The Captain of The Enterprise and his crew were not given that assignment because Star Fleet thought by the crew's second or third year everyone would want to give up on their post and go home.

Mr. Orci, please, come up with a new story. Something we have not seen. You and Alex have started a clean slate with reinventing the time wheel in the Star Trek universe. Please be inventive enough to give us the audience, something new and fresh. I know you can do it!!

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nolegs
nolegs - 7/30/2009, 10:04 AM
As long as they keep it fresh and dont sell out, this can only be a good thing.

Hello by the way IM NEW!! but have veiwed this site for a long time.

FIRST!!!
nolegs
nolegs - 7/30/2009, 10:05 AM
oooooooo how wicked would that be!! CGI brain slugs and all!!
DeathWalker
DeathWalker - 7/30/2009, 10:09 AM
No No No do something new......... I love Kahn don't get me wrong but I want to go to new places with this new crew.
nolegs
nolegs - 7/30/2009, 10:12 AM
This would be great, as its a completly different take on the story... remember that they haven't met yet in this new world of trek. so it would be nothing like Wrath of Khan in anyway
localman
localman - 7/30/2009, 10:15 AM
I agree. No old re-tread of Wrath of Kahn. Do something new that hasn't been tried before.

It was common for Gene Roddenberry to contact well known Science Fiction writers to do Star Trek stories. (I once had dinner with Nebula Grand Master Jack Williamson, who was asked to work on a version of his famous "Humaniods" for Star Trek. He was never able to work it out, but the episode "I, Mudd" was a rip-off of Williamson's concept of robots whose purpose was to "protect Man and keep Man from harm." Jack was actually pretty ticked off with Roddenberry for that one.)

Take a look at the thousands of great stories out there and adapt one to Star Trek. Give credit (and some money) to the creator, however.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 7/30/2009, 10:51 AM
nolegs @ Welcome !

gtrman @ lmao! ; D

JMAN @ Interesting news! Hmmmm, lookin' forward to it!
answer
answer - 7/30/2009, 11:18 AM
Is it just me or has there been a whole lot of new posters on this site recently? I like it, I like it alot!
Monstawain
Monstawain - 7/30/2009, 11:21 AM
I'm the biggest Star Wars nerd out there and even I agree that this movie was better. Hope the next one is at least as good.

@nolegs welcome! although a heads up, some people dont take kindly to firsting ;)

@keven LOL!
superdog
superdog - 7/30/2009, 11:21 AM
nolegs@ welcome

supermike@ your an asshole

kev@ as long as they dont put farting klingons and tribbles humbing we should be ok.
Phoenix9109
Phoenix9109 - 7/30/2009, 11:38 AM
*grumbles about how she was never welcomed...*
*ahem* In any case, I like this piece of news quite a lot. It doesn't tell us much about the second Star Trek movie, BUT it does tell us that they are definitely still planning on and working on the second one, which is great!
shibazz
shibazz - 7/30/2009, 12:34 PM
Pheonix9109 whats up girl ? How they hangin!?! I just wanted to say how you rock!

And as one of the biggest Transformers fans of all time and i even really liked Beast Wars.... i thought the last TF2 movie was lame. I really home this new Star Trek is better. the last one was amazing.
Unmasked
Unmasked - 7/30/2009, 12:35 PM
I know this is off topic, but......

How come news of a Infamous movie is not in the article section? Sony is trying to adapt Infamous into a live action movie!!!!


Please someone write this article.
Shadowelfz
Shadowelfz - 7/30/2009, 1:00 PM
Same here, Jman. They should have saved the whole 'I dont want to be spiderman anymore' thing for the third or fourth movie. It seemed out of place in the second film, though its still my favorite in the series. Doc Ock was the shizznit.

Welcome to the sight, Nolegs. Get ready for some crazy, off-topic conversations, weird but funny pics, and lots of boobs! Good times. Oh and Phoenix9109 sorry about the non-welcome. There was another phoenix poster a while back and we mighta thought you were one in the same :p Welcome to the site (belated as it is...)! Its always great to get new blood to help us pick on Supermike ;)
Inohaku
Inohaku - 7/30/2009, 1:25 PM
This is definitely good news. Looking forward to what they come up with.
Supermike
Supermike - 7/30/2009, 1:26 PM
With how stuipd and dumb the first one was who give a ratass what they do they kill star trek like superdog kill the English language
WulfComicFan
WulfComicFan - 7/30/2009, 2:18 PM
@ Supermike, you are not just an a$$hole, you are an ignorant one at that! And if you sayin Dog is killin the english language isn't calling the kettle black, then I don't know what is. Just shut your poophole and go away already!

@ Phoenix, hey, we two of a kind, no one welcomed me either. But it's okay, we know we're welcome.

I do agree that Khan was the shyte, but it's time to create new stuff, especially since we are now going down unknown roads with it it due to timeline changing! how awesome will thtis be? AWESOME!
themovieguy
themovieguy - 7/30/2009, 3:43 PM
Star Trek is another franchise that went in the wrong direction with the remake they made. I did like most of it but some of the story was so bad.
Osiris
Osiris - 7/30/2009, 3:56 PM
@supermike@ ........... you just killed the English language in that one sentence, how can you think you have any right to rip into superdog? I rather enjoy superdog's comments and i despise your inept banter, so please shut up.

welcome to CBM nolegs, btw ignore anything said by supermike or keven unless you want to get pulled into the never ending war of how big of assholes they are.

supermike is just dumb and Keven will eventually try to make fun/bitch at you for retarded reasons
Monstawain
Monstawain - 7/30/2009, 4:05 PM
@ Wulf and Pheonix, were three of a kind! Let's campaign to get the welcomes we deserve!
WulfComicFan
WulfComicFan - 7/30/2009, 5:11 PM
@ Nolegs, when I first got here, I thought Kev was a douche, but he kinda grows on ya, like a bad wart. LOL! But really he's not as bad as Osiris makes him out to be. Just stand up for yourself here.

@ Kev jus kiddin man.

@ BMA AMEN brutha!
Gose
Gose - 7/30/2009, 5:30 PM
The Next Star Trek MOVIE ... in ANIMATION !!!
trek
Shadowelfz
Shadowelfz - 7/30/2009, 9:30 PM
"With how stuipd and dumb the first one was who give a ratass what they do they kill star trek like superdog kill the English language"

-Theres all the proof you need that Supermike is a troll and nothing more. Anyone who can spout a sentence like that and say someone else is killing the English language is trying to be funny. Hes not.
Osiris
Osiris - 7/30/2009, 11:17 PM
and see their he goes making irrelevant remarks based on facts that he has to make up, for one I don't play card games, those are for fags and Keven must have intament knowlage about giving bank boners out with his Magic "homies", who the frack says homies anymore.

also anyone who thinks that having a Rogue avatar is a bad thing must be gay and doesn't enjoy looking at the sexiness that is Rogue and her voluptuous breasts, notice the nipples Kev? oh wait you didn't cause your a fag.... I'm not even going to go into the Transformers statement because that was just ridiculous.
TheGambitFreak
TheGambitFreak - 7/31/2009, 12:30 AM
supermike@ suck it asshole!!!!!
Osiris
Osiris - 7/31/2009, 9:53 AM
Touché Keven Touché....

I was really tired when I wrote that I can't believe I said fag that many times...lol

also I'm 27 so not a tween and I have 2 kids and a wife I love very much so not gay.

but the "hate spurts" are a little ridicules even if they are valid considering this is the internet and raging on people for any reason no matter how valid it is stupid because they have no way to punch you in the face to shut you up, now in real life that is a different story... oh and if it is supermike.
shibazz
shibazz - 7/31/2009, 10:37 AM
No apologies Osiris! that is truly for fags. Grow some testies and speak yer mind. Do not be led by the likes of Keven. Hot lipstick lesbians still know when things are way to gay and when something is just to Dyke-ish and so do my Butch girlfriends too. FAg FAg FAg Fag FAg.,.. see its all good.

@KEven - yer Harry Potter name is "HumpWart Fag-Bottom"

Its a comic book forum boys fer chrissakes! have some fun!

"- And all of that in one post. I pray to christ that you wake up getting raped after some creepy college frat party. "

If this kneeler can say that then no apologies.... hell just tear him a new one and laugh about it.

Love, Keven's mom

CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/31/2009, 11:37 AM
kev's actually pretty funny.

@ supermike...if you can't look at that post and see who's really killing the english language, then you really are dumber than everyone thinks.

@ phoenix and nolegs

this site isn't like most. i came here originally because it looked like everyone got along pretty well, without pooping on each other's comments. i love it here, so stick around, you will too.
Talontd
Talontd - 7/31/2009, 11:58 AM
SHIBAZZ-

"@KEven - yer Harry Potter name is "HumpWart Fag-Bottom"


Holy Sh!t, that was funny!!!
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