Here's How CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD Deals With Fallout From THE INCREDIBLE HULK & ETERNALS - SPOILERS

Here's How CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD Deals With Fallout From THE INCREDIBLE HULK & ETERNALS - SPOILERS

Captain America: Brave New World puts the spotlight on Sam Wilson but also tackles some of the dangling plot threads from The Incredible Hulk and Eternals. You can find an explanation for how right here...

By JoshWilding - Feb 14, 2025 10:02 AM EST

Captain America: Brave New World is now playing in theaters and one of the most interesting things about the movie is that it serves as a follow-up to both Eternals and The Incredible Hulk

We'll start with the latter; during the movie's opening, it's revealed that President Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross used Samuel Sterns as a scapegoat for Abomination's attack on Harlem. He's spent the past 17 years behind bars, being used by Ross to create both the pills that have saved the General's life and to create various weapons for the military. 

Sterns' heightened intelligence - which has been increased with continued Gamma exposure - also plays a significant role in Ross getting into the White House, though he goes back on his deal to free the scientist when he's made Commander in Chief. 

It's later revealed that Betty Ross has never forgiven her father for sending the military after Bruce Banner, though she does make amends with him in a brief exchange that comes after he's imprisoned for his Red Hulk rampage.

The biggest and most unexpected nod to The Incredible Hulk? The fact there's a blink-and-you'll-it scene with Harrison Ford during a news report rocking Ross' trademark 'tache! 

As for Eternals, there's no resolution for the movie's big cliffhanger and no one mentions the fact a group of aliens nearly destroyed the Earth. Tiamut has simply been dubbed "Celestial Island" and is the source of Adamantium in the MCU.

While Ross does a fair bit of bad in this movie, it's his actions that ensure the world will share the rare metal equally, hence a "Brave New World." Unsurprisingly, Wolverine doesn't get a mention and there's no sign of Project X either this early into the indestructible metal's discovery. 

Here's a full list of our Captain America: Brave New World spoiler articles in case you've missed any of them:

In Captain America: Brave New World, after meeting with newly elected U.S. President Thaddeus Ross, played by Harrison Ford in his Marvel Cinematic Universe debut, Sam Wilson finds himself in the middle of an international incident. He must discover the reason behind a nefarious global plot before the true mastermind has the entire world seeing red.

The movie stars Anthony Mackie, Danny Ramirez, Shira Haas, Xosha Roquemore, Carl Lumbly, with Giancarlo Esposito, Liv Tyler, Tim Blake Nelson, and Harrison Ford. The movie is directed by Julius Onah and produced by Kevin Feige and Nate Moore. Louis D’Esposito and Charles Newirth serve as executive producers.

"Flawed but functional, Captain America: Brave New World's many problems are largely forgotten any time Anthony Mackie and Harrison Ford electrify the screen," we said in our review"And when Red Hulk shows up, the movie reaches new heights of awesome."

Captain America: Brave New World opens in U.S. theaters on February 14, 2025.

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OptimusCrime
OptimusCrime - 2/14/2025, 10:11 AM
Horribly.
NGFB
NGFB - 2/14/2025, 10:15 AM
I really wish they would have somehow mentioned the Eternals. Even something simple like "we caught these superpowered individuals battling on satellite imagery when the Celestial emerged". Ignoring them completely is almost criminal.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 2/14/2025, 10:15 AM
can you just go back to posting rumors again
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MisterBones
MisterBones - 2/14/2025, 10:15 AM
This was barely a Cap film and more MCU: Clumsily Resolving Loose Ends The Movie.

The reshoots really showed themselves. There were like 4 different films in this thing. Damn shame.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/14/2025, 10:32 AM
@MisterBones - I'm confused because they obtained the Hulk rights from Universal either last year or before, and instead of doing a proper Incredible Hulk sequel they used it to prop up the Cap 4 reshoots like Weekend at Bernies lmao
MisterBones
MisterBones - 2/14/2025, 10:50 AM
@bobevanz - makes no sense. Outright stupidity and mismanagement on their part.

This should have been a grounded, political, espionage thriller like TWS. Keep the stakes in accordance with what has worked in your best Cap film(s). In what world would you think Hulk elements make sense in a Cap film?
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 2/14/2025, 12:07 PM
@MisterBones - One would assume to setup the Hulk film you know you WILL have full rights to around the time it is planned at first to drop. Can't START pre-prod legaly in a lot of cases UNTIL AFTER you have all rights secured and with a film taking at least a couple years to make prior to release plus all the delays due to strikes and Covid this likely started being worked on way back when the pandemic hit.
Vigor
Vigor - 2/14/2025, 12:49 PM
@MisterBones - hulk is an offshoot of the super soldier serum if I recall in the mcu. So it is the same world
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 2/14/2025, 10:20 AM
🎶🎵 La La La. Reading the spoiler articles because I don't care enough to watch the actual film La La La 🎶🎵
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 2/14/2025, 10:20 AM
The box office results for Captain UnAmerican: New World Order are not good.

Well done guys. 🙂

Happy St. Valentine's Day to everyone. 💘

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IresqU
IresqU - 2/14/2025, 1:17 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - Ummm.... Didnt it just open last night? LOL
Repian
Repian - 2/14/2025, 10:21 AM
What will be next? Johansson's return as Captain Hydra's lover, Viper?
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Come on, Disney is desperate.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 2/14/2025, 10:34 AM
@Repian - I'm sure there are words in your post, but I can't get my eyes to focus on them.
mountainman
mountainman - 2/14/2025, 11:32 AM
@Repian - I hate the idea of the OG Avenger’s coming back as multiverse evil versions, but she would have to be a better Viper than The Wolverine at least.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 2/14/2025, 10:26 AM
I didn’t think the movie was bad but it wasn’t particularly good either. Felt like marvel panicked and changed a lot because of the political climate as well as pressure to not be “Woke”, but then they still had to deal with the stuff they had originally set out to
bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/14/2025, 10:29 AM
It's funny how the MCU stans are slowly turning into the Snyder cult. "It's not that bad" "everyone is a hater" "critics are out of touch" lmao LOOK IN THE MIRROR
bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/14/2025, 10:34 AM
I just want quality movies, but you can guarantee I'll call a spade a spade. Give me my Cinemascore! Anything under a B and they're toast. I'll feel bad for Thunderbolts if that ends up being good. Dear Feige: Hire real writers and directors! You're putting hired hands in charge of 250-300m budget blockbusters. They can't [frick]ing do it
Alucard28
Alucard28 - 2/14/2025, 10:34 AM
@bobevanz - definetely
bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/14/2025, 10:40 AM
"we said in our review." I didn't know Josh spoke for everyone lol
McMurdo
McMurdo - 2/14/2025, 12:23 PM
@bobevanz - was great to see that Superman trailer on a big screen at least.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 2/14/2025, 10:30 AM
Mannnnn....That opening scene should have been Serpent Society!!! Equipped to the teeth with all of The Leaders weapons/enhancements!!! That...Would have been an awesome opening.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 2/14/2025, 10:30 AM
This felt like a Hulk movie and he should have been the main character as these are all his storylines and supporting characters. It’s like they swapped him out for Falcon and it doesn’t really work. At the very least Banner should have been a major supporting character in a movie like this.
PatientXero
PatientXero - 2/14/2025, 10:31 AM
Sounds pretty shit.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 2/14/2025, 10:32 AM
Even then though, this movie was so dry and uninspired. I kept waiting for the story to kick into gear and it never did. Just a bland nothing burger of a story.

A thriller actually has to be…..thrilling.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 2/14/2025, 10:33 AM
OT:
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Storm? Rogue?
McMurdo
McMurdo - 2/14/2025, 12:24 PM
@DarthOmega - mommy
bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/14/2025, 10:44 AM
This site is a ghost town when Marvel movies flop, I'm genuinely curious if they're bots or not
Vigor
Vigor - 2/14/2025, 11:28 AM
@bobevanz - I enjoyed this movie and would love to talk about it but the hatred of the movie is so loud I'm not sure it's worth spinning up a discussion about it
mountainman
mountainman - 2/14/2025, 11:34 AM
@Vigor - As someone that won’t be seeing it until it’s available at home, I’m interesting in hearing your perspective.

What things did you enjoy the most?
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 2/14/2025, 11:47 AM
@Vigor - it coming out after the trash called d&w really helped me appreciate this film.
Vigor
Vigor - 2/14/2025, 12:19 PM
@mountainman -

Oh jeez where do I start. Well I'm someone who enjoyed FaTWS but also was worried that the same people were doing this movie. Because there were some choices made in the show that needed some more time in the oven

I'm happy to say the movie felt a lot more tight as far as character motivations and reasoning. Examples of my worries include:
* justifying that sam can be cap without the serum
* justifying bucky not showing up
* making the action exciting when the hero is a regular man

BUCKY showed up and I squealed. And his speech perfectly encapsulated Sam as Cap. He isn't invincible but yet still he dove head first into conflicts unflinchingly. He also was highly competent shown in the aerial dogfights but also the hand to hand fights. And also how he bravely took on red hulk. With all the DEI (IM not trying to get political and only mentioning this because the movie touches on it) stuff going on with the president making it seem that a person is incompetent due to the color of their skin or if they have breasts, Sam has a moment with Harrison Ford in the final 3rd of the film where he addresses how he has to be competent and sharp and onpoint because people judge you on how you look. As a black man myself, I know all too well how you have to be "twice as good, to go half as far". I've always priced myself on excellence and Sam does too. And that's why he's inspiring. It's theme is interwoven into both the narrative and the script itself.

And remember that speech at the end of FaTWS that people hated because he sympathized with a terrorist? Sam is preachy here too but it's a lot more accepted because the "terrorist" he's defending was brain washed much in the way bucky was brain washed. It's just done better and really fits his version of Cap

Even the way he handles conflicts with villains is by trying to talk them down instead of fight them lol. And for Sam's Cap it fits!

Lastly the movie did a good job of feeling like a captain American film.
The leader is like Arnim Zola and Baron Zemo mixed together perfectly with his ability to see infinite probabilities and plan intricate plots 3 beats ahead.

Isaiah Bradley is the Bucky of the film

The new falcon reminds me of the old falcon

They have a new black widow

They even have action shots taken directly from the other capt America films. All done intentionally. They're not copying homework. This movie feels like a good hand off of the shield. I can about see a trilogy here and then Cap 7 being bucky with the shield. That's how seamless it is
Overall the film is FUN, FAST, and the script is tight. By the end i believed Sam as Cap and I enjoyed having a sequel to both FaTWS and Incredible Hulk


what did you think? @TheVisionary25
Skestra
Skestra - 2/14/2025, 10:57 AM
I thought it was a mid-tier entry in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The movie itself isn't bad; I had a good time. However, instead of taking big risks like the other Captain America films before it, they decided to play it safe. I think that's why the audience isn't responding more favorably. I agree though it doesn't help this is more a sequel to "The Incredible Hulk" than it is "The Falcon and the Winter Soldier". But, at the very least, it shows Sam Wilson is good enough to carry the shield.
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 2/14/2025, 11:04 AM
Isn’t everyone saying this movie sucks? Didn’t everyone expect it to suck? Who cares how it deals with anything..
IresqU
IresqU - 2/14/2025, 1:14 PM
@TheNewYorker - No. Not at all.
dracula
dracula - 2/14/2025, 11:04 AM
Guess that explains the advancement in technology compared to how much more grounded things were in Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 2/14/2025, 11:45 AM
@dracula - Well, yeah, that was 16/17 years ago.
dracula
dracula - 2/14/2025, 12:05 PM
@EskimoJ - yeah but the change in tech was noticeable as early as avengers
marvel72
marvel72 - 2/14/2025, 1:06 PM
I don't think many give a shit honestly.
IresqU
IresqU - 2/14/2025, 1:14 PM
@marvel72 - Just to confirm, one who doesn't 'give a shit' feels the necessity of reading article on topic they don't 'give a shit' about, then go on to to speak on behalf of the 'many'?
marvel72
marvel72 - 2/14/2025, 4:40 PM
@IresqU -

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